How have the Forums helped you?

Hey guys, this is Heather the office lady. Hope you don't mind answering a few questions for me. Your input is needed and appreciated!

1) How has the online community at ABCs of Attraction helped you improve, be it your game, self-improvement, or anything else?

2) How often do you participate in the online community?

3) Do you connect to other ABCs alumni via facebook, twitter, google+, etc?

4) How often do you meet with other ABCs alumni?

5) Do you keep up with the regular post-bootcamp challenges?

6) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction has helped you?

7) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction could better serve you?

Let me know by posting a reply! Thanks so much for your help!

1) How has the online community at ABCs of Attraction helped you improve, be it your game, self-improvement, or anything else?
Its a great place to use as a journal to keep track of my approaches and improvement.

2) How often do you participate in the online community?
At least weekly.

3) Do you connect to other ABCs alumni via facebook, twitter, google+, etc?
I'm in personal contact with some from the bootcamp I attended. I'd be interested to meet alumnies online in groups localized to the area or metropolitan area I'm in like on facebook, google+, or other places.

4) How often do you meet with other ABCs alumni?
Weekly.

5) Do you keep up with the regular post-bootcamp challenges?
I don't know how to access the challenges. An alumni wing has tried from what I heard, but was never emailed them. I haven't taken a time to try finding them myself.

6) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction has helped you?
Motivation, ideas, and tracking my progress.

7) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction could better serve you?
A better organized way of contacting one another and meeting other alumnis similar to the wingman roll call but more personal. A mail list for each city or area of a state, or online groups for localized areas, would be great. Also, new challenges, openers, or fun things to do and report back would be interesting and fun(sometimes I need something new to try to keep things light hearted).

Awesome! This is good to know! Everyone else, feel free to chime in!

1) How has the online community at ABCs of Attraction helped you improve, be it your game, self-improvement, or anything else?
You guys have helped me vent about some topics so fucked up that, had I mentioned them in public, I would’ve been admitted to a psychiatric hospital and sedated.

2) How often do you participate in the online community?
Multiple times a day. It’s my new porn.

3) Do you connect to other ABCs alumni via facebook, twitter, google+, etc?
Some on Facebook, some in person and even more on Chat Roulette.

4) How often do you meet with other ABCs alumni?
Weekly.

5) Do you keep up with the regular post-bootcamp challenges?
Nope. I should, but I’ll think of an excuse and get back to you.

6) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction has helped you?
It has helped me procrastinate about all sorts of things be it doing laundry, paying bills or applying the brake while driving in a school zone.

7) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction could better serve you?
Yes….
1. Give me a piece of candy each time I F Close
2. Have a wing girl attend each of my sarging adventures just to pretend to be the “Ex girlfriend who was overwhelmed by my horse-sized boner”
3. Start a thread about sarging Mail-Order Brides without getting married
4. Start a thread about sarging midgets
5. Start a thread about sarging the handicapped
6. Add a night to the bootcamp that involves attending an Asian venue – those places are f*cking hard
7. Have an ABC’s intern stop by bi-monthly to clean my bathroom
8. Have Heather come read me a Mormon bedtime story once a week
9. Help me create a canned opener about 2girls1cup
10. Give me credit for these terrific ideas since we both know you’ll use them.

1) How has the online community at ABCs of Attraction helped you improve, be it your game, self-improvement, or anything else?
It's given me a chance to polish up my writing skills, review important information, and MOST IMPORTANTLY - get critique from APB, other members, ect.

2) How often do you participate in the online community?
I try to jump on at least once a day. I post maybe 2 or 3 times a week.

3) Do you connect to other ABCs alumni via facebook, twitter, google+, etc?
Mainly via Facebook, sometimes through this forum through those who post regularly and show improvement.

4) How often do you meet with other ABCs alumni?
Typically every week

5) Do you keep up with the regular post-bootcamp challenges?
I did for the 12 week post-bootcamp

6) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction has helped you?
It's given me some motivation and some oomph to what I do out in the field. I look at field reports from the weekend and think, "How am I doing compared to these bros?"

7) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction could better serve you?
The Facebook groups are awesome.

1) How has the online community at ABCs of Attraction helped you improve, be it your game, self-improvement, or anything else?

Not really – but I’m very experienced. I’m here to hopefully help others. I also find that posting also helps me think some things over.

2) How often do you participate in the online community?

I just do this and about 2 other websites about twice a week.

3) Do you connect to other ABCs alumni via facebook, twitter, google+, etc?

Yeah --- I’m on facebook but the problem is that I have only 1 profile to track everything and I hate mixing my normal friends with my PUA ones so I have to hide EVERYTHING so they don’t see “controversial” things on my wall or any stuff the others see.

4) How often do you meet with other ABCs alumni?

Nope…not many in my area. I just hang with multiple White groups and I social game the girls there. The other thing I do is that if the White group has a lot of females who are non-gameable (taken, pregnant, ugly, old, etc) is that I go out to their club nights and use the girls as pre-selection to do entourage game.

I do not see what a bunch of Asian guys grouped together would do for me…better to be with at least a couple of White Girls at the club…even if they are below standard…still better for image than a bunch of boys.

5) Do you keep up with the regular post-bootcamp challenges?

Nope. I haven’t really looked for them either. Personally, I don’t believe in Kamikaze suicide missions and I think I have the experience and knowledge to do with out it.

6) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction has helped you?

Not really. Many people are newbies and I think of the questioning reverse in that I want to help them out.

7) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction could better serve you?

Not really --- I’m just here to post ideas that have worked for me and I believe will help others. Go ahead and teach anything I plug up online --- that’s why I plug it up.

1) How has the online community at ABCs of Attraction helped you improve, be it your game, self-improvement, or anything else?
I now understand how to use my browser pop-up blocker.

2) How often do you participate in the online community?
When I want to see a pop up "Get the Woman of Your Dreams by Being the Man of Your Own Destiny. " "Can this be you?" It sure can be, however I don't bang or take pictures with married chicks.

3) Do you connect to other ABCs alumni via facebook, twitter, google+, etc?
Nope, all those are instant disqualifiers and are detrimental to any game, it is impossible to be a "real" player with facebook, twitter, google+, etc? Come on Heather, if I'm going out with you and tell you I'm at home and some girl posts pics of me and tweets about me and then tags me that same night... hmm how's that gonna work? Oh I meant I was at home and then xyz girl called me out briefly but it was only brief. yeah right.

4) How often do you meet with other ABCs alumni?
Often, When I need a ride home from all the women's houses. Thanks guys I owe u, or of course for the occasional Gang Bang.

5) Do you keep up with the regular post-bootcamp challenges?
They aren't a challenge for me but you knew that already.

6) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction has helped you?
I now understand how to use my pop-up blocker.

7) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction could better serve you?
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE ELIMINATE THE POP UP.
IT REMINDS ME OF THE AOL NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR YEARS.
WHAT’S NEXT A FLASH INTRO?
Laugh a little k.

Amen!


Double Amen!!

Disclaimer:
I'm very supportive of JT and the ABCs. However, I also have some negative thoughts about the ABCs online communities. Please know that I am a grateful alumnus and am attempting to express my gratitude by being honest. This wasn't an easy post to type. JT was honest with me, so I feel my honesty in return is the least I can offer.



1) How has the online community at ABCs of Attraction helped you improve, be it your game, self-improvement, or anything else?

When I was younger and more inexperienced, immediately after my bootcamp, the forums were a good way to get feedback. However, I found it more helpful to just speak with more experienced ABCs alumni in person later, namely William, Graphyte, Bigheadedmouse, and Tank. I don't think the online community was nearly as helpful as the real, in-person alumni community.

2) How often do you participate in the online community?

Once or twice a week. I post maybe 50% of the time I log on.

3) Do you connect to other ABCs alumni via facebook, twitter, google+, etc?

No, unless they're actually my friends. If we've never met in person and have never hung out like normal people before, I do NOT want your shit on my wall.

4) How often do you meet with other ABCs alumni?

Not very often, but enough to establish a regular presence with the aforementioned alumni. I haven't gone out of my way to meet any other alumni, but that's because I don't sarge anymore.

5) Do you keep up with the regular post-bootcamp challenges?

No.

6) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction has helped you?

The facebook groups were getting a bit out of hand. I actually left them because I kept receiving notifications for posts from beginners asking about how to get a phone number. Even if I turned off those notifications, the overwhelming presence of very beginner-level problems in the groups made me not want to be a part of them. The ABCs online community COULD have helped me by being less annoying and focusing these kinds of things on the forums.

I remember there was one guy in the fb group who tried telling me that grinding with a girl wasn't a good way to escalate with her. Wtf? There are seriously alumni who think that? If the fb group activity is mostly from inexperienced alumni, it discourages the more experienced alumni from being active.

If people have beginner's problems, that's fine, but seriously, POST THAT SHIT ON THE FORUMS, NOT THE FB GROUPS.

I also wanted to say something about the blogs that some instructors run. I check out JT, William, Gareth, and Johnny Wolf's blogs maybe once every 2-3 months. Most the content is really good and pretty helpful!

7) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction could better serve you?

Somebody mentioned early about the pop-ups that appear on ABCs websites..... get rid of that shit. Seriously. It's really unprofessional.

A lot of alumni, when they get more experienced and better with women, end up drifting away from the community. The quality of the community will increase drastically if successful alumni stay. I think if you find a way to make successful alumni stay active, the community will improve a lot.

1) How has the online community at ABCs of Attraction helped you improve, be it your game, self-improvement, or anything else?

When I first took the bootcamp waaaaaay back in the day, on October 7, 2007, I signed up on the forums as soon as the bootcamp ended. This forum helped me because it was a source of positive encouragement. I was in a very sad, lonely, and utterly pathetic place in life at that time because I had zero people in my life who supported me the way a normal person would expect a normal friend to support them. Being that I was the loser of my social circle, I never felt that I had even mutual respect from those around me, much less positive encouragement for trying to improve my conversational and romantic skills with women. But I was lonely, so even being the loser of a group and not feeling any semblance of mutual respect was good enough because it was better than the emotional pain I felt from being alone.

So, as I proceeded through the journey that the ABCs of Attraction refers to as "beginner's hell", I described the various experiences and romantic adventures I had. I also described in great detail a great many, if not all, of my romantic adventures that ended up in girls flaking out on me, not showing up for dates, being rude to me, etc. So I had a nice mixture and a full range of experiences, and throughout all of these personal narratives I was able to 1) get my thoughts and emotions written down, and 2) get lots and lots of positive encouragement and feedback from others.

Learning how to talk to girls was a very long process for me. It took a lot of time, energy, and dedication. I did my best to remain positive throughout the entire learning process, but it still very difficult, and it was definitely made easier through the support and encouragement and camaraderie that I was able to experience on these message boards.

2) How often do you participate in the online community?

Before my girlfriend and I had a conversation about being in an exclusive relationship, I participated in the online community at least on Fridays and Saturdays right after a night on the town, and at most every day! I looked at this forum as a historic record that I could use to track my progress and help me improve. And improve I did!

After my girlfriend and I decided that we wanted to be in an exclusive relationship, I progressively spent more and more time focusing on 1) my relationship with her 2) my hobbies and passions in life 3) my volunteer work, and most recently, 4) time spent attending family dinners with either her parents or bringing her to family dinners with my parents. As these activities have been steadily increasing over the 3 years we have been in love, I have been spending less and less time writing either on these boards, or on my personal blog. I still very much enjoy writing on my blog occasionally, and also posting on this forum occasionally, though.

3) Do you connect to other ABCs alumni via facebook, twitter, google+, etc?

Yes, but only after I've met them in person at least once.

4) How often do you meet with other ABCs alumni?

I meet with other ABCs alumni all the time. There was a point shortly after I completed the bootcamp when I decided that I only wanted to have people in my life who are positive, supportive, and who understand the obstacles I've overcome to get to where I am. I have found that there are very few people outside of ABCs alumni who have the same level of understanding and perspective and who can relate to my experiences.

5) Do you keep up with the regular post-bootcamp challenges?

Yes and no. I used the post-bootcamp challenges initially as a way to fill in gaps in my personal knowledge and experience in life. Thus, I followed the instructions to the letter. However, as I progressed in my journey and as I was able to find more and more romantic adventures for myself, I began to discover my own personal goals and objectives (both in terms of my romance life, as well as in other areas of my personal life), and thus I began to create challenges to myself that were specific to what I wanted to achieve.

6) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction has helped you?

The friends in my social circle who I trust the most happen to be ABCs of Attraction alumni.

7) Are there any other ways the online community at ABCs of Attraction could better serve you?

This forum has given me a means by which I could keep myself accountable, and has also provided one way for me to receive the positive support and encouragement that I desperately needed when I was going through the myriad of difficulties of "beginner's hell." I feel that this is service enough to me. Really, though, I have always believed that this forum can only help a person only to the extend that he desires to help himself. For me, the support and encouragement that I received was an after-effect of the effort, energy, and time that I put into diligently writing an uncountable number of field reports. That effort, energy, and time was returned back to me a hundred times over, and it was a small part of what has helped me to grow and mature into the better Asian man that I am today.