One of the hardest weekends of my life has come to a close.
Little background about me. I am a 21 years old student. I don’t want to divulge too much personal info about myself but the one thing I can say is that women are one area of my life that I totally suck at. There I said it.
Coming into the boot camp, I honestly did not know what to expect but now that it’s all over, I can look back and reflect upon it.
First off, the coaches. The instructor to student ratio was excellent. This was something I was a bit apprehensive about when I was signing up because there were going to be like 6 guys and 3 coaches, but this is as personal as it gets. The attention that I received was more than enough for me and helped me see a lot of my problems.
Day 1 and Day 2 were pure hell for me especially day 2. I don’t want to go into the exact details of my sets because I don’t remember much. But day 2 was hell. Going into one of the exotic nightclubs in NYC was balls draining for me. At one point, my voice just ran out. Opening sets seemed to be very problematic for me but William helped me in many ways. His detailed/science oriented/EXTREMELY structured set of instructions helped me a lot. The same girl I approached I failed, and he approached and got her dancing. I was totally devastated at that point but through his explanation, I realized that my facial expression was very tense and that was killing me.
Now to the positives…. I gotta STOP being so negative on myself (as I have learned). Even though day 2 was hell, I grew a lot. I was able to bring multiple girls back to our table and even get them to take pictures. I feel very comfortable in “B” because joking around/bantering comes natural to me (aspiring stand up comedian). One of the girls William had me approach was really gorgeous…. I said no fucking way this DNE in my reality (does not exist). But as I approached her, the guy she was with tries to move me away and starts tapping me on my chest which I found highly amusing. Later during debrief, I found out that he was scared was the reason why he start AMOGING and viewed me as a potential threat. I also kissed one of the girls on the cheek…. Tried to go far but o well.
Day three was one of the better days I had. The reason being, the first two Days I ignored the instructor’s directions due to my massive AA and gave them EVERY single excuse I could think of not to approach. Well, on day 3, I listened to Tyler durden’s seminar. In this Seminar, TD mentioned one thing that totally changed the way I operated on day 3. He said if you are going to take the boot camp “Do exactly what the instruction tells you. You will be pushed . don’t be a pussy….otherwise it’s a big waste of your money”. I am quoting this from his free seminar that he emails everyone so no copyright issues here.
Anyways back to the point, on day 3, I did exactly what the instructors said and the results were a lot better. Sure, I messed up at times but by doing what they told me I did not have much AA. The first set I went into I ended up creeping out the girl due to my lack of social calibration. JW, upon hearing them told me you should never cause discomfort to a girl and that is one of my problems. To get over it, he had me approach a GUY and talk to him so I can practice calibrating socially. This helped me a lot. Back to girls now…
The best set of the night came when one of the students was in a four set and I was told to approach one of the girls not being occupied by him. She was some Hungarian lady, milfish type. The set went extremely smooth because the conversation was flowing naturally (our was about topics that I was comfortable with). Blah blah blah, talked for about half an hour. Jumped to C and back to B…gotta remember the correct sequence. But I ended up getting her number anyways…. My first number close on my first attempt then we hugged and I departed.
The next and last set of the night was “interesting”, to say the least. There were 4 girls sitting and talking.
Tommy : Girls behind you seated. GO
Me: But there’s three of them
Tommy: I know I can count
Me: I know you can. O now it just became a two set… no three again…. ARGHHHH!!!! I don’t know what he said afterwords but I went in anyways. Used one of the openers that I learned…. Bombed cuz I talk way too fast (slow down). Did not matter as the girl in the middle, ended up asking me so what are you doing here. Turns out she was a college student from Dallas and her friends were from Indiana. We ended up talking for about half an hour. College stuff, any crazy roommate stores, comparison between NY and other states, my Indian background etc etc. At some points the conversation would die out and I just sat there. Tommy, came after a while and what happened afterward was very interesting. We started playing thumb war games and an Indian variation of it that I taught them. We also played the infamous “F,Mary,kill" game and when it was my turn, the Dallas girl told me who would you fuck. I looked around and said, the redhead. There was a redhead seated across from us and I said her. Turns out she was her mom!!!! But she was hot so I could not help but express my honest opinion.
As Tommy and I were talking, this Australian guy jumps in and tries to talk to them. He comes in super high energy. The first thing he does is puts his arm around me and befriendsme. Looks like he knew some basic AMOG tactics. I kinda wanted to AMOG him, but he was entertaining/funny as hell and I ended up being entertained by him. (Now I know how the girls feel when guys entertain them, it’s so much funn!!!)… anyways before I turn gay (j/k), we still ended up having fun and talked for a while. The whole set lasted for a couple of hours. I went for the number close but failed meanwhile Tommy got the Dallas girls’ number…. I think I was not as convincing as him. I just asked for it without giving her any context.
Anyways that was the end of the night 3. Getting to practice AMOG tactics on a real girl during one of the improv exercises definitely helped me a lot because I got the same nervousness that I get during a set but by practicing on a girl without it being a real set, helped me calm my nerves.
If you are thinking about taking a BC, I would definitely recommend APB. Although it’s not a magic pill, it definitely helps you see things. The reason why most of us discover the community and become clinged to our keyboards is the lack of action. Taking the boot camp is a whole different ballgame than reading an Ebook. I think JW said it best that if you look for “free” pick up material on torrent sites, you are not serious about changing and even if you manage to pirate one of the ebooks; you are probably going to skim through it looking for the magic pill and not take it seriously. By making an investment, not only you have a desire to change but you actually have to do it instead of just fantasizing about it. I think that is the biggest difference between taking a boot camp and just reading stuff online. The great thing about APB boot camp is the ABC model which, no matter how many times you read it, will only make sense when you get to hear it in person and even better, get a chance to apply it. Looking back, I wish I could have listened to my instructor’s more on the first two days and not give them excuses and put my ego aside as I did on day 3. I wish I could turn the time back to day 1 and day 2 and approach more and get more critique, but I did not. But, thank god, on the third day, I dropped my ego. If I had done that for all three days, I think my game could have improved a lot. But on the flip side, if I was still a little bitch on day 3, I would have wasted a lot of my time and money. But, at least by listening to my coaches, I was able to grow a lot during day 3. So if you are someone who is thinking of taking a BC, understand this :if you listen to EXACTLY what the instructor tells you, you will see MASSIVE results. It’s funny one of the students who would question everything logically on day 1, ended up getting a make out on the 2nd day cuz he dropped his logical ego but afterwords said “All she wanted to do was make out with me”. You figure it out from there. Doing an APB boot camp + following exactly what the coaches tells you= massive improvements. Do not question them. They have been through the same struggles that we are going through, so they KNOW the process. It’s like questioning Google… it WILL get you results. That’s why you search.
In conclusion, definitely the BC is highly recommended and the feedback of the instructors was amazing. Even their personal stories helped me see what I need to do… and their different style of teaching and their feedback is invaluable to me.
PS how do I change my status to alumni?
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