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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2010, 08:04 
Koi Fish

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Cool man, way to pucker up and practice instead of taking the easy way out and playing sc2 or something. I had a similar opportunity walking back from a buddies place ( walked past a bar with tons of hbs and barely any guys), but got lazy and went home.. Looks like the effort paid off for you!


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2010, 13:37 
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hey bro, love reading your FR, keep it up! I'm taking my first bootcamp in Sept so it's awesome to see ppl actively trying to improve themselves as you are doing. Like you're saying, it's all about the process and there's something to gain from every interaction.


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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2010, 22:40 
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Levele: thanks bro. honestly, I really had to kick myself in the face to motivate myself.
Keep trying bro!! next time you walk past... go in =D

Skillz: Thanks mate. Yea, there's only one way tto be better at something - practice.
HAVE FUN at the bootcamp man! it is awesome! truely life changing!


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 20 Aug 2010, 05:01 
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Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Sydney, Australia July 2010)
SuitedCC wrote:
a-z, damn man, that adventure sounds like an awesome story!

i don't have facebook a, you have my email though!



yeah, got your email...

That adventure (in a nutshell )was about me and an American dental team going to Indonesia to provide dental aid... I was their interpreter.. One location we had to go into the jungles to meet the locals as their village is in the jungles...
We went in with some 4x4 jeeps... At one section it was a downhill ride and the jeep that I was in lost control and crashed into a cement wall kinda thing that was next to a river...! we could have gone into the river...amazingly no one was seriously injured but the front rims were smashed... Eventually we arrived where we needed to go.. hand of providence I guess...
Then there was another incident with one of the dentist... a bit too long to tell here... heh...

hey man, keep up your good work.. I am following your thread... :)


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 23 Aug 2010, 05:20 
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keep contact with the emails man. have you caught up with xavier and lee??

awesome story. Like that, you have an adventurous life man.


Note to self: Learning cold reading. what better way to build comfort then to teach the girl about themselves right? Right now, i'm good with BT and bantering, but my comfort skills aren't that good. Going to test out comfort leading questions in the mean time. CT test and Comfort question = goal for this week.

Another note to self: opener must be open ended. right now opener is a yes no answer


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 24 Aug 2010, 05:00 
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24 August 2010
After work before my studies
5:45
City Center

Just parked my car and i told myself - today is the day you are going to get C-phase down pat and own some girls.

Walked along the street where most uni students walk. Bumped into a friend so chatted for 5 mins and really got me in my playa face.

Saw this goth chick [i like that stuff... lol don't judge! haha] sitting on the side.

Body - check
Smile - Check
Opener - Refined! [added an open end question and was ready to stack it with a story]

HB7 goth chick [damn ugly teeth!, what's with girls and teeth? if she had good teeth, she would have been a 10]
A
Approach
Dreams opener

B
Background story was strong - kinoed in it. BT spiked her from the start (by the time my opener was finished, i've bt spiked her 3 time already? I'm lucky to be able to make up quick witty remarks)

C [this is my goal and my main to be gone sticking point]
Move straight into comfort
"so how would you deal with these relationship problems?"
blah blah blah
now, convo wise, I have to admit i was very weak. First time going into C phase was a bit iffy. But the next part made me proud.

Her bf rocks up in a bike and walks across. Me, being super aware, sees him coming.
"Is that guy coming for you?"
*she looks* "Yea"
I smile at the guy,
"wats up man, i'm just talking with your friend. You scared the shit outta her, i was like who's that creepy guy coming over"
BLP her towards me. He walks off and goes for a smoke.

SNAP!
*we bantered for a bit longer* [note to self - remeber a few comfort leading questions, could have use those instead of bantering]
I left as i was waaay too happy already. *hug*

Case cloooose

HB9 Brunette - this girl is my type. Jeans, architecture student, white... lol but she had bad teeth as well.
Was crossing the street and noticed her in front of me walking the same direction. :I didn't see her face that well, but i had a vibe she was nice!

The next light comes up and she stopped to wait to cross [i have to admit i hesitated behind her once, should have kino turned in the middle of every1... but got scared cause of the amount of ppl== aiiiii will not happen again]

A
Opener
BT Spike a few times

B
Now with only less that one minute of A and B, the lights turned green and we had to walk across. I knew this and planned ahead so I BT spiked before as much as I could to lift the energy.. because right after the lights I need I had to and did:

Stopped her.
BLP her so I was leaning on the wall
and moved on to C

C
Used some cold reading
If i didn't remeber wrong, I said something along the lines of
"You know, you seem like one of those girls who think they know everything about relationships but at the same time, you do feel vulnerable and do get hurt sometimes."
first time ever use cold reading..

"Yes! i am like that!"
BT spike! *high five* ME too!!

lol..
Talked about her accent. Haha it's funny when you say that a girl have an accent when she doesn't... but she does end up saying that she might lol
NOTE: I still feel i didn't hit C that well. Not connected.

Flirrt for a while.
BLPed her and CT tested her. Moved her again (CT test and BLP), ask for name.

I decided I had to leave for my class as I was late.
"You know what, you seem really cute, I would love to see you again"
"me too!... but I have a boy friend"
"LOL how long have you had that problem" [JT... this line ROCKS!]
"Only a few days."
"That's your problem!"
We both laugh. the mood was awesome. We were chilling and having heaps of fun!
I said
"Look into my eyes"
We met eyes and my confidence and alphaness totally overwhelms her. I could see she exactly what was going through her mind "omg, this guy is so awesome though!"

I knew she was going to give me her number [i am 100% sure]... But as i looked into her eyes some more... I realize how much complication i'll bring into her life for doing it. My morals kicked in, I can't and will not break someone's relationship apart.

I pulled out (lol so suss). and said "I wish you and your bf, sincerely, the best of luck with everything"
And we hugged and had a moment. But i knew i jsut can't do this to her.
Walked off with a hella big smile. Really happy that i got past just B, although still need work on C. I was also happy that i didn't conflict with my morals, true to myself.

Thoughts:
Need to remember some compliance tests to do. Need to test her during C phase
Awesome BLP moves today. Need to keep practicing them for more game time.
Keep up the BT spiking moves and techniques, working well for me right now
C - remember comfort leading questions, need to ask these next time.
DHV stories, make a few more. I'm relying on 2 right now and a hella lot of random gold that comes out of my mouth
Remeber the basics! Body language, smile, confidence and good talking voice.
Also, been working on my facial expressions, been very useful especially during funny stories.

Note to self: coming closer to comfort my friend.. Aja aja fighting!

Other thoughts:
In my class, we sit in tables of four... you know what happened?
3 of the 5 chicks sit on my table and we had an awesome fun time during class. The other guys (10 of them?) gave me jealous eyes and was definetly hating on me big time. One was giving me incredible IOIs, smiling at me constantly, looking at me constantly, curling her hair, laughing at everything i said... lol i wasn't even trying. Bootcamp effects and hardwork really paying off now=D

Thoughts after a good night sleep:
My game is flash game right now.. "pickup 101".
Now let's work on the next level


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 26 Aug 2010, 05:27 
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SuitedCC wrote:
keep contact with the emails man. have you caught up with xavier and lee??

awesome story. Like that, you have an adventurous life man.




They are still in Australia...


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 30 Aug 2010, 03:13 
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a-z: O i see.. you know when they will be flying back??


FR 30 AUG 2010

It's been nearly a week since I last went out of my way to talk to a girl. I've been talking with ppl I work with, girls at the coffee kart and a lot of girls from different situations, but haven't done any "cold approaches" so to say. However, my inner game spiraled down on Friday. Suddenly, I became so negative. I think I understand what my problem was... and it is a inner game issue I am going to have to deal with. It is affecting my WHOLE life. Everything I'm doing is limited by one source. I'm still learning how to deal with it... but in the mean time, I thought I might cheer myself up by doing some cold approaches. See if I can make someone else happy.

Mall
6:15 pm

HB5
See her walking across the street
Smile Check [not as big as usual as I "Wasn't feeling it" but you know what, doesn't stop me approaching]
Body - Check
Opener - Check
When my inner game is good, my body language and smile automatically gets ready and it feels natural. With today's negative energy, it felt forced.

A
Dreams opener
Note on opener: I think this may be the last time i'm using this opinion opener I've developed. When I match it with what I think makes a good opener (after bootcamp and analyzing some different openers), I realise it doesn't really pass the test. It doesn't build intrigue, does not induce imagination, is not interesting enough to spark a lot of conversation and only requires is a yes or no answer. yes it is girl relevant but the biggest issue is, right after work, a guy walks up and asks "Do you think two ppl needs to have the same dreams to be in a relationship?" sends of multiple slut shield alarms in a girl.

Of course, I also believe my delivery is a big contribution factor. When i'm "on-game" and in good form, i can pull it off with some other natural transition to other conversations. My inner game was weak today which didn't help when your opener. Really need to focus on inner game, it's too fragile and volatile.

B
this girl kept distancing herself away from me. Although I was making her laugh and she seemed pretty engaged. But she just kept walking back more and more. Which was weird, never had this happen to me. I tried to close the gap by being alpha and blping her. But She steps away one step again. The curious thing was, she seemed to be enjoying my company.

I was unable to continue the conversation after my opener as she kept backing away. [afc excuse. should have made the ho say no==]

Walked out of the set feeling a bit better. It felt good knowing that even though I felt shit, I still went out and did something with my life instead of sitting at home and keyboard jockeying.

walked 10 meters
HB6
Smile - check
Body - Check
Opener -ready
felt a bit better and my state was beginning to improve

A
Dreams opener

B
This interaction was similar to the last one but only difference was, she looked at her phone. I was talking to her and she was laughing and seemed pretty engaged. I have to admit, my voice sounded sexy... LOL
kept talking and then suddenly she starts texting on her phone. I thought this was a good opportunity to do a lil joke
"That's so ruuuuuuuude" *big smiles*
She suddenly turns a smile upside down into a frown. LOL Blow out. haven't had one like this in aggggesss.


Thoughts:
Overall was a good day. I actually went and did something about my life instead of sulking.
My state is back up again. Feeling good about myself.
Opener: really need to change it. going to find some canned stuff to use for a while. Or maybe go situational during day game. I've been getting good results using situational openers in different situations.
The biggest take out of today was the re-calibration of my state to ready myself for future sets. Feeling good again. I know I will nail my next set hands down.


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PostPosted: 01 Sep 2010, 06:16 
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Today was a very peculiar day. As usual, i was solo sarging and I see this HB redhead (9/10) walking to the lights.

5:35pm
City streets

AA gone

A
Smile - check
Body language - check
Opener - Indirect
Here's my opener (open for critique)
Let me ask you a quick question, if you had the choice, would you do something fun? or would you do something "right"?

her response:
Right

Really? no way. so not kool. I thought you were a fun looking person. BT spike
the reason why I'm asking is I have a big choice to make right now. I can either go down to Sydney to perform and risk losing my job OR I can stay here and risk losing my dancing career. [this is a real scenario that happened in my life, I chose work...]

B
Bantered for a bit about nothing really. I should have quickly hooked onto another topic. This is the crucial thing about this set and other sets recently. I did not hook onto anything after opener. My sets are simply opener - set dies down unless i hook onto something. If i do hook onto something, I generally do quite well.

Note to self: Possible questions I could have said: what brings you here today? You look like a girl that likes traveling, what places have you been to? [cold reading! yeeyah!] For some reason, I'm getting a vibe that something not so good happened today. You ok?"

We cross the road. Seeing I have nothing left to say, I decide to go direct.
You know what, the reason why I talked to you is because you looked absolutely adorable.

"Thank you." Now this is the part where I tripped up with. She goes all weird.
"what's wrong?"
"You seem so... un-genuine."
I was taken back. I was like... really? is this the vibe I give out?"
I think I broke nearly every PUA rule out there after she asked me this.

"Wow, really?... You know what, let's put all that pick up bull shit aside. Tell me what just happened and how i made you feel."
"You seem like a great guy that needed some help. I was happy to help, but the moment you said you look adorable and introduced yourself, it seemed like a pick up line from a random internet site"
"wow... thanks. I really never knew I seemed like that. I always thought I'm genuine. all my friends tell me to be me because I'm just a fun and cool guy"
"I'm sure you are!" I actually learned what I made her feel during the approach. According to her - I dressed awesome, seem like a very kool and fun guy but just screwed it up with all this pick up bullshit.

You know what happened next?
We stood there talking for 20 mins about all this random stuff.From politics, to her job (she works for gay and lesbian magazine), to the way we both don't drink, to the way she doesn't like clubbing, skiing, holidays, how she survived september 11 in Dubai or something....
I actually enjoyed the conversation so much... This is something that doesn't happen when I talk to random girls. I seldom enjoy the conversation. We were having so much fun though.

I tried to number close but she's like no. I got so many IOIs though. She offered me her facebook but really, I didn't care about picking up this girl. I would just love to be her friend. Awesome person. Will be in contact with her as friends. Maybe more later but for now, I'm enjoying this too much.

Lessons learned:
Been analyzing waaaay too deep into PUA lately. Need to do more field work
Need to hook onto other topics ASAP after opener. The common factor in all my successful sets is that I can link onto something after opener. Wiki effect time!
Keep spreading the fun. Fun is contagious and I'm infected by it :)
BT spike after opener is important!


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010, 16:47 
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Finally managed to meet up with some fellow PUAs in my home town. Had a lot of fun with these guys.

Time: 5:30 pm
City center

My overall state was awesome. Meeting up with these guys really pushed my energy levels up. I don't know why though... I think I was excited that I'm finally sarging with someone instead of alone.

HB7 and 6
A
Was chatting with one of my fellow PUAs and saw this set coming past.
Semi situational opener? We were talking about openers so...

Smile - Good
Body - Awesome
Opener - "What is the best way to ask a girl you don't know on a date?"
No background story to this though.
State - As my wings said "You look like you just had two red bulls!" lol Maybe need to tone down my energy.

Kino turn girls
Release opener

B
I pull my wing in and we start talking a four way conversation.
I fired a few questions at them and tried to wiki the conversation and kept it going. I should have used one my DHV stories to keep them engaged. Talked a good 10 mins? But they wasn't engaged enough to stay and left.

Overall, first set. OK

HB8 - Sitting on the bench

A
Situation again! - "omg, you don't look like your from Australia, where you from?"
She was obviously reading a guide of brisbane.
I tried to transition to sitting down with her... I did but it made it kinda weird - few things
1. when I sat down, i looked at myself sat down and place emphasis on me sitting down==
2. I kinda lost eye contact with her when I sat down.
3. It was waaay too early in the opener. Should have waited till I started a story.

B
DHV story was screwed up. Didn't remeber the lines again! fk man, i need to work on DHV stories.
Interest was very low. I was leaning in when I was sitting down.
I tried to wiki effect but she wasn't engaged (I didn't hit any attraction switches at all, it was a lot of fluff and bt spiking...)

pulled out after 5 mins. Tried to number close but she didn't comply.

HB 8 blonde
Saw this girl walking past us.
Ran after all
A
Situational opener once again!
"how should my friend here approach a girl on the street?"
No background story.

B
We talked and talked and talked. Wiki effect
Bt spiked her multiple times?

C
Moved on to comfort. talked about her hometown and why she's in brisbane. The energy was still pretty high though. Maybe need to tone it down in comfort and fractionate between them.

Closing:
I tried to phone close but I think the reason why I didn't get the number was not because she wasn't attracted to me... but because my phone closing line just turned on all these slut shield sirens in her head.
"You know what, we got to run but I would love to hang out with you again. What's your number?"
"I don't give out my number"
I move back to B
few minutes later
Ask the same thing.
Still no
but she offers me her facebook.
I start typing it and she leans in to me. I could see she really wants to make sure I add her on facebook.

I'm going to use the ABC bootycall phone closer from now on. I reckon it would have been a success.

Overall thoughts:
I think the 3rd set went well was because she was like me, a fun and chillaxed person. The other two sets had more slut shield raised and I just couldn't seem to plow through it. Hm.. I think that's when I need to transition back into my indirect stack and DHV stories (note to self - WORK ON STACK AND DHV STORIES for god sakes==)
Body language was getting a lot better, my wings corrected a few things for me.
Energy was awesome, need to control it now once it's high.
Situational openers seem to be working awesome for me. Canned openers just seem to come out from me like "a line taken out from the internet". I lack the congruency and genuiness when I used canned material. Never the less though, I will keep trying as I believe it will not only improve my approaching but my transitioning to B and beyond.
did i mention DHV stories and STACK! lol
Kino turn is improving.
Got to keep it alpha. Be alpha, if i want her to move, make her move. The alpha mindset I had during this sarge was awesome. My wings said i was very smoooooth and alpha.
If i want her to smile and laugh, make her smile and laugh. Fun maker right? :)
My wings were very impressed. It was obvious that I had a different style - I attract through my whole lifestyle and not by lines. Thank you ABC!~~ o btw, I was the only asian guy, yeayah! lol

Action points:
Keep approaching and transitioning
Work on my DHV stories and indirect stack
find one canned or create a opinion opener
Learn to transition after an indirect opener
Keep my current momentum and state
HAVE FUN!


OOO and how could i forget. BLP every single one of my set which got me a lot more game time. BLP rocks!


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