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This is one of the ideas that has been bouncing around in my head for a long while. As I've started to notice a marked change on how so-called "naturals" both in my social circle, and one's I meet in bars and clubs behave towards me.
Before getting into cold approach, most naturals I met were polite, but mostly didn't care to friend me or at best were arm’s length acquaintances. I guess part of it was brought on by my underlying jealous/hostile attitude towards them. After all, these are guys who did not have to lift a figure, and yet they got the girls. While, I was going to great lengths with women buying drinks, spending money, being “friends” with everyone etc. and could not even get a look from a women. So my Social circle consisted of basically AFCs, who I truly wanted to believe were pimps (and by a reflexive property I was a pimp, women just had not noticed it).
However, in the last three or so months I’ve really started noticing one a change in my attitudes towards naturals, and two (maybe reflexively) a change in their attitudes towards me. One particular example that comes to mind is this tall good looking white dude I went to business school with. I remember when I was off chasing girls left and right in business school without the foggiest idea of how to actually do it, he would be posting pictures on facebook of his “girlfriend” of the week. I didn’t really care to befriend him at the time, but by chance ran into him through mutual friends awhile back, and have since hung out a couple times. The truth I discovered was that there isn’t anything inherently different between me and him, he’s a cool guy, and we do in fact trade tips and tricks about picking up women.
In the community I sometimes sense there’s this resentment towards naturals, that somehow its s US vs. them game. The truth is this only exists in our heads, and it is very AFC thinking in my opinion. There’s lots of stuff we can learn from naturals particularly in regards to escalation and closing, because most of them through years of positive socialization have become VERY VERY GOOD at this (I like hearing their stories on how they actually get women into bed, it’s not this clean cut process that you would believe). And shockingly there’s stuff they can learn from us too-most naturals don’t know how to approach, so I actually have my natural friends asking me to now and then to open groups of women.
The other interesting point I’d like to make, which might be somewhat controversial, but I think it’s true, is that AMOGing is not really meant for Naturals, its meant more for the AFC who might cock-block you. The guys who are really good with women have this deep seated BELIEF in ABUDANCE- i.e. if he doesn’t get X hot babe, Y or Z Will eventually come along. So when he sees you with X in the club, and senses you have some game, he’ll probably let you have her (the old adage that GAME recognizes GAME) so the LESS you do the better. The guys who will generally approach are the drunk AFC’s who haven’t been laid in ages, and will probably shoot themselves in the foot anyways, so also the LESS you do with them, the BETTER. I think I’ve fucked up a couple good sets simply by acknowledging them. So not all tall good looking guys who approach you in the club are naturals, in fact most of them are AFCs, so treat them as such.
I think a great exercise for me in improving my results with women has been becoming friends with several naturals (one of whom is actually a really good friend now, and knows about the PUA stuff I do). And I’d definitely advise anyone to seek them out, it’s a good energy to be around.
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