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Post subject: Does the Bootcamp help people with a TON of prior experience  Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 09:55 |
Joined: 01 Jun 2011, 09:04 Posts: 4
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Los Angeles, June 2011)
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I took the plunge and signed up for the upcoming LA bootcamp. I'm coming with an open mind even tho some ppl have told me I don't need any help etc.... I guess I just wanna cement what I already know or out do everyone else. It's like the chick with the biggest tits is trying to out do everyone that already has big tits. Maybe I'm being hormonal, like a girl in heat. Sorry for those of you that read this and say give me a chance if your already good, or maybe f* u bastard.
Questions if you already came with prior great "game". 1. Did this help dramatically improve your craft. Exponentially? There has to be a threshold no? I've only been able to manage (aka have sex) w 4 women in one day, in a rotation, not a fluke. If one of you is asking how? I count a day as 24 hrs from 12am. 1.U depart one at around 2am, 2. then you sleep at the sleepover girl's house 2am-10am (until she has to or you have to go to work) 3. Then lunch time rolls 12-2pm you meet at the other girls house 4. 11pm - onward (next girl). Do this every day Sun-Thurs. Fri-Sat you need to meet new prospects or do shit for yourself.
2. Did your game get better "post" getting the phone numbers? Since if you're used to getting numbers what you do after is where a lot of them fall off. I only have a 30%-40% return rate (meaning getting laid). I average about 5 numbers a night already. In my eyes the game starts at obtaining the number.
3. Are super "advanced" techniques "suggestions" reviewed - (I call them suggestions because no two scenarios like puss*es are the same) Like how to pull that girl driving the SL55 Black series, Porsche, Lambo, Ferrrari, WHILE SHE IS DRIVING. I did an endo on a motorcycle once pulling up to a chick in a benz at a light, she was impressed, I asked what she did, "model", let's go to that Denny's, 2 days later the deal was sealed, but that happened only once. Maybe I should bump into one hee hee
4. Did I miss any major areas?
I am not a "community" member, read 1 book the game, and I'm an as*hole to women naturally so that helps.
Sorry if I seem like I'm bragging, I wanted to convey where I'm coming from in one post. I'm sure someone reading this is in the same boat or is hesitant to sign up hopefully it brings clarity.
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Post subject: Re: Does the Bootcamp help people with a TON of prior experi  Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 19:12 |
Joined: 28 Jun 2010, 15:50 Posts: 347 Location: Bloomington, IL
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Chicago Jan 2011)
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Background on me: I came into my bootcamp with some moderate to OK game. Plus I've been studying and going out on my own practicing for about 7 months before my bootcamp. I didn't pull any HB10's, models, or pornstars, but I've had my share of successes with pick up, like my Asian girlfriend.
Answers to your questions
1. Simply put, YES. There were things I didn't even think about needing to fix that dramatically increased my game. JT and Gareth sat me down during my bootcamp and told me, "Get a haircut, and that jacket is brutally huge on you. You need to do x, y, and z." I did not consider doing x, y, and z before doing my bootcamp. It took someone with a much greater skill level and bank of experience to tell me those things. Even after the bootcamp, I was able to see a great deal of improvement by utilizing the tools given to me by the instructors. As long as you soak in the information, take good notes, and most importantly, UNDERSTAND the info plus HOW TO USE IT, then you'll get a lot out of the BC, no matter what your skill level. Keep in mind you're going to be working with some of the best PUAs out there, and they want to help you achieve your goals, no matter what.
2. Yes, after number closes there is a definite degree of success. I found out this stuff actually during the post bootcamp missions when the missions are to design dates with your girls. There's some material during the bootcamp about what to do when you get a number as well. This stuff was really useful in how to plan dates. If you're looking for more success after getting phone numbers, Gareth's iGame: From Text to Sex program is really good for that also. I'm able to do some carpet bomb texts to 30-40 some girls in my phonebook, have some of the respond, and plan 2-3 dates each weekend as time permits.
3. I'm not sure about the super advanced techniques. In fact, I really don't believe there are, "Super advanced" techniques. There is just a solid fundamental framework to go off of. Once you get the framework of the program down, it's really not too "advanced." I don't like to think of Pick Up being hard. In fact, I don't think it's too difficult once you understand the fundamentals and how to use them. It does take some practice to get the fundamentals down aka "Beginner's Hell," but after that, you'll know what to do.
It's sort of like bartending. Once you know how to use all the tools in your bartending cabinet, you can make any drink given the recipe. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Hope this helps, Guile
_________________ ABC's of Attraction Approach Coach "ACTION is the foundational key to SUCCESS" - Piccaso Chicago January 2011 Boot Camp Review
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Post subject: Re: Does the Bootcamp help people with a TON of prior experi  Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 09:30 |
Joined: 01 Jun 2011, 09:04 Posts: 4
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Los Angeles, June 2011)
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Points well taken, I’m sure I’ll soak in all the information and of course it’ll help fill in the gaps if there are any. Revisiting fundamentals are always good.
1. From my previous post, I’m sure you can imagine my inventory of women coming into this is already pretty large. And naturally with large inventory I can choose only the ones with the utmost quality to put in rotation (9’s and 10’s). My previous girlfriends have all been models, 9’s and 10’s etc…. (yes they have been in and I have been with them to every expo you can imagine, GlamourCon, AdultCon, Asian Model Expo, HIN car shows, Playboy mansion parties, Maxium parties, some appeared on the cover of Import Tuner Model, shi* at one point I went out with everyone at one table, and yes the photographers say shi* didn’t I see you before w ….”) Sorry I’m going on a tangent, and it seems like I’m putting my dic* size on the table. Anyone with large inventory has women already dressing them as I do, about 70% of my wardrobe has already been purchased from women, and of course it continues to grow. Women love to play dress up, it’s like dogs peeing on shi* they’re territorial. I did see the VH1 thing with Mystery I’m standoffish to the whole goggle, funny hat, shi*. What do you do when you come out of the gym and don’t have your security blanket for women to talk about? (Speaking I pulled a girl walking to my car sweaty in my gym shi* 2 days ago). Women, (so do I) hate taking all sorts of shi* off when trying to seal the deal. That actually could break the deal.
2. Text to sex, I can see as a huge avenue to explore, ½ of the women I meet at clubs I don’t remember what they look like, and I’m sure it reciprocates. They were drunk, gave to many numbers out, it was dark, consulted with their friends afterwards, etc….
3. Beginner’s hell I’ll take a look into not sure what it is. By advanced I mean something that goes way over the edge even if you have strong fundaments. Examples: (obviously subjective what I feel is advanced based on my experience, considering I don’t know anyone in the community) 1. Go-Go dancers/Strippers other than timing their entrance and departure to snag them. And yes I’ve done it only on when they are leaving or coming, they are the goofy ones with all the luggage coming into and out of the venue. (Bartenders, hostesses, workers, easy compared to the go-go dancers/strippers) 2. How to convince a girl to give you anal (if you’re into it, or maybe I watch too much porn) the first time, like without even vaginal. I’ve tried the lets save your virginity excuse but they stick it in the proper route and then…. 3. Blumpkin (google this) I tried but it was only for a bet if they lost. 4. The model in the solo photo shoot. How to extract if you’re just a passerby. 5. Threesome when the two girls don’t know each other. 6. I’m sure I can list a thousand scenarios that seem difficult this already if you have strong fundamentals. Or maybe I'm just bored.
Thanks for the input.
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Post subject: Re: Does the Bootcamp help people with a TON of prior experi  Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 13:54 |
Joined: 01 Jun 2011, 00:41 Posts: 87
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Los Angeles, June 2011)
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whoa at your success... Your success is definitely over my own head. As a fellow LA bootcamper as well, I'm looking forward to meeting you.
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Post subject: Re: Does the Bootcamp help people with a TON of prior experi  Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 18:18 |
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Joined: 31 May 2011, 22:04 Posts: 525 Location: Santa Monica, CA
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: June 2011 in Los Angeles)
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Thanks for the post, bro. I especially liked the analogy of the chick with the biggest tits. Ironically, that's the exact visual I had when I saw you in class the first day. And Blumpkins don't count if you do them at family gatherings!
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