Going After Girl Again

Hey guys, first post here.

Is it stupid to try going after a girl when you've already kinda failed to get her the first time around?

Does the Game specify that men should subscribe to the 'one-strike' rule?

The context of my situation is this: I used to really like this girl very much. But she was in a LT relationship before. I still got to know her and hung out with her because we were doing the same class then. And although I consciously tried my damndest to not fall into the Friend's Zone during this period (through lots of teasing, qualification, together with the usual comfort), I may very well have for all I know. Which is strange, because I could have sworn we had loads of chemistry then (yes, I'm not forgetting she HAS a bf then).

She then broke up with her LT bf for a while. I made my move full out then. Ie blatantly asking her out to 'proper' couply dates, etc. Alas, I failed. After 2 dates (which I thought went well!?), she went cold on me and started putting some distance between us. I was bewildered. Then she got into a relationship again (not sure back with her ex-bf or with a new guy). When this happened I broke all contact with her completely (yes, I felt I got screwed over and was kinda mad at that). When she was in that relationship, she tried a couple of times to re-initiate contact with me (suprise, suprise. Women..). Needless to say, I threw the distant treatment back at her. I'm not gonna be any girl's eunuch obiter, thank you very much.

Recently I found out that she's just became single again. So my question to all the gurus out there is, is it worth giving this one final crack? I only even entertained this idea because when we were friends with each other during the early good period of our acquiescence, to risk a cliche here, she was all I was looking for in a girl. And also for my own personal reasons, where I don't wanna be left wondering 'what-ifs' with this girl, hence why I'm after a definite rejection from her as sexual/relationship material (if that be the case) so I can definitively write off this 'bad debt' in my life and move on forever.

And if you guys do think it's worth giving it another shot, what game techniques should I employ now to maximise results? Play it cool and pretended the awkward recent past events never occurred? Run full-on attraction routines on her?

Thanks for any tips given guys.

Hey G,

As a beginner, let's take a step back and analyze mindset before we start gaming women. William was one of my first coaches in my first bootcamp and he told me something that's really stuck with me all throughout my pick up career.

"In terms of your progress, Pick Up actually has little to do with women, it's more-so about yourself and women only serve as a signal of your competence/success"

It wasn't that verbatim, but it's something along those lines, feel free to chime in William.

So let's take the risk/reward right now as a newbie versus a more seasoned PUA......

As a newbie, the only thing you're risking is your ego because if you get rejected, you'll be a little butt hurt aftewards.

Any pick up coach/guru will tell you that you can tell a PUAs success by the way he deals with a blow out. If I or any of the coaches get blown out, it's no sweat off our back, we've lost absolutely nothing, so as far as I'm concerned, even if the chance is minimal, we're still getting positive value from the interaction.

I always tell me clients before they take a 1 on 1 bootcamp with me to get blown out of 50 sets to start with because that'll help you develop your tolerance for rejection.

So for this girl right now, at face value, it seems like the chances are low, but you should still go for it nonetheless. And always remember, especially as a newbie, being more aggressive is always better than being passive.

Good luck!

I definitely agree with kevin. You should definitely go for it.

However, I think I do detect some one-itis going on here. You probably shouldn't go in with the mentality that this girl is "all you're looking for in a girl" because it will definitely make you more nervous, which will be reflected in your body language, tone, etc.

Instead, now that this girl is back on the market, just see this as an opportunity to try again, but not at the expense of any other girls you are currently gaming. This will have the opposite effect of the one-itis by making you less nervous since you have other options should this girl still not be receptive, and by having options with other girls it shows that you're preselected by women and will bring your social value up, which will increase the odds you get with this girl.

apply some common sense here, but generally i apply the nothing to lose rule. if she is not fucking you already you have nothing to lose. rejection/failure is a myth just like unicorns. I mean you had nothing in the first place, so you're really not losing anything. even jk rowling had to be rejected by a dozen publishers before someone agreed to publish harry potter. just don't do anything that will land you in trouble!

also, i would try meditation to relax a little bit. i mean the friends zone, you like her alot, etc etc, is all things you can deal with, trust me. If you're not at an advanced stage with relationships you should just expect this one to be an experiment so you can learn.

Hey guys thanks for the replies.

I have decided to go after her again. Dusting off my old PUA materials now to rev for this second and final attempt at this set.

KF: Gotcha. Because really, wth have I got to lose? Atm there isn't even 'friendship' left between us now anyways.

TL2.0: You got me there. I had oneitis over her before. I know, I know we're meant to AVOID that at all costs, but I was weak then. But rest assured that my previous blow-out with her has vastly decreased my oneitis over her nowadays. I also have another girl in the works so that helps too.

So now that my decision's settled, I have another question: When should I go after her again? She's just broken up with her last doofus bf a week ago. Should I give her a bit more time before re-initiating contact with her? And how should I game her now? Go straight for the jugular from the start and hit her with lots of Attraction routines? Or go slow and start inthe Comfort stage?

Another thing, I have frozen her out of my life for close to 6 months now. Is it weird to re-initiate contact with her now? Especially so close to her being single again. She might become suspicious about my motives.

I dunno man. Someone might need to chime in on this one. After you froze her out for a while you didnt really do yourself any favors in trying to game her again. I generally always like to go direct being that it saves time and is probably most effective, but you may want to go an indirect route into being "friends" with her to the point where you guys are cool again (don't even mention her relationship, let her be the one to volunteer the info), and then once she's comfortable with you guys chilling out go direct asap. whatever happens, i say this is your last chance with this chick, regaming lost girls can turn into a huge waste of time IMO, girls never forget bad experiences and always bring them back. it's easier just to start with a clean slate

anyone else want to put in their two cents? who knows, my advice may suck in this situation. personally i would have prob given up on this girl a long time ago haha

first of all her ex might not be a doofus - it sounds like you just don't like him for obvious reasons - cause you like this girl. sometimes i over analyze when I'm worried. but in reality, sometimes seemingly complex problems have simple solutions. also i think liking someone a lot just makes us human. don't worry too much if you have onitis or not. the missing information here is why she went cold on you even though you thought it was going well.