imo: a true pua doesnt need to pick anyone up.

Stopped reading here.

Guess what? Iam tall, I make good money, probably more than Brandon bcoz Iam a poker pro.
Oh and Iam quite decent looking too, being a white guy with a beautiful mother and the girls of other races are "supposed" to adore me.

Rather than flaming people, you should think about whats REALLY important, except stating the obvious rumours.

Neither being tall or good looking nor being a millionaire makes one a perfect natural, or even gets me any chicks or else I wouldnt be registred on this forum.

Haha, I like how you called me a hypocrite. I guess I am one... though doctors do pay the man and society more than they earn and deserve, and get a buttload of debt when they graduate. LOL. But don't sweat. I'm sure most people do have a hypocritical side to them.

Whatever is said, while I still think JT is a money-sucking vampire, at least he's a money-sucking vampire who takes care of his brothers, has amazing skills, and offers to teach it to us for an affordable cost that other bootcamps don't offer, and offer people who don't weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth the opportunity and necessary resources/skills to build their own wealth from scratch. Everyone wants to make money. So do I. So does everyone. There's nothing wrong with that. At least he takes care of his brothers. Give me a thief with common decency who cares for his comrades against a person who never committed a crime, but uses other people as a stepping stone and sacrifices their own brothers to climb up themselves, I'll take the thief any day. JT isn't the only amazing Asian PUA out there. There are a ton of them in hiding, a ton of them who don't show themselves, and a ton of them who keeps it to themselves because they want to benefit from it alone and don't want other competitors. At least JT is willing to share his skills and secrets and let all of his brothers improve from it. He cares for us, he helps us, and he offers to show us a light in the darkness.

So, no need to get so defensive. If I didn't like JT's idealism or company, or if I thought he was a fake, a scam, or a con, I wouldn't have signed up for the bootcamp and put all my trust in him by paying up front. I'm proud of JT and I like him.

You guys realize that JT used to be an aerospace engineer right? I think he worked for Boeing, Raytheon for quite a while before getting into this...I'd imagine he'd be making more in his previous career then this one.. I don't think he's in this for the money...

You guys have to realize how much money and time it takes to run a business like this. Although you guys only see the initial price of the bootcamp, you don't see travel time, overhead, website management, travel costs, employee costs. If he's good why would he do it for free. And this is a full time job so he has to make money some how to live right?

Exactly. Although you guys see the initial salary doctors earn, medical school tuition costs up to 45,000~60,000 a year and can cost up to 200,000 total. We also have to cover insurance, suffer torrents of complaints from patients whom lives we saved just to stab us in the back after they're well again for being "too costly" or "not doing it well enough" and then sue us. Plus universal health care is threatening to cut down our money even more. There are a ton of careers that could make twice, thrice even ten times the amount of money we make per year in a single month or even a day without the overhead of the overwhelming student loans or the insurance and amount of time/money we put into this. Being a doctor sacrifices more money than we earn. So no one in the right mind should be a doctor for the money.

Oh wait, you're talking about JT. LOL (Just a jest)

In all seriousness, though, I offer my apologies if I've insulted anyone, especially JT. I didn't initially mean that in an offensive way in my initial post. I was actually trying to indirectly compliment him. His bootcamps and materials are affordable and easy to understand. He's a great and respected figure who knows what he's doing and how to teach his material. I respect JT and his crew a lot, idolize him, even. He takes care of his Asian brothers. And if you've read from my 1st paragraph (see 1st paragraph above), I do understand what it means to put a lot of money into something and help people improve and potentially save their lives just to have the media and normal folks criticize us. We're in the same boat.

Btw hospitals charge that much for the shitload of tests because of how much maintenance of and operation of machines like x-rays and MRIs, enzyme tests and drugs (from which biotechnicians and pharmacists rip us off) not doctors themselves, unless we open our own clinic (to which none have their own x-rays and MRI's because they're not affordable)............... haha, okay okay, I'm getting way too defensive, too.

It's funny how much the OP has trolled this thread. No one would sign up for a forum just to post such an ignorant diatribe if he weren't looking to be amused by the responses. This is Internet 101: take a interwebs bootcamp if you have to.

Why is it ignorant? Quick summary:
OP is a natural but somehow doesn't realize that others are not naturally good with women? Somehow he never had the thought that other people might have problems? Oh that's right he's been living in a bubble all these years with beautiful women. Come on guys who would tell you to "just" be yourself if that's not been working all these years?

By the way if you actually do a calculation of JT's revenues minus upfront costs (tickets, hotel, conference venues), the numbers are already unimpressive for someone of his engineering background. As mentioned there's also the hidden costs: risk of a weeked having not enough signups, writing and printing material, maintaining a site, hiring staff for administrative tasks, etc.

The amount of shit he has to deal with (yes we are a very frustrating bunch to teach) and the quality of life he has to live (irregular hours, cross-timezone flights every week) makes me surprised he didn't call it quits a long time ago and hand the torch over to someone else.

Sometimes I think he labels this the Asian PUA forum not because he wants to attract the Asian niche but because he wants to focus his help on those who have experienced the same Asian plight.

Hi Ezkiel and all,

I was going to respond last night but it got too late and I was way too tired.

My original post was not meant to be a 'troll'. If one reads it somewhat carefully, you will see that there are a lot of 'life tips' to be had.

If one thinks meeting a girl is hard. Wait until you want to be in a relationship and stay in it. Meeting girls is the easiest thing when compared to a relationship.

Yes, meeting girls is unnerving for a lot of guys. And it just isn't asian guys who are in the same boat. Why I think that I find disagreement with JT is that he perpetuates the asian stereotype in order to break it. It's almost like a doctor emphasizing bad health so that he can cure it. Is this wrong of JT? Nope. People have every right to spend their time and money how they wish.

Jt is very good at what he does. I can tell even though I have never had any direct contact with him. He is a master at creating a need...when, imo, a need was never really there. ie. meeting girls.

Believe it or not, I am very proud of JT and his entrepreneurial drive. He has clicked into a market that is booming.

Now, back to the topic of meeting girls.

My question is: why would you want to meet a girl with all this 'training' only to find that you can not maintain that relationship?

It's like being so happy getting into med school because you took all the right prep courses only to find that you can't handle the academic and physical role of being a doctor and you eventually flunk out.

If anyone sees my original post as trolling, then again imo, you don't have the maturity YET to be in a real relationship. A good healthy relationship. If your goal is to meet women and have one night stands or roller coaster psychologically extreme relationships, then being a pua isn't that bad of a way to go. JT's constant pictures of him with (not really imo) good looking white girls is a testament on his sales pitch philosophy. Be careful of being able to meet women at will. It isn't as fun as people think. Too bad it's true that we always want what we don't have.

I think you're missing the point, a bit Brandon85. I'll use your analogy of getting into medical school. Becoming a doctor means getting into medical school and working your way through medical school, internship, and eventually specializing. However, the absolute first step is getting into medical school. Without getting into medical school, you can't be a doctor. And the reason is it's HARD to enter medical school, VERY hard. Medical school can be compared to an attractive girl. A TON of people apply for medical school, the same way a lot of guys "apply" for the girl. There is heavy competition and even if there weren't, there are entry standards you must meet and you must be prepared for. And not all who applies to medical school are from pre-med (which is your so-called "normal way" of meeting girls) That's why there are MCAT prep courses, post-bacc programs, interview previous experiences and books on tips, dress code, etc, a whole bunch of resources dedicated to help people get into medical school. You generally have to be in the 95th percentile to get into a good medical school and it is tough. I'm not saying once you enter medical school, you'll be guaranteed an MD and become a doctor. But if you don't make it into medical school, you cannot get a license, and hence cannot be a doctor.

Just like with girls. Maintaining a relationship and keeping the girl is important, yes, but how can we maintain relationships if we don't have a girl in the first place? Getting the girl attracted to you is the first step. Maintaining the relationship is important (just like getting through the heavy coursework that is medicine), but it comes next. Without a girlfriend, there is no relationship to maintain.

I understand where Brandon85 is coming from. I mean I've been in relationships before and they were awesome, good long years of my life share with girls I've loved. But my recent latest break got me so traumatize that I couldnt pick myself back up.

And after not being in contact with any other girls for a good long period, I start to over think to myself that shit I don't think Im capable of talking to girls every again.

But you know what ABCs Attraction help me realise that there are many men no matter what race or age that are in all kinds of different positions/situations.

When I got back in touch with my buddies they were all in relationships different kinds as well. One of them is starting a relationship, another is in a break-up/make-up relationship and the other is wanting nothing BUT sex (Natural PUA) and I was like well I want that feeling back.

And from what i've learned from the book "The Game" and the Homework I've been studying, I've re-trained myself to become "Be yourself" again.

I've got a girl I approached and we've been hitting it off pretty well.

I can personally say I'm not in it for the One Night Stands, but it would be nice to be able to go out into those enviroments and just approach women. You make friends, maybe even best friends it doesn't have to be just girls.

People want different Results out of this program. For me i'm only 22 and I'm ready to Look for the Girl of My Dreams and Be the Man of hers. Everything else that happens in between, fallouts, break ups, and the occasional fun are just chapters in my life that could or will happen.

JT is going to open that part of the life that I have been missing. And its awesome to be become part of something big.

Hi Raigon,

I know a little bit about med school. Just a little. Getting into med school is more like the 98th percentile. So yes, you have to be smart. But smart isn't all they are looking for. And MCAT scores are important but so are a lot of other things. They look at diversity of your education (well rounded) as well as maturity. The interview is critical. This is where you NEED to BE YOURSELF and not bs the interviewers. They will see right through you. Sound familiar?

Medical school in itself isnt really as hard as people make it out to be. The good strong foundation one should have established from undergrad should make the demands of med school at best just a little more trying. Again, sound familiar?

So, my analogy of med school in meeting a girl and maintaining a relationship is not too far off.

I am a very blessed individual. I know it. I am very very VERY lucky to have it all. Whatever that may be for you will be different for me. But it doesnt mean that I didnt work hard. It doesnt mean that it came easy.

How I achieved the 'things' and 'goals' in my life, and I will superficially put women in this category since a lot of guys with little to no concept of real women see them as this, was being myself.

If women liked me for who I am: great. If not: no big deal.

Here's a story. I was dating this girl. Very Pretty. And she was very superficial with image being everything to her. To sum my personality: I am a Goof Ball. I apparently did something embarrassing one day and she flipped out. She said why couldn't I be more like her brother in law who was quiet and reserved. Well, long story short. I excelled in life (and continue to do so) and her brother in law is still stuck in his low level management position with no prospect of a future.

Where I am today is a result of me being myself. I realized my insecurities early in life and made them to be a positive rather than toxic. Just as a poster said that no two snowflakes are alike. Imo, no set method is right for every person. It is at best a superficial sham that will be impossible to maintain if and when a true relationship were to develop. This will almost always lead to deeper disappointment and disillusionment.

It is almost like winning the lottery. The overwhelming majority of the people who win the lottery , at the end, are worse off than they were to begin with. Why? Because they didn't have a foundation on how to build and maintain wealth.

Sound familiar? Just because you are successful in hooking up with a girl with a formula of scripted gestures and sayings is no guarantee for a future relationship because you lack the foundation of who your true core being is.

Thus, my questions are: how can you be comfortable with someone when you are still uncomfortable with yourself. How can you love another person when you don't even love yourself? How can you respect someone when you don't have enough respect for yourself to work on yourself.

I don't know enough about pua boot camp to know if they work on who you are or just who you are suppose to be.

In highschool, I was the biggest nerd. I was such an outcast that no one, not even the nerds wanted anything to do with me. By being shoved aside by everyone, I learned to be self reliant. To acknowledge other peoples opinions but not necessarily take them to heart.

When I 'grew up'. Not only was I blessed to be 6'2" (late bloomer) with broad shoulders, narrow waist and a face that isnt too hard on the eyes but I was blessed with being a little smarter than average (just a little) with the ability to be my own self (due to no one accepting me).

Like one poster pointed out that I was a 'natural'. I never heard of that term before. Just as I never knew what a 'pua' was until recently. So, as I reflect a little about myself, Yes, I would have to agree that I am a natural. Why? Because I am comfortable with myself. I have learned to love myself and embrace all the flaws (and there are many) that I have. I am almost always happy and upbeat. It's not an act. It's because. No reason. Just because.

So, what may seem like crap dropped on you at the moment may be just fertilizer for growing you into a better person later in life.

Confidence comes from success through failure. Anyone telling you otherwise is selling you something.

Your question carries with it a HUGE assumption about everyone who takes this course.

How can you suggest failure is inevitable?

To do so is to view everyone with a cookie-cutter mindset.

Some people do make it into healthy relationships. Others do not. No two people experience identical scenarios.


Exactly. And ABC's provides the steps for one to achieve that.

But again Brandon, all you've recommended thus far is "be yourself". Doesn't do much to supplement the curriculum JT teaches. So if you have a better system that has been tested by many and proven to be successful, now's the appropriate time to start marketing it.

Vaguely telling people on this forum that they should be doing things differently regarding relationships is a little redundant since the act of joining this site demonstrates one is already exploring such a notion.


Ever flirted with a really attractive woman? It boosts your ego. It makes you feel like Superman. Therefore, it compliments all of the things you mentioned (self respect, comfort, confidence and love)

Self improvement doesn't have a finish line. It's ongoing.

And people begin pursuing the opposite sex at different stages. Where you began doesn't necessarily apply to everyone else for a multitude of reasons. Nor is there anything on this forum that suggests members are neglecting themselves in order to pursue women.