Joined: 10 Jan 2011, 16:04 Posts: 84
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I'm already 10 days into my challenge, so I'm going to post the first 10 right now. I'm mostly doing day game with the occasional night approach when I go out with friends. After each story, I'm writing "Learning points" when relevant. To all my aspiring PUAs, something I learned already is that you gain ENORMOUS social proof from your social circle and other people by randomly approaching. Also, I've even talked openly about my 30 day with friends, and people respect a "Man of Action." It takes BALLS to talk to women outside your social circle, so congrats to all my brothers doing this or who have already completed it.
31 Day Challenge 1. I talked to a woman about sunglasses. I got some advice about what glasses suit me, which was very helpful. We talked briefly about polarized lenses, and I brought up taking Physics in college.
2. I talked to 2 women in the elevator. My opener was “Are you visiting Miami from England” because I heard the British accent. She answered yes and said today was her last day.
3. There was a woman (HB4), going up the elevator while I was going to the gym. One elevator was closing and she pushed the button but it did not open again. I opened her with “It always does that.” She smiled but then my classmate came and interrupted before I could continue the conversation.
4. I was leaving from basketball at the undergrad campus, and I saw a brunette HB8 bending down tying her shoe. “I said the construction here is ridiculous.” She agreed and talked about how even more of the building is closed off and you have to go outside to go to the ellipticals.
5. I was at a bar when I saw a HB6 with one of my friends. I asked are you X's friend? She said yes and asked how I knew her, I said that I was her classmate, and I introduced myself with a handshake. Nothing after that.
6. I was leaving yoga and a blonde HB10 walked in setting her stuff down. I would've normally just walked out, but I knew I needed my approach for the day, so I asked “is there another class now?” She said, “yes the power-flow yoga class.” I said “oh yea, Sylvia always runs late,” while looking at the clock. I put on my shoes and left and said have a good workout.
7. I was in the elevator after doing yoga at the gym, and I walked into the elevator with one brunette HB6 standing there. I took my place at the other side of the elevator and said, “How are you?” She said good. Then I asked her “If she was a researcher here?” She said she was a grad student, and I said I was a first year medical student. I talked about how I moved from DC and how I like Miami.
8. I was at Sandbar with a bunch of my friends. Earlier in the night I had mentioned our 31 day challenge to one of them, so when I saw a three girl set with one girl wearing a tiara (HB6), a blonde HB9 and a redhead HB8, I told my friend, this is my approach for today and walked over there. I opened with “Your tiara is awesome! Is this a bachelorette party?” I was surprised how excited they were and I proceeded to talk a little. I brought my friends over too. I got some good responses especially when talk to the redhead about her career in photography. I gave some kino and she even playfully pushed me back. I started dancing with the tiara girl and the others even took some pictures of us. Throughout the night we were dancing and I was even able to integrate a random three-girl set to based on my social proof with the other girls. I tried to isolate a blonde HB6 from another group, but she turned away and even pulled her friend between her and me! LOL The interaction petered out gradually with both groups but I learned some important lessons. a) I increase my social proof when I approach girls amongst my own friends. b) People notice and respect you if you go out and are high energy and look like you’re having a good time. c) Rejection is not so bad, and it’s something that you can laugh off.
9. I was at transit lounge with some friends and I saw a four person set with 1 guy three girls. Girls were short and cute probably around HB6s. I saw them when I first walked in, but it took me about 15 minutes to get the courage to talk to them. I employed a girl-friend to be my wing-woman. We were talking about it being her fake birthday earlier in the night, so I approached with a kino turn from behind and said “We’re celebrating her quinceanera, she’s turning 15.” They were kind of cold to that and didn’t play along, but plowed through saying oh she’s developed fast for her age.” It kind of was dying but my friend saved it with some line about how I was an awesome guy. I should have continued with that, but I then said we were celebrating another week in medical school. That was awkward throwing that out there. I continued talking, we talked about me getting iced and I said it was surprisingly sweet and tasted good, but the girls disagreed. I continued starting to fluff, but nothing really stuck. Learning points: a) Come in at a better approach angle. b) Stay on topic, don’t be too quick to mention I’m in medical school. c) I realize there were a couple of shit tests that I failed they all did a cheers with their drinks but I didn’t have one, I just mentioned that I had to drive, I should have used that as a jumping point to other things instead of a sheepish defense. d) I just walked away I should have made some sort of goodbye e) I gained a lot of social proof with my social circle, even though it was a fail, people were talking about it positively the whole night and it’s just more interesting to approach a random group than stand around drinking and looking around.
10. I was waiting in line for food in the cafeteria, and I was wondering if I bought the chips would I get the 40% employee discount. So I asked the HB4 in front of me if that were the case. She seemed kind of cold, but she gave me the answer. I went on talking about how I wanted to get Tiramisu but there was a sign that you don’t get a discount. She seemed uninterested. Learning points: a) if you honestly want a question answered, ask a woman instead of a man, just to give yourself a bit of a practice. b) didn’t take her cold attitude personally, so whatevs.
interpol987
Post subject: Re: 30day Challenge-Miami style
Posted: 11 Jan 2011, 21:10
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11. I was at the gym, and I saw a girl with boxing gloves punching the boxing bag. Her technique was surprisingly good, and she looked pretty cute from a distance. I walked up to her and actually ran into a lady friend who complimented me on an exercise I was doing and even said I was ripped, I’m sure it helped my game. Said goodbye to my friend, then walked past the girl HB6 and said “You’re not too bad.” She had headphones on so I was glad I was able to project my voice loud enough. She smiled took them off and talked about how her dad taught her some punches. I began talking about how I did Muay Thai the past year, and said I came over wondering if you did that. We fluffed a bit about her being a grad student and researcher, and I talked about being a med student. It was going fairly well, I got some laughs. She even asked for my name. I then talked about how my friend and I train boxing on Tuesdays and that she should join. She said she’s only on campus Mon and Fri, but said hopefully I’ll see you again. I left and said nice meeting you. Learning points a) The boxing invite was good but too specific, it doesn’t leave room for if she actually can’t make it. I think she would’ve said yes if she wasn’t busy that day. She even told me the days she IS free! I felt like it was too forward/desperate to say oh well I can do it Friday then. Is it?? b) be more sexual, in all these encounters I haven’t been sexual c) phone number logistics if I don’t have a cell on me??
interpol987
Post subject: Re: 30day Challenge-Miami style
Posted: 12 Jan 2011, 13:58
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12. So I walked into the gym and saw a brunette Latina HB7 that I found particularly attractive for some reason. She was on the elliptical and I went about my normal routine. After being there for more than an hour I finished my routine and noticed she was still working out now, on the nautilus machines, so after some initial AA, I came up to her. Unfortunately she had her head turned adjusting the weight and she had headphones, so instead of waiting I just projected and said “You have been here forever.” After looking at me curiously, I realized she thought it was strange that I noticed, so I plowed through and said “I got here a while ago and you were here, and I finished my workout, and you’re still here. You must be a real trooper.” I got a smile after that line and she said she got off early today so she’s taking advantage of it.” She said she was a neurology resident, which took me a back. I should have said something charming like, you look too young for that. I just nodded. We talked about me being a first year med student and me doing what she’s doing later. After a lull, I left and said I’ll see you around. Learning points a) I Nike’d that shit, and I should be proud of plowing through AA b) I think I said “looking forward to it” 3 times, for some reason in convos I find a cliché and then keep on saying it c) decent eye contact this time d) SLOOOW DOOOWN. I still need to say my lines slower and more deliberately.
interpol987
Post subject: Re: 30day Challenge-Miami style
Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 19:23
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13. I saw a woman walk into the cafeteria. She was probably around 40 but still fairly attractive for her age probably a brunette HB9 10 years ago, but now HB6. After looking around for food, I decided on the burrito and then I saw her alone looking at the pre-prepared sushi, so I approached her and said “The sushi here is pretty good.” She looked at me and nodded. I thought maybe she just didn’t know what to say so I then said “it’s fairly cheap and affordable too.” Again she didn’t say anything so I walked away. I think she only spoke Spanish based on it being Miami and her appearance. I considered asking if she prefers speaking Spanish, since I can speak it, but then I started thinking about what I would say after that. Learning points: a) just ask if she prefers speaking Spanish. b) make more eye contact!
14. Opened the door into my apartment building and a cute girl’s dog started barking. I walked past and there were two others probably HB7s with dogs, I said to both of them “Just came back from a dog park.” They said “looks that way doesn’t it?” I walked into the elevator and the dog started running to me she said “he knows the routine with the elevator.” I said “I’m confusing him aren’t I?” Got a laugh from them. Learning points a) just make as many approaches as possible b) short sweet interactions are nice and you feel good about yourself during and afterwards.
15. I was waiting in line to check in to the cruise. I saw a guy in a University of Maryland shirt along with a kid and a HB7 who I had a hard time figuring out what the relation was. The guy was busy and further away from me so I said to the girl “I couldn’t help but notice that you’re from MD.” She said no she wasn’t and then I asked are you with the man ahead and she said yes, so I said he’s wearing a MD shirt, I think the convo ended there.
16. There was a group of second years sitting around at the bar, I never really spoke to them before so I approached with a line I can’t remember, it was a short sweet high energy convo. They made me try their drink, and some light kino going, which was good, I pushed the group out to the dance floor afterward.
17. We were all singing karaoke on the cruise ship, and there was a 2 black girls, one in a pink dress HB8. I thought she was really attractive, and I was getting some energy from my group singing. I didn’t have a line so I knew I should just go direct, so I told her “I just had to come over and tell you, you are one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen.” She smiled but wasn’t overly flattered. We spoke briefly about something, and she even introduced me to her friend as well. She said she was going to sing the next song, and she needed me cheering, so I asked for her name. Learning points: a) stick my approach better I stumbled with the line b) I really have no fucking idea what to say after the opener, I expected a better reaction, while she gave me a good but not great one.
18. There was a brunette HB7 standing next to the stairs. It looked like she worked at the gym, so I decided to approach with “Taking a break?” but when I approached I saw she was dancing, so I asked “What are you practicing for?” She said Zumba and that she was one of the instructors. We talked for a bit about that. I really wasn’t in the mood to talk, and I could tell she just wanted to promote the class. I honestly am interested, but I couldn’t really muster the enthusiasm while talking. Learning points a) good approach b) I noticed I DLV’d myself when talking about dance classes, this would have been a good time to talk about how I do the salsa classes on Fridays. C) think of ways to push the conversation besides asking questions, go into short relevant stories, d) find energy, somewhere?
interpol987
Post subject: Re: 30day Challenge-Miami style
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 20:13
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19. I was at a bar for one of my classmate’s birthdays, and it was karaoke night. There was a man singing, and I saw three girls watching him. I recalled seeing together, so I opened one of them HB6 with “Is that your friend singing up there.” She said yes, she seemed uninterested, so I said something about him being good. It died from there.
20. There was a girl at the bar waiting for a drink, and I opened her with a line about it taking so long. We had a short convo, overall it was nice.
21. There was a four set of girls. Earlier in the night, my friend said they looked like they were 15., so I opened the blonde HB7 with the line “My friend over there said you looked like you were 15, I think you’re at least 16.” I didn’t get a great reaction from that, I think they may not have heard my punchline, so then I asked if they were students at Miami. They said they were seniors, they asked me, and I told them I was in the medical school with my classmates. One of the girls said she was pre-med, so I talked a bit about that. I felt like the convo was going well, but when I turned for a bit to look at the stage and dance, they walked away. Oh well.
22. I went to the gym today instead of going to class, and I didn’t expect to see anybody there. Anyway, I ran into one of my classmates and we spoke for a bit, which was nice bc she’s a latin HB8. I even re-initiated the convo after walking away, which was good. I always have a difficult time judging when to leave a conversation. Downstairs, I ran into Zumba instructor again, and I asked her to spot me on the bench, we spoke briefly, she talks a lot, it’s hard to get anything in. Anyway, I left the gym and a brunette HB6, came out dressed in grey suit. She looked like she was interviewing, so I asked “Coming from an interview?” She smiled and said yes and I said she looked the part. After a brief pause I re-initiated with where else she was interviewing for Public Health. We talked about Miami and the weather, and she said she doesn’t like talking about it with her family up in Boston so as not to rub it in, then I said I talk about it with my family to rub it in. That got a good laugh. We began speaking about Miami culture and it was going well. After walking out the elevator I asked if she was going toward the garage, but she said she can go this way too. I’m pretty sure she was just walking my way bc of me and bc her route makes no sense. When we split up, she paused for a bit and said bye, I really think she was expecting me to ask for a number, and right after I left, I knew I should have bc she’s new to the area, etc. Learning points a) ASK for her NUMBER! B) that was a perfect approach and banter c) I told a good DHV story about walking into Target and people talking to me in Spanish and me being able to speak it d) I was good about guessing about her instead of just asking her a question
23. I went downstairs to catch the shuttle to the dinner banquet, and I was unsure of where it was so I asked a 2 set guy girl HB6 “Do you know when the shuttle is coming to the banquet?” They said they did not know, and then they invited me to sit and wait for them. I didn’t know what else to do so I sat down and talked with them shortly until one of my roommates came down.
24. I was dancing with some of my friends and I noticed a three set of girls dancing near me. The blonde HB8 was giving me the eye, so I started dancing with her. The others seemed to be less into it, so I tried getting them into it too. I attempted to escalate with some grinding and dancing close to her but she wasn’t reciprocating, so I stopped. Learning points: a) I feel like this happens a lot where a girl is giving me the eye and kinda beckons me to dance but when I try to escalate they’re not interested. I know I tend to wait a few minutes before trying to escalate instead of doing that immediately does my relative timidity cool things down or am I just misinterpreting the girls?
#) Twice on Saturday I flirted with older women, one a waitress and one a random woman at a bar. I was at a Mexican restaurant and I asked our waitress for menus and she said “No.” Then I said “you’re always giving me a hard time.” She then said “you’re too cute.” It was nice to hear. I wasn’t attracted to either of them, but it’s fun just playing around with people, and I think it’s good practice.
25. Handed in my assignment for class. One of the course coordinator secretaries is really hot latin HB8. I’ve never spoken with her before, so I chatted her up a bit. After turning in my assignment my friend said we were also supposed to pick up our CPR certificates, so I asked her where it was. I then said what are we supposed to do with it and she said to show your credentials. So I jokingly said yea whip it out and show off at parties. There were a couple of other lines ,which I can’t remember but it got some laughs.
interpol987
Post subject: Re: 30day Challenge-Miami style
Posted: 30 Jan 2011, 08:45
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25. There was a cute Indian HB6 waiting by the elevator. Based on the time of day and her wearing a U Medicine hoodie, I assumed she was a second year, so I began talking about her classes and the classes I’m taking. I honestly forget what I said but it was a solid conversation with some laughing.
27. I went to a Toastmasters meeting today because I wanted to improve my speaking. I’ve been doing voice lessons with an audio tape, and I felt like it would be helpful to practice with some other people who also want to improve their speech. The people there were really friendly, and I felt very welcomed there. There was a wide range of ages, but this one brunette Latina HB8, stood out to me. I was stuck talking to a nice older lady till the start of class, but I made it my goal to talk to the HB8. At the end of the meeting, she made it easy when she came over to the person sitting next to me. I cut into the conversation with “So how do you become a reviewer like you?” I really couldn’t think of anything to say to her besides talking about the club. In hindsight I realize that I was scared of showing interest in her, so I kept the conversation neutral and professional. Is it bad to come into a club and immediately hit on girls? To answer my own question a) No it’s okay, I can legitimately show interest in the girl and in the club. B) Let’s say someone called me out on it and said, “Are you coming here just for the women?” I could say, “can’t it be both?” c) Is direct okay in this, when I’m trying to enter the social circle here?
28. I walked into salsa class, and I saw three second year girls, I’ve talked with two of them shortly, but I haven’t talked to one of them. I approached with “wow there’s usually more people than this?!” They were definitely in the talkative mood, so it was easy doing a back and forth about that. The girls were practicing spins and one of them said I just like the twirling, and I said something along the lines of you’re like 6 year olds, spinning to get dizzy. This got a good laugh and some kino. It’s been a little while since I got random kino from a girl, so that was nice. The girl that I didn’t know gave me some kino later when she randomly began talking about Connect a video game device. Was that due to social proof from the first girl?
29. I was at a lounge with some friends, and the line seemed pretty long for one of the bars, so I went to the other one to get a beer. I noticed a girl sitting at one of the stools by herself so I struck up a conversation. I think I said “Waiting for a friend?” Then she said no she’s waiting for her friend to get off her shift at the bar. We talked for a bit and I asked if she minded if I sat down with her. We had a really long conversation ranging from Miami, medicine, Cuban politics, etc. I didn’t escalate and I went into the no-zone of politics because I realized she’s not that attractive, but she’s an interesting person and I enjoyed talking to her. I concentrated on practicing DHV stories while also not DLVing myself, and I think I did that fairly well. I began speaking in Spanish when I heard she was Cuban. I talked about becoming a doctor. I made reference to past trips to Dominican Republic, Peru, China etc. My number close was pretty bad, I said I should be getting back to my friends and then I said Could I have your number? I handed her my cell and she typed it in. Next time say “I enjoyed talking to you, can we meet up again?” I texted her the next day, and set up coffee 3 days from now (I'm busy the next 2 days.) I'm not too attracted to her, but she's an interesting person and this will be good date practice. Honestly, I'd like feedback, what should my communication between now and the date be? Some random texts just to keep me in her mind?
interpol987
Post subject: Re: 30day Challenge-Miami style
Posted: 01 Feb 2011, 22:22
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30. There was a woman who came in to the elevator in my apartment with her dog. I said “cute dog.” It really wasn’t, but it was something to say. She said it was a pug mix and I mentioned how one of my friends has a pug.
31. There were 6 girls at the beach playing volleyball all around HB6, 7s. My friend and I were waiting for our friends to play, so I went up to them and asked if we could play. They said yea but they were really bad. I said oh it won’t be that bad, but they were pretty horrible. I heard accents, so I guessed that they were from Germany, but I was way off, they were from Ireland. I wish I was able to get more of a conversation flow going, but for some reason it didn’t go that well. Learning points: a) strong approach b) I did a DLV when I guessed their accents then I said I’m way off. I don’t really know what to say in that situation because it was a horrible guess, maybe not say that it was a bad guess? c) I could have done some teaching like show them how to hit the ball, that would’ve been a big DHV
I'm glad I did this, but for some reason I'm pretty tired of doing this, and I don't know why. I had some success, and I felt good about the approaches. Also in general, I was happier this past month. I noticed my conversational skills have improved since the start of the month. It might be because I had a long day today, but I just feel exhausted writing about my approaches, I think in the future I'm going to continue making more approaches, we'll see if I need more motivation to make the approach besides my own drive. I noticed that I did things that I normally don't do and I was pushed out of my comfort zone. Towards the end, I noticed I wasn't pushing my comfort zone as much, but maybe that's because my comfort zone had changed, and it's now the norm to strike up random conversations.
The Asian Playboy
Post subject: Re: 30day Challenge-Miami style
Posted: 02 Feb 2011, 00:13
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Congratulations!
Now it's time to take a break. Reflect on what you've learned, but enjoy the process.
Just like working out a muscle and blasting it repeatedly to get over a plateau, now it's time to rest and recuperate in order to let your body and mind heal and grow so that you can meet your next challenge.
Again, congratulations and hope to see you in Miami for Spring Break!
Joined: 10 Jan 2011, 16:04 Posts: 84
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Thanks JT! I appreciate the words of encouragement. I've continued doing approaches since the end of the challenge. I even gathered the courage to do my first nightclub approach when I was on South Beach. I'm really looking forward to the bootcamp and I can't wait to learn from you and Gareth.
The_Jester
Post subject: Re: 30day Challenge-Miami style
Posted: 15 Jun 2011, 23:07
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Nice work dude.
I'm assuming the primary rule of your challenge was to open every set you saw for 31 days straight?
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