Variety of Bootcamps To Choose From, and Their Hallmarks....

I had the "fortune" of running into some RSD guys on my first bootcamp as a wing-girl. They were all in a circle, talking, and one started making a move on me. He grabbed me from the waist as I was walking back to my table, forced me into putting my hand around his shoulder and wouldn't let me go.

As I continued walking, he tried to get me to stop. I did my best to keep moving. Finally he realized I wasn't going to stop, so he asked "why do you hate me?"

As I only date Asian guys (and definitely not assholes like him), I replied with "Because you're not Asian."

He mumbled something about introducing me to his friend and lead me up to JT. JT was grinning from ear to ear and said "I see you've met my friend Heather!"

I took the opportunity to run away and hang out with a nearby student for protection as JT listened to this guy's crazy antics. He, along with his other RSD buddies were soon kicked out of the venue for inappropriate touching. As it would turn out, I was not the only one uncomfortable by their tactics.

Another wing-girl shared a similar story. Personally I prefer the graduates of ABCs of Attraction any day because I know we don't endorse that kind of behavior.

I'm guessing he didn't use the correct method of kino turning.

I was a student at that bootcamp. It happened at the W Hotel in Hollywood.

I remember the bouncer approaching JT and I asking if we were associated with Owen (Tyler Durdan) because him and his crew got booted for rough-handling staff and guests.

That definitely erased RSD from my list. Cavemanning during openers is a little counterproductive toward my pursuit of 9's and 10's.

But one factor that wasn't in the beginning of this thread was pricing. It's very relevant. So here we go:

Love Systems: $2,997 for 3 days of Curriculum/2 nights of In Field
ABCs Premium Bootcamp: $1,450 for 3 days of Curriculum/3 Nights In Field
AFC Adam Lyons: $1,300 for 3 days of Curriculum/ ? Nights In Field ???
Ross Jeffries Diamond Level: $1,450 for 3 day Seminar
Vince Kelvin: $1,299 for 1 Week of Curriculum & In Field

Prices and Info I couldn't find or access
Vin DiCarlo/Drills Bootcamp (might have info, but bootcamp page refused to load)
PUA Training
Lance Mason's Pickup 101
Venusian Arts (aka Mystery Method)
Nick Quick
David Wygant
Carlos Xuma
Paul Janka
David DeAngelo
Sinns of Attraction
StyleLife Academy (not sure this is even worth researching - didn't Strauss retire anyway?)
Chick Magnet 101

A lot of these sites request email info or preliminary commitments to bootcamps prior to disclosing the cost or schedule. Stupid if you ask me.

If any of you have the details to fill in the blanks, PM me and I'll edit this post.

Out of all the people they bash on puahate.com, RSD and their people involved takes the most of it, especially for the crazy stuff they do as you experienced. It is said they tell people to do really outrageous things they don't need to be doing at all in pickup on their forums.

As for other bootcamps, The prices range from $500-$3000, with $1500 being the median. I wouldn't take anything above the median amount unless it was a 1 on 1. I don't think Venusian Arts and Love Systems are worth the money for something you can learn with a $1500 or less bootcamp.

I share the same opinion. I still get once-a-month phone calls from Love System's sales department. I think I'll start exercising my creativity with rejecting them - "Sorry, but I took that $3,000 I had saved and put a down payment on my sex change operation. Do you have a class for Transgenders?"

Good stuff!!!