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 Post subject: Modifications/Follow-Ups To APB Lines
PostPosted: 04 Aug 2010, 00:33 
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Hi Guys:

I was just wondering what are the possible responses a girl can have and what your next step is after you say one of the following:

Scenario 1:

HB: “I have a BF.”
PUA: “So how long have you had that problem”?
HB: ??
PUA: ???

Scenario 2:

PUA: “Has anyone told you how beautiful MY eyes are?”
HB: ??
PUA: ???

Example solution: One of my favourite things to do at some point in the interaction is what I call “hair kino”. Basically I would run my fingers through her hair, pretend to straighten it up, and/or pretend to remove some non-existent fluff/dirt ect from her hair.

This weekend in the Starcraft Boot Camp --- I figured I throw something different in by saying “Has anyone told you how beautiful MY HAIR is ?” since I don’t like “Has anyone told you how beautiful MY EYES are?” because I am not certain what her responses could be and how to proceed AFTER.

I drew mental blank right after the “Has anyone told you how beautiful MY HAIR is ?” and I was afraid what her response might be so I just grabbed her by the back of her head and proceeded to kiss her since I sensed she was ready and my hand was already at her hair at the base of her neck anyways.

It worked out good but the question is what are her possible responses to scenario 1 and 2 are and what do you say/do afterwards??


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 Post subject: Re: Modifications/Follow-Ups To APB Lines
PostPosted: 04 Aug 2010, 02:57 
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mymeowcat wrote:
Scenario 1:

HB: “I have a BF.”
PUA: “So how long have you had that problem”?
HB: ??
PUA: ???


From my experience, she usually just laughs. If she does laugh, go back to the B-phase (if you aren't on B already) and continue to BT spike until you think she is ready for the C-phase. If she doesn't laugh, move on.

mymeowcat wrote:
Scenario 2:

PUA: “Has anyone told you how beautiful MY eyes are?”
HB: ??
PUA: ???


Same thing. If she laughs or shit tests right away, continue BT spiking. Hell, she shit tested you. At least you got a reaction. Ignore the shit test and try to bring up her mood. If she doesn't laugh and stays silent and/or chews you out, leave her.

This was my experience in a similar situation from the bootcamp. I approached a 2-set (1 blonde, 1 brunette). "You ladies are FUCKING gorgeous! I just had to say hi." The blonde girl had a positive reaction. The brunette girl did not and she gave me a disgusted look. I looked at her and told her, "You look so friendly! But you also look so bored! Tell me what's wrong!"

She immediately says, "Everyone here is ugly." And looks away.

Of course in my mind I'm thinking, what the fuck is wrong with this bitch? Is she referring to me?! OH HELL NO. I'm a hot piece of ass! I'll show her! So I go back to the B-phase and BT spike the shit out of this bitch. I do my thang and she laughs so hard. She even tries to control herself but she can't. By looking at her facial expressions I knew she was enjoying herself and she no longer wanted to leave. I then included the blonde girl back into the mix and we ALL have fun! Remember... YOU bring the fun. If she refuses to have fun with you, leave her. Give yourself that mentality that you're a man of high value and if she doesn't want what you got, she is one crazy bitch.

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Example solution: One of my favourite things to do at some point in the interaction is what I call “hair kino”. Basically I would run my fingers through her hair, pretend to straighten it up, and/or pretend to remove some non-existent fluff/dirt ect from her hair.

This weekend in the Starcraft Boot Camp --- I figured I throw something different in by saying “Has anyone told you how beautiful MY HAIR is ?” since I don’t like “Has anyone told you how beautiful MY EYES are?” because I am not certain what her responses could be and how to proceed AFTER.

I drew mental blank right after the “Has anyone told you how beautiful MY HAIR is ?” and I was afraid what her response might be so I just grabbed her by the back of her head and proceeded to kiss her since I sensed she was ready and my hand was already at her hair at the base of her neck anyways.


How sure are you that she was ready? Sounds a little to me like you jumped the gun with the kiss. Just because you go direct on her and if, for instance, gives you a positive reaction, doesn't necessarily mean she wants to kiss you right away. You need to GAME her. USE sexual compliance before going for the kiss. You grabbed her hair and pulled her into you. She wasn't really in any position to pull away since your hand was forcing her head to come into your face. Then again, it is sort of a cave man maneuver, I suppose... But I personally don't like it.


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 Post subject: Re: Modifications/Follow-Ups To APB Lines
PostPosted: 04 Aug 2010, 15:53 
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I like how you saved the set with the bitchy brunette. Shows good frame and dominance and that a set isn`t lost after a bad initial reaction from one person :) Heroic!

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How sure are you that she was ready? Sounds a little to me like you jumped the gun with the kiss. Just because you go direct on her and if, for instance, gives you a positive reaction, doesn't necessarily mean she wants to kiss you right away. You need to GAME her. USE sexual compliance before going for the kiss. You grabbed her hair and pulled her into you. She wasn't really in any position to pull away since your hand was forcing her head to come into your face. Then again, it is sort of a cave man maneuver, I suppose... But I personally don't like it.


Yeah --- I knew she was ready. I met her at the bar while getting a drink and after a few minutes i can see we were in the C-Phase since they (women who are 30ish or over) start asking really personal questions like:

1) If you have kids. I find by my experience that single moms like to tell you they have kid(s) just to see if you are OK with it and if she should proceed.
2) Where do you live AND if your house is paid for.
3) What your job is and if it stacks up to her job (she was a lawyer).

Another question I find some women asking are things like what year you graduated college(university) and then do the math to determine your age etc. since they do not seem to want to ask directly.

It is normally in the C-Phase where I would do the hair thing :mrgreen:
After a bit of chit chat and the hair kino --- to took her hand and isolated her out in the quieter hallway since I felt I was in ther perfect spot to get AMOGed since there were guys all around us.

When I usually take a woman`s hand I usually take it very lightly (thus giving her the option to easily pull away if she wanted). The ideal situation is when you can do it with a open hand and she is holding your hand but you are not holding hers.

Yeah, I did GAME her and she was showing compliance already. I would hate to get slapped in public :mrgreen:

My personality type is not very caveman so when I do the kiss thing I always do it very gently and SLOWLY and with only a single peck then pull away...thus giving her the option and time to turn her cheek, push away etc. I think this is more classy than doing any French kissing...and safer...less likelihood of getting slapped. The grabbing the back of head thing was actually more of a gentle guide --- so if she wants to --- she will lean into your face or move away. If she is fine with it then repeat as necessary. :mrgreen:This is like my routine for kiss closing.

Anyways --- you have any other memorable experiences or tips of what you did or said AFTER you launched an APB style line :?: I`d like to try some JTs lines but not sure what to do after.


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