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 Post subject: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 22 May 2010, 15:16 
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Hello

My name is Michael and I came to Ottawa, Canada 5 years ago to study Computer science.

after 5 years in Canada, I did not have a single female friend. I don’t know why, but at 24, I decided to look deep into myself and find the reasons why I do not any woman in my life. I watched some pickup gurus on youtube and came across abcs of attraction. I then came across BAM (better asian man’s) website and downloaded all his podcasts.Then, I decided to take the bootcamp because I would visit Toronto by myself (I have been in Toronto once before but only for like 10 minutes to take a picture LOL) and maybe meet JT himself. I learned that in order to make friends, I have to get out of my comfort zone and making a trip out of Ottawa by myself definitely helps.

*** Bootcamp review ***

Day 1

First day, I woke up at 3am to take the train from my current city Ottawa to Toronto. At the train station, I heard that there was going to be 2 hours of delay because a train got into an accident and we have travel to Montreal and then to Toronto. Anyways, I am still confident that I can make the bootcamp in time. To my utter surprise, after 6 hours in the train with no internet, nothing to do, utter boredom and a smelly guy next to me, I was the first one to reach the bootcamp.

JT, Kevin and most especially Sarah were amazing at giving a lecture and we had tests where we would be coached on how to approach, etc… We also learned about female compliance tests from Sarah, which I believe is the most important topic during the bootcamp.

We then went to a club in downtown Toronto for our field test. After doing several approaches in the patio, I struggled with approaching a set with one guy and two girls. Kevin Feng pointed at them, repeatedly yelled at me “Go!” “Go!” and punched me on my shoulder. I reluctantly went and at the last minute, I paused, with no words coming out of my mouth. FAIL! I chickened out. I walked away and turned my head to look at Kevin. He had the scariest face I have ever seen. He was so angry that I will remember his face for the rest of my life.

I went inside the club, and had millions of images running through my head. I was a HUGE failure for Kevin, and I had to make it out somehow. Suddenly a hot mixed girl who was white/black grabbed me and asked me to take a picture of her and her friends. I decided to game. A->B->C went very well and I don’t really remember what happened, but I dragged her out to the patio and the next thing I know, we were kissing passionately in our booth. I also remember that she said that she has got a “thing” for asian guys and she would never date a white or black guy again.

She then took my hand and dragged me to the dance floor and we started dancing close together.

OMG

She turned around and bent down like a prostitute…

OMG

I slapped her sexy ass…

OMG

She took my hand and cupped it on her soft breasts…

OMG

I started dancing/rubbing my hard cock on her beautiful round butt…

OMG

She squealed with pleasure…

OMG

She then grabbed my finger and put it up her vagina..

OMG

I chickened out… with everybody watching us…

OMG

I suddenly was afraid. I have in front of me a horny chick waiting for me to bang her like a slut, but i have standards. I don't sleep with women I just met for 15 minutes. I prefer to find a special someone. That bootcamp truly helps me find what kind of person I truly am.

Anyways, that night was filled with electricity sparks! My other bootcamp brothers also made out with their girls too! Kudos to them!

Day 2

We went to a hot trendy Posh club in Toronto called Muzik. There was a red carpet and about 100+ beautiful waitresses in a line greeting us. I have never seen so many waitresses in my life. There was open flesh everywhere.

That night, I was able to kino turn a girl, learned from JT on how to speak to someone when the music was very loud and a number of other things. The last girl I met that night was a Polish girl from Poland. I went from A->B->C->D easily, but once reaching E, i was a bit confused. I said several times the following lines to her:

“Your lips are so kissable”

“I’m trying so hard not to kiss you right now”

I don’t know why but i was not successful at seducing her. I know she was waiting for me to kiss her, but I had anxiety at that moment. By the way, none of us (bootcamp brothers) kissed tonight. Either the music was too loud, or the booth was too small, or simply the girls were simply too hot! ;)

Day 3

When we went to Cheval, Me and R overhead one bouncer at the back say “fucking asians”.

This affected me a lot. The reason why I came to Canada was to get away from racist people. I thought Canada was relatively safe and people were friendly, but to my utter surprise, I was shocked to hear such harsh words towards the color of my skin.When i was young, my friends from high school would not talk to me because “I eat pork!” (Yes, they were muslims and hindus and they don’t eat pork). I would walk down the street and people will shout at me and call me chinese piece of fuck!

Moreover, my friend told me that asians are the lowest in the social ladder and the population in general want us to stay this way. This busted my confidence a lot further. Me, R and B therefore stopped at McDonalds and appeared really sad. R was in a worst state than me. He looked down all the time and we all felt the same way. Several minutes later, I got a message from Kevin Feng to go to Century room, a club down the block from Cheval.

Me and B decide to go, but R decides to call it quits. He was so down. Leaving R behind at McDonalds. Trust me. This was the worst, I dare say, the worst feeling me and B have ever heard. Leaving a fellow friend behind, our hearts sank. During this bootcamp, we helped and supported each other, made great friends, and had a great time. Now, during the last night of that bootcamp, we hugged each other so close like brothers and paid each other respects for the hard work and left R behind. Although he did come by later to say goodbye to his teachers, Sarah, JT, Tommy and Kevin.

Arriving at Century room, it was rather quiet. Sunday nights are called “Industry nights” because the place is full of waitresses, dancers and barristers relaxing after the weekend. Its definitely harder to hit on them. In addition to that, I felt really bad during that night and could not approach any girl at all. I kept thinking over and over in my head about those racial slurs during my youth.

That night was crazy, as i saw for the first time JT and Sarah dance. They were so coooooool!!! Their dance moves were sublime and everybody was watching and lusting at that short asian guy who was dancing with that tall blonde. And hell yes, that short asian owned the dance floor.

Afterwards, we went to the hotel and JT gave the MOST inspiration, heartwarming performance that any asian guy can ever get. Sorry I am not going to give details of that and this is only reserved for bootcamp students. He did his famous walk of Khan for the last time and the hotel roof blew up and the Great Wall of China crumbled before the mighty walk of Khan!

Anyways, after this bootcamp, I feel a stronger person. We have experienced highs and lows and this bootcamp weekend is the best I’ve ever had in my life!

Hats off to Tommy, JT, Sarah and Kevin


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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 22 May 2010, 23:11 
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Yes, Tommy and William are excellent instructors, they started off just as students, and
their success in pickup is default proof of its hard-won vitality.

sounds like you had an awesome weekend!
It sucks to hear about that Sunday night, I'm glad you guys toughed it out though.
I remember William telling me, with every negative, bring out three positives.
also sometimes when I feel shitty, I just reminisce about an awesome moment.
The bootcamp is like a kickstart to your future, the real test is after, when you have
no one guiding you.


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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 22 May 2010, 23:47 
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An Alpha Male would be unaffected by such comments. One of the guys from Kezia’s Organization mentioned that if you are in a club and someone says shit like that to you to just ignore it and say thank you and treat it as if they gave you a compliment. Act as-if you are so high status that you are not used to hearing racist comments or any negative comments. This is key and it also throws the other person off balance because they way you reacted is not as expected.

This reminds me of one time while walking down the street --- one guy yelled at another guy “Hey Loser – come back here!” – and I turned around as if they were talking to me. That really looked bad.

Also realize that most Asian men in clubs are what RSD calls “Chode” or in the community generally known as AFC. Hell….when I walk into a club and see a bunch of Asian Men --- even my mind cries out chodes!!! I went online looking a wing and I got some Asian Guy and when we met --- his club outfit was baggy jeans, baseball cap in reverse, gold chains, etc…like as if he was from the “hood” or as if he was trying to be Black or some kind of “gangsta”..which didn’t match his personality either.

I used to solo sarge at the neighbourhood pub and I felt the female bartender and I were on pretty good terms. One day --- this Asian Guys walks in while she is talking to me and she just looks at the other woman bartender and points to this Asian Guy walking in and said “Fucking Asians!!” --- Right in front of my face. I turned around to take a look at the guy and I was ashamed to come from the same race. It was racist and very inconsiderate saying that right in front of MY face but sadly --- I had to agree with her The guy looked like a sack of shit even according to Asian standards…poor BL, poor dress, unshaven, and generally “loser”.

As an Alpha Asian PUA --- I do NOT care what others think of me whether they approve or not. As matter of fact: If they do not approve --- I rub it in their face even more. If you go through life constantly seeking the approval of others and coming from a beta male frame --- you have already lost. As matter of fact I see my mission is to piss off racists rather than seek their approval…seeking the approval of a racist is futile since their mind is generally already made up and the judgement of you is already pre-determined.

The best revenge is to live successfully.

The only time when public opinion really matters and diplomacy might become a factor is if you are dealing with her parents/family/peer group. Speaking of such --- I recently number closed and dated a White Female Blonde 9 whom was opened and closed in front of her brother and her mom’s friend…alone AND with NO wingman. There is a way to do this…while other people saw the rest of the group as “obstacles”---I CAN make them into my cheerleading squad!

In summary:

1) Act as if it is very unusual to get racist treatment…at least pretend to be the guy who is so Alpha that he is not used to hearing anything negative. If someone says something negative…just ignore, agree, and say thank you….this comes from one of the guys from Kezia’s group.

2) If you go through life seeking the approval of racists then you are obviously below them and they are more Alpha than you. YOU SHOULD NEVER GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT OTHERS THINK OF YOU. Your revenge will come when you leave with the girl of their dreams!

3) Going past the whole racial thing…to a WF – the thing is not really about race --- it is about status/survival value, etc. If hanging out with Asian Men was the coolest thing ever then there would be no issue. It is just most AM’s really are beta or “chode”. Separate yourself now!


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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 05:20 
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Does anyone remember the movie "Knocked Up"?

A bouncer is just a DOORMAN!


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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 08:19 
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Congratulations on taking this very important step forward in your journey. Now that the bootcamp is over, the real work begins. However, it looks like you've gotten enough of a glimpse of what's in store that i know you will push yourself towards self improvement.

Regarding racist comments and other types of things that might get to you, having someone tell you to "just get over it" is practically meaningless, especially when you're first starting out. I understand where you're coming from, because I've been there. I took things to a whole new level by starting up a website and blog that was dedicated to identifying, analyzing, writing persuasive essays about, and doing 1 hour of spoken commentary on, racist news articles, racist comments, racist images, and other "proof" of racism against Asians. This website was called "Fallout Central." Ultimately, all that effort served to do was to get my mind enthralled in a constant process of thinking about, and getting upset about racism. Then I'd think about it some more and get upset some more. It was a constant self-feeding negative cycle.

To break out of this, I made a conscious decision to reprogram my brain. I am somewhat "over it" now, but not completely. I still have to continue to reprogram my brain on a daily basis in order to ensure that my former mentality regarding racism doesn't creep back in. I re-programmed my brain with three tools:

1. Live with a goal in mind
2. Inside out
3. Outside in

These are the details of my three pronged attack:

1. Live with a goal in mind

My goal: to give off as much positive energy and confidence to all people (especially the women I meet) at all times.

I would just keep this goal in the back of my head, and based my thoughts, words, and actions, on this guiding principle that I established for myself.

2. Inside out

I realized that my thoughts became my words, my words became my actions, my actions became my habits, and my habits define the person that I am. I wanted to be a person who is unfaazed by racism around me, but I knew that the only way to do that is to first have a solid sense of self worth, and that started from my thoughts. So, a practice that I still continue to this day is to write down 5 to 10 thoughts that are positive. Some examples:

-Racism doesn't affect my mental state.
-Despite the presence of racist men in the room, the vast majority of the women are curious about me and want to meet me.
-While the racist men in the room are busy calling me names, I will be romantically connecting with the super hot women.
-Life is wonderful
-Every breath is a gift.
-Women love the confidence and vibrance that radiates from within me.
-I am a good man.
-I have many accomplishments in life

I later found myself repeating these things in my head to the point where self-limiting beliefs are completely drowned out.

3. Outside in

I began setting goals for myself. I would go out and achieve these things, and then feed them back into the positive statements in step #2. some examples:

1. I set out a goal to reach a dead lift of 315lbs. 2 months ago, my max dead lift was 180. It is now 245.
2. Five months ago I set a goal to get certified as an EMT so that I can volunteer on an ambulance. (This was what I chose as my "lasting contribution to society"' one of JT's 10 pillars of inner strength). I have completed the class, took my certification exam, and am waiting for the results.
3. I set out q goal to host the most fun social events I could come up with in my apartment. My first "game night" where we played pictioinary and taboo had 3 guys and 3 girls. The last one I hosted had about 17 girls and 4 guys.


So, you can try to "just get over it'" or you can try doing what I did. Either way, I wish you the best on your journey.

Welcome to the brotherhood.

-William



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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 21:50 
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Thank you Koi Fish and BAM. Your advice have been extremely valuable! It sucks being a minority, but as a minority, we represent myriad of cultures that fascinate most white girls.

I know i still feel bad whenever someone yells racist remarks towards me. But whatever, I'll try to think positively.

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""If you have haters that means you're doing something right"



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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 24 May 2010, 17:18 
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Sounds like a great fucking weekend. That's awesome that JT, Tommy, William and Sarah were all up in Canada to teach!! WTF That's amazing!



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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 26 May 2010, 09:29 
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It does not suck being a minority. It may suck being you, but I don't think anyone can just generalize for the rest of us like that.

I do not experience any real racism. Racism is when you get shot/hunted just for being an Asian. Or segregated on the Bus like white's/blacks in the early days. That does not happen in the West anymore. I sit where I wanna sit, eat where I wanna eat, talk to who I wanna talk to and go where I wanna go, it's pretty simple.

Are people on this board really experiencing racism or is it just a matter of perception?
If someone yell's a racist remark, I yell one back or I make it personal for example 'you have a big nose get a nose job'. Everyone and every race has got their perks, people need to realize this especially on this board.

good luck bros! =]



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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 27 May 2010, 03:15 
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Hey mikedota

3 simple things on racism -

you were alone and the idiots took an easy shot at you for their FAILURES in life.
you are a nice law abiding citizen and they bully you because they are INFERIOR and want to feel superior over you.
you are given an abusive test designed to break your spirit so they can push you down to their level.

I was hurt by racist language because I was a nice/wimpy guy minding my own business. It took sometime to get over it, but when you learn from this negative experience you can move forward with more strength.I suggest you train in traditional Asian martial art to build your spirit up so you wouldn't react so badly to racial comment.

watch youtube of Lyoto Machida for inspiration.


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 Post subject: Re: "Fucking Asians" Racism & my Toronto bootcamp review
PostPosted: 27 May 2010, 11:26 
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Racism officially dropped off the planet when we elected our First African American President in the US. :D

On a serious note, there have been news coverage of said Racism in Canada nightclubs as I recall. A few years back there was news coverage of this racist behavior of bouncers not letting minorities in...ie blacks, asians, east indian, etc...

I am surprised that the local Canadians did not know this. It was all over the news a few years back.

Minh, you are lucky to have not experience something so ignorant as racism.

But it exist, but now people are better hiding it.

But life goes on..we can live in fear or in love, its a personal choice.


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