Joined: 11 Aug 2009, 15:56 Posts: 3
Bootcamp Graduate: Yes (BC: July 09, Los Angeles)
What it do fellow alumni!! This bootcamp review is long overdue, but for good cause (after the bootcamp, I ended up "resurrecting" an old flame of mine, a girl I tried to date a year ago but she kept flaking on me . . . . but I'll get into that later!!). I signed up for the ABCs bootcamp because I needed to take my game to the next level . . . . . I had done okay on my own in the past, but with very inconsistent results (as explained above, I had difficulties with girls flaking on me). I'm Chinese, tall, and athletically built, so you WOULD THINK I'm naturally good at this . . . . HA, even Claire rated me as a "solid 8" when she was asked by JT to rate my physical looks! But the thing is, I grew into this after having a late puberty, growing up skinny, wearing coke-bottle glasses, braces, bowl-cut hairstyle, haha, you name it!! So although I have been successful in changing my "avatar" long before I ever took this bootcamp, deep down I still have that "nice guy, nerdy, easily falls on the friend ladder" MENTALITY . . . . this MENTALITY is what needs to CHANGE!!!!! So let's get on with it . . . . .
My coaches for this bootcamp were JT, Oz, and Gareth, with the lovely Claire assisting us on the exercises. Each of the three coaches is a master in his own right, and each contributed something unique to the experience. Briefly, Gareth is adept at calibrating his energy level according to the situation, and is the resident guru on mastering voice control and inflection (must be that singing experience!). Oz really impressed me with his knowledge of proper kino and body language positioning, and is an expert at “fine-tuning” the lagging areas in your game. And, of course, JT is the man . . . . he shows you how to “put it all together” into a workable system that will never fail out in the field.
Our first day of lecture focused on opening and pumping up the target’s buying temperature. For our first night out, we were to use indirect openers . . . . . I’ve never been a big fan of indirect openers, but I understood that in order to get the most out of this bootcamp, I needed to wipe my slate clean and start from square one. I decided to use an indirect opener (from my own life experience) that I had previously used the weekend before . . . . I was planning a good friend’s engagement party, and I had previously asked a girl, “Hey, what’s a good ice-breaker game to play at a party?” Haha, little did I know that Gareth would help me take this indirect opener to a whole new level later that night . . . . .
Our first night in the field was at the Edison, one of my favorite spots in downtown Los Angeles. My fellow bootcampers and I gradually acclimated ourselves to the environment, and then it was on!
To get myself in the proper mindset, I decided to warm up by opening a three-set hovering around the bar. One of the girls had a camera and was about to take a picture of the other two. I walked up to the girl with the camera right before she was going to take the picture:
Me: “You’re doing that all wrong.” Camera girl: “huh?” Me: (making a gesture as if I’m taking a picture) “Your angle and distance from your friends is completely off . . . . it’s a good thing I came over here to save you from taking a horrible photo of your friends!!” (Camera girl then busts out laughing . . . . I don’t think Friends 1 and 2 heard me, so they were still sizing me up) Camera girl: “Oh, so you’re here to help us out?? Will you take a picture of me and my friends?” Me: (hesitantly) I won’t take your guys’ picture just because you asked nicely (speaking to all three girls) . . . . my services are in high demand, it’s gonna cost you . . . . (with a very mischievous look on my face) Friend1: “Hey, what’s your name?” (at this point, we all exchange names) Me: “Hey, you seem like really cool girls . . . . .tell ya what, I’ll take that pic for you, and all you have to do in return (squeezing in between the two hot friends and putting my arms around them) is take a pic with me!
Camera girl then takes a pic of me and my two new friends, and a promise is a promise, so then I take a pic of the three girls together. They ask me what I’m up to that night, and I tell them that I’m there for my friend’s going away party to Australia (which was true, JT was leaving for his Sydney bootcamp in a week, and JT advised us to use this as our response the entire weekend). After some light conversation about whether they had ever gone “down under,” I tell them that I would catch up with them later, as I could tell in the corner of my eye that the coaches and three other bootcampers were gathering together. Time for some indirect openers!!!
Here’s where Gareth really came through. I told him my indirect opener . . . he didn’t like it that much, although he got the general gist of the opener. He suggested I use something more along the lines of asking the girl how to get two groups of people, who DESPISE each other, to hang out together in the same room. That’s when he had a stroke of genius, and told me his plan. We then proceeded towards the general area of a seated three-set who were just finishing a meal . . . . .
(Gareth walks angrily towards the open area in front of the three set. I follow him, looking like I’m trying to catch up to him to calm him down) Gareth: “Dude, I can’t believe your fuckin friends!!” Me: (exasperated look on my face) What??!!! (we immediately get the attention of the three-set) Gareth: (holding up his hands) No, don’t even try that! I’m out of here! (then storms off, leaving me behind . . . . . Haha, now the three girls are staring intently at me, wondering what I’m going to do next . . . . ) Me: (I nonchalantly look over my shoulder, and act as if I have just noticed the three set sitting there for the first time . . . . I make eye contact with them, and play up the look of exasperation on my face) “Hey, I could REALLY use your guy’s opinion on something (All three girls nod their heads) SeatedGirl1: “Sure, what’s going on with you and your buddy?” Me: “Have you ever had to get two different groups of friends, who ABSOLUTELY DESPISE each other, to hang out together in the same spot?”
All three girls say yes, and I explain to them how there was drama between my group of friends and Gareth’s group of friends. Because the girls were already initially invested into the interaction I was having with Gareth when he stormed off, they were eager to share their insights into how I could mend the “tension” between the two groups. Haha, Gareth, you da man!!! The lesson I learned is that indirect openers can be made much more effective if you SITUATIONALLY SET IT UP.
Haha, at one point in the night, Gareth told me to go talk to two petite Asian girls. I talked with them for about 30 minutes, before I moved on to other sets. One of the girls was really into me, so it was clear that I would at least get a number before I left. Before we left the club, Gareth made it a point that I number close her. He and I spotted them later facing the bar, and I went up behind them and said, “Hey, let me get your number before I leave.” The two girls turned around . . . . . IT WAS A DIFFERENT TWO-SET OF ASIAN GIRLS!!!!! Hahaha, nevertheless, we started talking for a little bit. Although I didn’t get their numbers, I did find the original Asian two-set, and number closed . . . . .
Back at headquarters, we went over the previous night. Day 2 was when we really started to get into it. We went over how to approach seated sets, compliance testing, body language positioning, BT spikes. Oz has a real keen eye for critiquing the bootcampers’ mistakes with kino and BLP . . . . . he did a fine job in pointing out those areas that I needed to work on (i.e. sometimes I would lean in too far when talking to a girl, or my shoulder turn wasn’t firm enough, or I didn’t maintain proper distance).
Also, we discussed in great detail probably the most important part of game . . . . STORYTELLING. JT and Gareth are amazing . . . . they took our stories (which sounded bland coming out of our mouths) and infused them with all the right EMOTIONS to invoke the proper responses out of the target audience.
We then delved into my preferred approach theory, Direct Game. Although I naturally gravitate towards direct game, JT broke it down for me in a way that made me truly understand its strengths and weaknesses. Combining everything together correctly (voice tonality, facial expression, energy level) is crucial to pulling off a successful direct opener. And it’s amazing to see JT pull off a simple “Hi, I’m JT!”
Although JT had originally planned for us to go to another spot that night, we ended up going to the Kress because his good friend Matador was there. Haha, there were so many PUAs at the Kress that night!!! Which was perfect, because it forced me and my fellow bootcampers to up our game even more. Night 2 was all about GOING DIRECT. We settle down at our table and start getting the liquor flowing. JT and Oz immediately spot a seated five-set of Latinas in a nearby cabana. They tell me “Go! Seated five set.” I remember JT had taught me that the quickest route from point A to B is a STRAIGHT LINE . . . . and I stay true to that, and head directly for the girls’ cabana. This works out great, it is obvious that I have an interest in them, and all five girls turn their heads to look at me as I come up to their Cabana. I maintain VERY STRONG BLP, walk casually up to the edge of their table, and stand there, with my feet set wide and in an authoritative position. I have a welcoming grin on my face (not toothy) and I slowly make eye contact with EACH OF THE FIVE GIRLS IN TURN, sizing them up, without saying a word. Just as I’m about to say something, the girl closest to me says in a very friendly and flirtatious tone, “Hi, how are you?” LOL!!! This set truly taught me the value of BLP and physical presence . . . . you can use your BODY AS AN OPENER!! I reply that I’m doing fantastic, and ask them what their story is that night. One of the girls there is from Utah, and her four friends are showing her a good time in LA. I tell them that my friend JT is moving to Australia, and in a very authoritative, but not demanding tone, I tell them to come over to my table to wish him a safe trip and celebrate with us. Haha, so I pull ALL FIVE girls from their cabana and have them sit with us at our table, and my fellow bootcampers are having a blast talking up this newly found set.
Later into the night, I can tell Utah girl is feeling me. She tells me that she’s going to go down to the floor below to go dancing with her girls, but will be back. Although I usually would have just gone with her to go dancing, I decide to stay to continue developing my direct game on more sets. A couple minutes later, I see a brunette MILF with HUGE tits approaching me, looking around as if she’s trying to find a friend, or trying to find trouble!
Me: (casually over shoulder as she’s walking by) You have a very mischievous look on your face. MILF: Is it that obvious?? Me: Yup MILF: (laughing) Yeah, I’m looking to get into some trouble tonight. Me: Illegal or legal? MILF: (laughing) Depends . . . . . I want to get on top of this go-go dancer platform and start dancing. Me: Sure, that’s fine, but ONLY IF YOU’RE GOOD. MILF: You bet your ass I am!!!
I then start teasing her about how she would be no competition for me on the dance floor. Using the same “my friend is going to Australia” bit, I eventually pull her to our table, and sit her down. Haha, I can see Matador and Cosmo from VH1’s Pick Up Artist nearby. Suddenly, an obvious PUA approaches us as we’re sitting down and opens, “You two definitely look like you would . . . . (long drawn out pause) . . . . have a cigarette on you.” MILF has a “wtf” look on her face and I calmly reply “Nah, we don’t. Sorry bro.” He introduces himself, and I play along without giving off any jealously or neediness. I suggest that he ask the guys at the table across the way, and he leaves without putting up much of a fight.
Nearby, Dennis Rodman is at a cabana with a camera crew, filming his new reality show. By this point, I had already been doing a lot of kino, and we were sitting side by side touching each other. MILF says she wants to go over to the cabana and bite Dennis Rodman’s ear off. I reply:
Me: “Wow, you weren’t kidding when you said you wanted to get into trouble tonight!” MILF: “Yeah, all kinds of trouble!!” Me: (lightly squeezing her knee) Really?? ALL kinds of trouble, eh?? (looking at her with bedroom eyes) MILF: (reciprocating the same look) Yeah . . . . . .
And then I go in for the kiss close. Score.
Haha, after some time goes by, I notice Gareth and JT nearby. At some point, I’m talking with them, and they’re telling me I can f-close this MILF. I sheepishly reply that I don’t have any condoms on me. Without missing a beat, Gareth hands me some condoms and tells me to go do my thing.
I’m back hanging out with MILF . . . . . and Utah girl comes back from the dance floor!!!! My natural reaction . . . . . I introduce Utah girl to MILF. Utah girl seems a little jealous. MILF starts talking shit about Utah girl in my ear, as MILF’s guy friend talks to Utah girl. MILF is saying how much better her legs are than Utah’s legs. In the end, MILF is already into me, it’s a done deal, and I let Utah girl walk away with her friends. Arggghh!!! Looking back, I should have tried harder to merge them together. I should have called MILF out. I should have brought Utah over and said, “Hey Utah, MILF says she has better legs than you, whaddya think of that??” Haha.
Okay, this field report is turning out longer than expected. In the end, I didn’t f-close MILF that night, but did set up a future date. I’ll complete Day 3/ Night 3 and Conclusion after I take care of some clients right now.
Post subject: Re: JULY 2009 LA BOOTCAMP FR
Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 04:32
Joined: 09 Jun 2009, 17:48 Posts: 870 Location: Los Angeles, CA
Hey, great job! Awesome report. You were killing it that weekend and i know you're going to make huge steps. Great meeting you and I hope we'll get to work it again soon!
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Joined: 11 Aug 2009, 15:56 Posts: 3
Bootcamp Graduate: Yes (BC: July 09, Los Angeles)
Ahhh, I was feelin pretty good with my performance from the night before . . . . Oz and Gareth had really fine-tuned my BLP, and it had proven useful the entire night. The SCORES of other PUAs at the Kress had really pushed me and my fellow bootcampers to our limits. There was one point during that night when I approached a girl who must have been friends with one of those PUAs, and then that PUA called me out in front of her and said, “Hey, he’s a PUA.” I looked at the two of them and calmly replied, “Huh, a PUA?? You mean a Piece Uv Ass??” I actually got a laugh out of both of them, and befriended both.
It was befitting that we had encountered so many PUAs and AMOGs on Night 2, because Day 3 was all about AMOG defense, and approaching girls were that were already with other guys. Haha, this was one of my favorite parts of the bootcamp . . . . for one exercise, we had to approach Claire while she was talking to JT . . . . not an easy task!!! JT is CONFIDENCE PERSONIFIED . . . . during this exercise, he deflected our oncoming approaches, all without ever appearing needy or jealous to Claire, and without ever escalating the tension (haha, we’re pick-up artists, not martial artists!!). The other bootcampers and I kept approaching JT and Claire in turn, and at one point Oz an Gareth just let us loose, and we all approached JT and Claire at the same time . . . . . f*#kin hilarious!!!
To complete our training, we went over various kiss close tactics, proper logistics planning, dealing with the target’s girlfriends, and dealing with Last Minute Resistance. As I looked over at my fellow bootcampers, I could tell that we were all soaking it in like sponges, and we had all made significant progress since day 1. These last few lessons really instilled in us the right kind of mindset that you should have when you go out . . . . i.e. YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO SUCCEED. YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO GET LAID THAT NIGHT (ha, always carry a condom on me now after that experience from Night 2!).
I am in high spirits when I roll up to our Night 3 spot, Cinespace. Mission: AMOG my fellow bootcampers, while successfully defending off their AMOGing of me!! Sunday night at Cinespace is more of a goth, rocker crowd . . . . . a good change of pace for us. Plus, there were live bands playing throughout the night, so this gave me something to talk about situationally.
I use the standard “JT is moving to Australia” bit again (haha, JT should always be going to Australia . . . . this “reason for going out” did not fail once the entire weekend).
The place is still getting warmed up at 10:30. At that point, we weren’t supposed to AMOG each other, but just acclimated to the scene. I’m sitting down with Oz in one of the lounges, and he tells me to open the cute Japanese girl with big tits sitting a few feet away from me. I notice that she is texting on her cell phone. I scoot up next to her:
Me: “What?!! Are you drunk texting already!!! It’s only 10:30, it’s WAY TOO EARLY for you to be drunk texting your booty call!” BigTits: (smiling) Haha, no!! I’m just texting my friends to see if they’re here yet . . . . Me: That’s not cool that your friends haven’t shown up yet, leaving you here all alone. . . . . Alright, I’m going to do my good deed for the day . . . . . I’m going to keep you company. BigTits: (smiling, then shy pause) What are you here for??
I use the standard “JT is moving to Australia” bit again (haha, JT should always be going to Australia . . . . this “reason for going out” did not fail once the entire weekend). After establishing some comfort with her and getting small talk out of the way, her friends eventually arrive, and let her know via text. She tells me that she’s going to go find her friends, but that she’ll see me later in the night. Knowing that I have some serious AMOGing to do, I let her go do her thing.
At this point, I see that one of my fellow bootcampers is well into a set, two girls seated down just to me left. I go talk to Oz and Gareth briefly to see how they’re doing. Then all of a sudden, this obvious PUA (random guy in the club) approaches my fellow bootcamper, and starts AMOGing him by doing magic tricks for the girls! I look at Oz and Gareth, and they don’t even have to say a word . . . . . this was the exact kind of situation that our Day 3 lecture had prepared me for. I come around from the right so that the Magician PUA doesn’t see me, and then I ambush him by saying, “Oh wow!!! That is so cool bro!!! How do you do that magic trick, bro!!! You gotta teach me!!!” Haha, the Magician PUA is flabbergasted as I keep on distracting him from his intended targets . . . . I just keep on asking him questions non-stop, and in the corner of my eye I can see my fellow bootcamper giving me a nod of recognition.
Haha, it felt so much more rewarding to HELP OUT a fellow bootcamper, rather than AMOG him. Pick-up is definitely something that you should not be going at alone. My fellow bootcamper then later winged me as we gamed another set, this time two cute Persian girls. Point is, this “game” is definitely not a competition . . . . it’s a brotherhood. I think the other bootcamper and I forgot to AMOG each other the rest of the night . . . . we were having too much fun helping each other out!!
At the end of night 3, we all met up at a nearby diner to conclude our bootcamp. As I looked around at the faces of my three fellow bootcampers, I could not recognize them . . . . they were changed men!! One of the guys, who couldn’t crack a smile to save his life (haha, you know who you are!!!) was beaming and in high spirits.
As we were savoring the moment, I saw JT get up from the table to talk to a seated SEVEN set of some smoking-hot girls. Watching him effortlessly engage the girl who was closest to him was truly motivating . Later, JT dared me to pick up my plate of eggs, hash browns and bacon, and approach two seated girls nearby and ask them if I could join them. Before this bootcamp, I would never have DARED do that in a crowded restaurant like the one we were sitting at. By JT reassured me and told me, “Go make their night better.” With a newfound confidence after the three prior days of going out, I calmly picked up my plate and approached the seated two set, and asked if I could join them for a bit. Without hesitation, they asked me to sit down, and I coolly started to engage them, and asked them how their night had been. As we began to engage in conversation, one of the girls felt the need to point out to me that they had NEVER had a guy approach them like that in a crowded restaurant, and she found it very “refreshing” and was quite impressed by me. From there, it was easy for me to launch in to some material about how I wasn’t from Los Angeles, and was naturally unpretentious and laid-back due to my upbringing in Northern California. The conversation seemed to launch from there as they told me that they were from the South! We engaged in more small talk, and after number-closing them, I told them I had to get back to my friends. Before I left, the girls told me that they were SO GLAD that I had approached them, because I was the only decent guy they had met after a night of clubbing . . . Ha!!!
When I sat back down next to JT, and saw the look of approval in his eyes, I think I had gained a better understanding of pick-up . . . . . this IS NOT about manipulating girls in any sense of the word . . . . this is about MAKING THEIR EXPERIENCE IN LIFE BETTER. As JT had put so well during our Day 3 lecture, “Leave them better than you found them.”
Post subject: Re: JULY 2009 LA BOOTCAMP FR
Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 18:11
Joined: 24 Jun 2008, 13:24 Posts: 851 Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Los Angeles, June 2008)
Awesome field report man, I’m glad you got to become akin with the ABC’s crew, I was personally groomed and taught by JT and Gareth is one of my best wings out there.
I definitely enjoyed the section regarding the MILF, I can definitely tell you had a shit ton of fun throughout the entire bootcamp just from your verbiage and that it was definitely a trip like no other out of the ordinary from your day to day life.
I think you made some very substantial progress, being able to go from not approaching women period to getting kisses and phone #’s and even hoping to get the same night lay, that is a phenomenal step forward.
Be sure to keep active on the boards and to keep actively going out, it’s the only way you’ll get better!
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