APB Bootcamp LA June 20, 08

I took the TMM bootcamp in Dec 07. 7 months into "socializing" I still had a bunch of holes in my game. However my numbers were more solid, kiss closing was frequent and I got a couple lays and met some really incredible people along the way.

I'm also a good business man who's close with his family. I like to think myself as a "tough guy" though I don't like to intimidate people. I've benched close to 400lbs and squatted over 500lbs. Had my fair share of girlfriends from strippers, executives, to "good" Christian girls. I can't really complain about my life though I want a lot more, TONS MORE.

When I left Monday morn 4am from the final debriefing I was so overwhelmed with emotion I almost bust into tears walking down the street to my hotel. I had to muster the last bit of energy from breaking down. What I experienced over the weekend was so unreal. JT poured his heart and soul into the program from beginning to end. Ironic thing for me was I thought he would take it easy in the in-field portion, instead he was hard at work winging students, pumping them up, coordinating the instructors, EVERYTHING!

The instructors were amazing. They knew my weaknesses and committed to helping me with them. Did not bullshit me or sugarcoat anything. They said it like it was. I'm a very skeptical person but they made a believer out of me.

I was very surprised with the students. They picked up material like metal to a magnet. They learned it so quick I saw them apply it to the field that same night. But what really opened my eye was there was a comaraderie, a confidence, trust/bond that I never expected to see amongst strangers. I got so much energy from them. It's truly a brotherhood. Good job fellas.

More on APB: Behind the cool edgy clothing/look is a very genuine and sincere person. Here's a guy who worked his way from the very bottom up for many many years yet still manages to stay humble and sensitive to his students feelings and needs and still gets the student to man-up and get it done. I appreciated him for someone with AMAZING/UNBELIEVABLE skill and now I appreciate him as a whole person. I think it's something extremely difficult to do in this industry. There are many who are just complete selfish, careless, pricks but JT is definitely NOT one of them.

I know that coming out of here I'm better at this. I'm confident that just within this week I will have AWESOME results. This wasn't a run of the mill camp just going over topics superficially. There was so much depth I'm still digesting it all. I wish I took a APB camp instead of my TMM camp.

If I sound funny or just flat or not make sense or don't give enough credit someone/somewhere it's cause I only had a couple hours sleep and I'm at work. Had to get this off my chest. I'll post more on the whole experience.

HUGE FUCKING THANKS TO JT, INSTRUCTORS, AND STUDENTS FOR EVERYTHING!!!
WALK OF KHAN BABY!!!

I saw this new post right as I finished my last piece of work and right before I headed to bed. Now I'm going to copy and paste this your bootcamp testimonial to my friend, who took a TMM BC and is on the fence of taking an ABC one.

Goodwood, so glad to have met you at the BC I'm happy that it turned out better than you expected, in fact it sounds life changing. It was life changing for me as well.

I am really blown away at everyone's enthusiasm and comradery. The ABC's BC's have REALLY taken off. They were pretty ghetto when I started with a hole in the wall hotel and pizza boxes and beer cans all over and no playbook. But they were still as life changing back then (1.5 yrs ago)

The reason they're life changing because everybody truly cares that you succeed in women, life, career, health, etc. I really appreciate the REAL feedback. Why? because no one else will tell you the brutal truth about yourself. It hurts, but we'll be better off now.

Mad props brother,
YC

TMM BC is this...

It's a top instructor paraphrasing Magic Bullets and Routines Manuel for 3 days. My in-field portion wasn't bad but the seminar was so weak it actually limited me. There's no self development. They don't practice with you. They don't really care to get to know you. The students are cool but not like APB students. I actually had one guy in my TMM camp invite his friends and blow us out of the venue. How freaking retarded is that? In the end I really felt like a horses ass for taking it but didn't really know the difference since I was fresh to the game and I was looking for a reliable source. You basically pay for the name. It's like going to a fancy steakhouse and paying for a 5 course meal with wine and getting a Big Mac with fries and a drink. I would NEVER let any of my friends ever take TMM bootcamp.

Nice to meet you too bro. I appreciate all the nice things you said about me. I am now digging through all your threads. lol!

You know during the 7 months I've been at this I've gained so much experience that I couldn't from any classroom however it wasn't good for my heart. Love and passion were fading away and hate and cynicism were creeping in. My eyes grew tired, darker and colder if you know what I mean. Though I'm tired as fock, I see the world in a new light.

great review. what I like about ABC is that they are not too big and the alumni are a tight group. I know that JT would like to be big business oneday but I feel like we belong in a special niche...an Elite PUA bunch.

Definitely I agree. I forgot to mention that. I think we are an elite group. We are all pulling for each other. We don't have to compete each other and have enough class and discipline a lot of "other" people/PUAs don't have.

My condolences to lambchop my roommate who had to leave early because of a death in the family. My prayers go out to you and your family. Hope yall are doing ok.

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN! It wasn't until I read "the game" that I didn't think I could do much about my love life anymore. I basically became one of those "single bitter old cat ladies" and I was completely helpless. Everything is possible you just have to do choose.

I am copying your post and sending this to my cousin.

Well here comes more irony. My results of socializing were paying off. The girls are getting hotter even better quality like Drs. The number closes are more solid. Kissing isn't even that big of a deal. Some even gamed me all night and all I had to do was sit there and NOT fuck it up. But I really wasn't that happy.

I've come to the conclusion that I was using too many routines (tad manipulative) and didn't know how to really connect with people until now. Or maybe just too scared to connect with people. Now I've got A LOT of tools to be genuine and confident. Don't get me wrong I didn't lie to girls or made empty promises but I think expressing myself the way you guys taught me will make me a much happier person.