Older Guy-Younger Women

During my workshop with Garreth, he did not want me to limit my approaches only to women closer to my age. Im 60...the oldest dude to ever do a BootCamp. I got my share of rejections in LA from the under 30 crowd.
Well, now Im back in the Midwest. I gotta tell ya, it feels un-natural to approach women under say 40. I feel that the younger women will look upon me as a dirty old man. Any way, I feel its a waste of time.
Dont get me wrong, Im still trying. Whats the general consensus from fellow alumni out there ?
Sorry Garreth, I came back and dont feel like SuperMan.

Mailbu51,

For night time sarging, I recommend you find a bar/club that caters to professionals. The crowd is usually older ...30s, 40s, etc.
Most of the young guys would call these bars--cougar bars..haha--- but I believe you will have more fun and the conversation will be more interesting.

My regular spots are usually these type of bars b/c there is no cover charge, the drinks are cheaper, I can sit down w/o buying bottle service, smaller venue, etc.

For the daytime, I agree that approaching women who are mature is probably a better way to go. I personally do feel more comfortable meeting women close to my age during the daytime. Wholefoods Market is a great place to approach women in their 30s and up but dont approach the ones pushing the shopping carts; get the ones holding the shopping basket

But nighttime, all bets are off for me:)

Good Luck!

SC

Malibu51,

I agree to a part that one shouldn't limit or restrict themselves to an age group. But my question is why you specifically targeted under 30's in LA?

And if it feels unnatural to approach anyone 40, then it is unnatural for you.

In my opinion, age is irrelevant to me. I have dated much older and much younger women. I date the person, not the age.

I do not go anywhere specific to meet women because women are everywhere. You'll be surprised how many women you meet when you aren't trying to find someone. By just being comfortable with yourself, natural confidence comes to the surface.

Learn to be comfortable with yourself so that you can be yourself. In doing this, you will naturally be with a woman that you are meant to with and she with you.

You will feel like a Superman when you look in the mirror and truly see yourself as Superman. No woman, regardless of age or beauty, should ever make you feel like a super hero. Why? Because what she gives you, she can take away. If you are Superman on your own merit, no one can take that away from you.

I appreciate what you said...but there is a reality in western society. Age matters ! Unless your extremely rich or Elvis, there is a code of acceptance. This reality can not be denied or overcome with confidence alone.

Brandon,
I'm curious, how old are you?
<20, <30,<40,etc....

i am going to side with Malibu, it is not about confidence.

SC

Im 60...yes...60
Ive spent my life on the sidelines. Had just a few encounters, by accident. Repressive childhood, driven businessman...all that jazz.
No good excuses.
I resisted Gareth's guidance for about 15 minutes till relenting during our five day one on one bootcamp in LA. He said approach everone and I did. But now that Im back in the real world...the midwest...cleveland, Im faced with the truth of my situation.
What has changed ???
I get spiffy before leaving the house so I always look my best
I started working out again
Im always smiling
I talk to everyone
But its still me. Three weeks out and no new connections. It gets depressing after a while.

Mailbu51,

I am going to tell you the honest truth about pickup. We can tout all of the self help mobo jumbo about what is irrelevant and it's all about confidence but these things are relevant:

1. Age (being an older person, myself) : i do find it harder to create attraction with women now that I not in my 20s or 30s.

2. Race (being Asian): yes, i think it is also a factor in the "United States".

3. Good Looks: yes, this is a HUGE factor! (i know Good Looking guys who have women flocking on their laps in matter of minutes without any Game whatsoever)

(4. oh yeah, a really big dick helps too but #2 stereotype has fucked my peeps over -- LOL)

So if you are affected in one of these areas; you will need to try 10 times harder for each one. So for me that means, i will have to work on my game 30 times harder than most people. It's a fact, so do i give up...HELL NO!

We can whine all day about all the obstacles that are in our way or we can SOLVE the problem.
Focus on things you can change: (examples)

1. how you dress ( which you are already doing)
2. your body language
3. conversation skills

@malibu, gonna to tell you right now that this is just the beginning for you. I have been doing this for years and I still learn everyday I game. I still have a lot of disappointments but it only takes one good set to change things up.

I hope this shed some light on this. This shit aint easy!

I wish there were clubs like I saw in Chicago and LA. Ive checked around, and none of the big hotels have lounges like Ive seen in movies.
Any ideas as to where to find places on the weekdays to do night game ?

Hi Malibu51,

I forget that you are in the midwest. I lived there for five years and forget how more conservative it is in that part of the country. Traditional values almost rule there from my experience, so you being with a younger or much younger woman is not going to be as easy as if you were on the coast.

Straycat has hit on a lot of good points.

Being asian in America can seem like a hindrance. I didn't realize I was asian until I started living in the midwest. I am being a little facetious but the question I got constantly asked was 'are you chinese or japanese?'.

Being older can be a negative. I am not super young anymore but being asian allows me to age much slower than my white guy friends. I still have no trouble attracting females. Which gets me into a lot of trouble with my girlfriend who is younger than I.

And yes, being good looking doesn't hurt. I have been told that I am very very (yes, two very's) good looking. Face and body. The whole package. So I am lucky on that part. Plus, I am over 6' tall. But good looks will only get you so far. If you are a total jerk, women will run from you. From experience, btw.

Money. Need I say more?

Having a big cock helps seal the deal with women as well. Regardless of what magazine articles, experts or friends say: women love a big thick unit. Comics joking and peoples stereotypical thinking has made asian dicks to always be small. I am very fortunate that I have a very very (yes, two very's again) thick one to please women. I am glad I am out there to break asian male stereotypes wherever they may exist. Because except for my stint in the midwest, I have never seen myself as 'asian'. I am myself.

Take your time. I know by the way I write, it may seem like I always have a girl on my arms. The truth of the matter is that I don't. It is rare for me to be in a relationship. Why? Because I am just as happy (in a different way) being single as well. I get to hang with friends, don't need to give my whereabouts, smoke cigars and drink scotch. Things that my girlfriend doesn't like or like to smell on me.

But on the flip side, it is also very satisfying being in a loving relationship.

So, the whole point of my post is to work with what you have. Where you live makes things tougher. I am not making light of your frustrations but where you live and expecting the results you got in LA is like going to Hawaii and expect to go skiing.

Keep playing the game. Don't give up. Ever! If I even listened to even one person saying that I couldn't do what I set my mind to, I would not be where I am today. And I have one of the most spectacular life story and stories. Anyone who knows me and my life will attest to that.

Hello Brandon,
Ive heard from JT and Ben and now you that being "Asian" can make it potentially more difficult to get a hot white girl. Quite frankly, I have not seen that with my asian friends here. On the contrary, they seem to be doing pretty well in that department.
Have you been to China ? I have buddies in Shenzhen, in the far western area across from Hong Kong on the Mainland. I have found it so much easier for me to meet asian girls, which I prefer, there than here. I remember one incredibly beautiful girl I was chatting up with the assistance of my friend, Dawai, who just about shit when I asked for her number. I took it personally ! Dawai (david) chimed in that she probably was afraid of my dick ! How about turn about is fair play !
It seems that being happy and funny just clicks overseas...even in europe...Russia. But here, a higher level of sophisitication in women requires the man to offer more in the way of appearance, game, and financial status.
So be it. I heard the world is supposed to end in 2032. Until then Im up and ready.