Is 12 weeks of fury right for me?

Hey all,
I only stumbled onto this board recently; I had never considered any sort of "bootcamp" before, but I was very intrigued about the idea of a training program especially geared for Asian American males like myself. But I have some questions to ask before I know whether and when to sign up for this.

First off, about myself: I'm 23, in the LA area, and I've had two relationships in my life, one for 2 years and one for 2 months. I read a bit of PUA material a few years ago back in college, but AA prevented me from really practising in the field. I had a few *-closes and beyond in college but they don't really count because it was mainly me being at the right place at the right time (i.e. in front of a really drunk and/or slutty girl). I feel that AA is my biggest demon.

Anyway, my questions about the 12 weeks of fury:
1. Is it appropriate for a beginner like me?
2. How much pre-program preparation do I have to do?
3. How does it work around the holiday season?
4. How much time per week do I have to devote to it? Normally I have only the weekends free. Will it consume my entire weekend, every weekend?
5. How can it be that it lasts so much longer than a bootcamp (12 weeks versus one weekend), but only costs about twice as much? Is the 12 weeks basically equivalent to three back-to-back bootcamps?

Thanks, If you could answer any of these questions it would be much appreciated.

Hey Rozinante, I have to get back to teaching and can't answer all your questions right this very second, but just to give you and everybody else an update...

FIRST FURY STUDENT FULL CLOSED LAST NIGHT!

Booyah!

That's literally TWO bootcamps in a row where we've had students fully romantically and sexually connect.

And this Fury student got his first kiss at the age of 22 and just learned about the Game only two months.

If we can get results like that THIS fast, can you imagine what we could do with you or ANYBODY else in general?

Damn I'm good.

Oh and the reason why it's not as expensive as it could be is:
1) This is the pilot program which we've just started. Trust me, the price is definitely going to go up in the future. But for right now, all those lucky students who decide to sign up, get the benefit of a reduced price while we work out the kinks that naturally comes with creating a new, customized training program.

2) In order to free up my time, I don't teach all the sessions. I teach the majority of the starter bootcamp portion and during your monthly subscription coaching, we check in once every other week. The other sessions are handled by my coaching staff who will be concentrating on night game, day game, multiple relationship management, phone game, social circle game, etc. etc. etc.

Yeah, I'm aware that it's important to overcome AA before bootcamp in order to maximize its effectiveness, and I know that the pre-bootcamp assignments are there to help address AA. I was curious as to how long it takes to get AA under control to a sufficient extent for a bootcamp or 12 weeks of fury session.

If you have AA, just take 3 shots of grey goose to get loose.

That shit is expensive. Just go to Trader Joes and buy a fifth of vodka for 7 bucks. Your AA is cured.

I'm actually serious when I say that.

Approach Anxiety is a term that the community created. It's not real. They gave meaning to a word and now you're all fucked up by it. Fuck Approach Anxiety. Just say, "I don't have approach anxiety." Problem solved.

Hey all,
I am the student who got the f close at the 12 Weeks of Fury.

Background:
A little background about me: I used to be the engineer type, half fob-half ABC (no identity), little social skills, timid as hell. I really couldn't let my guard down or even be a better person.
I came into the game after realizing, "Oh shit man, I'm going to die alone".

After my first opener (opened a 3 set of Asian girls at Life Plaza) (~August 1) - my whole world changed. I took a VA bootcamp, learned a bit, went out gaming solo or with Brian from VH1's PUA S2. My game now is much better than before.

To reclarify, actually I got my first kiss at 23. I just turned 24 3 weeks ago. I am a super late bloomer and still catching up. Bit embarrassed, yes?

Bootcamp:
ABC - 10/10 so far
I love the bootcamp. They personalize it for you. They work on your strengths and weaknesses. They actually take the time for you to teach by example and have actual female models see your response (thanks Sarah!) JT's style is well known, he'll make you reach your goals. Gareth is funny and Ozz is really laid back. Gareth really wants you to learn and makes it his personal goal to help you.

VA
I took a bootcamp with VA and Matador was my teacher. I paid a lot more for VA's bootcamp then 12 weeks of fury. If I could go back in time, I would have signed up for JT first.

- Synthetic aka "I dressed like the waiter and I still got laid" - BWAHHAHAHHA JT

Let me know if you want my e-mail or FB since you're in the LA area.

(Dead tired from 3 day bootcamp and Fri/Sat/Sun upcoming).

Synthetic,

Congratulations man. It is truly awesome to hear about a fellow Asian American brother who was able to conquer his mental barriers. What's even better is knowing that you got this sorted out now, while you're 23, rather than waiting as long as I did (when I turned 30).

Again, great job out there, and I look forward to reading about your journey.

-William

That's very inspiring, synthetic. Anyway I sent you a pm. I look forward to hearing from you.

Here I am! The weary traveller and tired coach of our brand new 12 weeks of fury program!

Ugh, I slept until 4pm today just trying to recoup from all the excitement of the bootcamps we've been doing and am ready to get back at it!

Roz, let me talk a little about the 12 weeks.

First off, a bootcamp is definitely the way to go. The bootcamp gives a great, well-rounded view of the entire experience of the Pick Up from beginning to end using both classroom sessions and in-field sessions to develop the skills necessary for a successful pickup. This is the absolute best way to get a jump on this portion of your life.

What the 12 Week offers is the extended attention necessary to HONE these skills that you've developed and to work on the trouble spots (or sticking points) that you have encountered. My mission, as the 12 Week Head Coach, is just what David said, it's to get you to learn as much about pickup and becoming a better person as possible, so that you can get the most out of EVERY situation you encounter.

The Pre-Program stuff is just like all the other pre-bootcamp homework. Basic, but thorough. It will take work, but nothing incredibly taxing.

Since we haven't actually executed the program during the holidays yet, nobody really knows, but the advantage of the program is that the personal attention is catered in just that way, personally. We're not a huge corporation with big strict attendance policies; we can make anything work for anybody. That's our job

After the three-day bootcamp, there is a 2-1-2 training session schedule. It's explained very thoroughly on the event description page at http://12weeksoffury.eventbrite.com/ but the short answer is: You can devote as much time as you want to the program. This is YOUR life and YOUR desire to improve that we're working with. If you want to make the time to improve, then we can work with it Keep in mind that Pickup is a life skill, not just a skill for the weekend. In order for me to get as good as I am, I was going out about 6 nights a week for about a year. That's how I got so good.

But JT is right. The reason this is so cheap is because it's our inaugural voyage of the program. We've already found a bunch of things that we need to change and rearrange, and keeping the price down is our way of saying thank you to the students for working with us. They, however, (as you've seen) are super stoked with the program and spots will doubtless be filling up soon!

Hope this answers your questions and let's talk soon!


-G

So, even though the low prices are only temporary, it looks like I can still book months in advance at the current price, right? I'd like to get at least a month to work on the pre-bootcamp assignments. Will the current prices stay constant for the rest of the month? I'm just a grad student right now and my bank account is a little low since I've been loaning my parents money lately. I've enough to make a purchase this month if absolutely necessary, but I'd rather wait to at least next month.

Also, with regards to the 1-2-1-2 sessions, are they only held on friday/saturday/sunday nights, or do we get to pick?

Sorry about all the little questions, I'm just trying to get as much info as possible so I can see how I can make this jive with my schedule and finances.

As far as I know, you can sign up for the first month of the program beginning in whichever month you'd like, however it may be a better value to take it sooner rather than later, as we might increase the price of the program OR decrease the services. Right now, having 6 training sessions a month is really cumbersome and the price isn't all that encouraging to us, but we really want to find a way to effectively keep people on track, so we'd rather start with less money for you so that people can get the chance to test out the services. I've already got 4 bootcamps and 8 personal training sessions for this month alone and it's crazzzzzy. Luckily, I love doing it!

The truth of the matter, Roz, is that I can't tell you how long the prices will stay constant. We don't know. This is as new to us as it is to you! So, I'd get yourself set up as soon as possible. I wish I had a better answer, but the most solid fact I can give you is that prices aren't going down in the future.

As for the 2121; Sessions with coaches can be scheduled during any time of the week, but the sessions with APB should be scheduled for the weekend to optimize the sarging.

I hope this helps