|
| Author |
Message |
|
Jinjo
|
Post subject: Compliance test tips for beginners!  Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 23:43 |
Joined: 04 Jun 2010, 23:12 Posts: 106
Bootcamp Graduate: May 2010, New York City
|
|
This post is targeted towards beginners. Personally, I feel like one of my biggest turning points in my progress occurred when I finally understood compliance tests (CTs) -- my confidence and social intelligence took off after that.
PURPOSE OF COMPLIANCE TESTS: gauge how much a girl likes you. This should be obvious, but notice that I say "how much" instead of "whether or not." The concept of CTs should help beginners understand that attraction isn't binary, ie attraction isn't a "100% present or 100% absent" idea. Attraction comes in varying degrees, and CTs help you understand how much attraction you have with a girl.
WHY COMPLIANCE TESTS WORK: we assume that girls will more reliably reveal attraction by complying rather than giving IOIs. The idea is, instead of waiting for the girl to go out of her way to indicate interest, to put the girl in a position where she would have to do nothing to demonstrate interest. To say that in simpler terms, a CT is when you manipulate a situation to where you give the girl two options: 1) do nothing, which would indicate attraction, or 2) act, which may or may not indicate a lack of sufficient attraction. For example, when you put a girl's hand in your lap, she could either do nothing (option 1) or remove her hand (option 2). If she chose to do nothing, she'd indicate attraction and pass the compliance test. You put the girl in a situation where she'd be indicating attraction if she chose to do nothing!
TYPES OF COMPLIANCE TESTS: varies more than non-sexual and sexual! As I recall, non-sexual and sexual are the types that JT teaches in the bootcamp. This is an excellent paradigm for beginners, but as you get better, you'll gather a mental list of CTs of varying degrees.
Example 1. If you tell a girl to move over to your left and she moves to your left, that's a very small degree CT. It really only indicates that she respects you; it hardly indicates any actual attraction. But still, it's a passed CT.
Example 2. If you give the girl a high five and her hand lingers on your palm for a moment or she squeezes your hand before letting go, that's a larger degree passed CT.
Example 3. If you offer to hold a girl's hand and she takes it, that's a pretty obvious passed sexual CT.
Example 4. If a girl is facing you and standing only six inches away, and you put her arms on your shoulders or your chest, and she leaves her hands there, that's an even bigger sexual CT passed.
Examples 1 and 2 were non-sexual CTs, yet passing example 2's test means more than passing example 1's. Examples 3 and 4 were both sexual CTs, yet example 4 was bigger than example 3.
The key message here is that you need to escalate compliance tests. Holding hands is, in my opinion, the smallest sexual CT. Therefore, it should always precede holding your mouth one inch away from the girl's, which is a larger CT and the one I use to kiss the girl (I don't use any kiss closes, just CTs!).
ASSESSING WHETHER OR NOT A GIRL PASSES A CT: not as obvious as it seems! If you tell a girl to sit in your lap, but she deliberates for five seconds before actually doing it, she basically failed the CT, even though she finally ended up in your lap. Yes, it's still better than her deciding not to sit in your lap. But, if for some reason the girl feels like she's socially obligated to pass your CT, she'll pass it anyway. Deep down inside, she didn't want to do it, and how she's feeling inside is what counts. Her hesitation to pass your compliance test could indicate that she actually failed it.
However, hesitation doesn't always indicate failure. Use your own situational observations to assess that for yourself. Just remember that the results of a CT aren't as simple as pass or fail! If she hesitates before passing, take a quick moment to yourself to rationalize the hesitation......but only a quick moment! You still need to game forward.
CREATING YOUR OWN CTs: you should never be in a situation where you run out of CTs!
Point 1: not all compliance tests are physical. If a girl buys you a drink, she's investing in you, therefore proving she passed some sort of CT. I've had girls buy me expensive dinners and tickets for salsa lessons, all passed CTs because she responded to a situation by investing in me. If you mention a sexual topic and she jokes about it, that's also a passed CT -- a verbal CT!
Point 2: being able to improvise CTs can keep the conversation more natural. If you only have a small handful of CTs in your repertoire, you'll constantly be thinking about how to direct the conversation toward executing a CT. This takes away from how well you're listening to the girl, and listening to the girl is MUCH more important than talking to her. If you can create CTs on the spot, you can focus on listening and having a good time with the girl!
READ A GIRL'S FACIAL EXPRESSION TO SEE IF SHE PASSES A CT: sometimes girls will show they're passing a CT that you didn't mean to give them, and you can tell from their facial expressions! One day, I was talking to a girl who had her back against a wall. I leaned myself against the wall, my hands on either side of her head, so that I was leaning into her, very much within her personal space, and was smirking at her eye level. I was in a very dominant position over the girl. The girl didn't cower; she started to look excited. I didn't even realize it at the time, but the girl thought I was flirting with her, and she was passing an unintentional CT.
USE CTs THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE ABCs STRUCTURE AFTER C: remember to continue CT-ing even when escalating, making out, or having sex! So you've moved on from the C-phase. You still need to be creating even more CTs in your head (or simply have more CTs from past experience) to figure out if you're escalating properly, if it's okay to remove her clothes, or if it's okay to insert yourself. This last part, CTs during sex, is also really important, because you're testing for COMPLIANCE, therefore you're PACING yourself properly. CTs during sex will help you avoid being desperate, thus avoiding becoming less attractive!
CLOSING THOUGHTS: compliance tests were perhaps my main takeaway from my bootcamp. More than BLP, dominance, DHV stories, correct speaking, or body language. Those were all valuable lessons, but compliance testing is something you can understand immediately and improve on. The thing is, you need to realize that you can improve your compliance tests! When you become so fluent with compliance tests that you don't even think about it, you can spend less time worrying about compliance tests and more time listening to the girl and making a genuine connection.
Thanks for reading!
Jinjo
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Raigon
|
Post subject: Re: Compliance test tips for beginners!  Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 02:11 |
| Warrior |
 |
Joined: 02 Jun 2011, 01:21 Posts: 404 Location: Adelaide, Australia
Bootcamp Graduate: Not yet
|
|
Where's the like button on this thread??? I want to click it 1000 times. =D Great post Jinjo!!!
What about CT's in places that are a bit harder, like say, on the bus? So far, Mike's told me Guessing games and moving her around to another portion of the bus.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Kaida
|
Post subject: Re: Compliance test tips for beginners!  Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 02:40 |
Joined: 31 Jul 2011, 18:58 Posts: 131 Location: Australia - Canberra
Bootcamp Graduate: No
|
|
This is an incredible beginners guide.
It all makes sense now
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Ben J
|
Post subject: Re: Compliance test tips for beginners!  Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 09:47 |
Joined: 28 Jun 2010, 15:50 Posts: 347 Location: Bloomington, IL
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Chicago Jan 2011)
|
THANK YOU JINJO! Great post! IOI's suck, CT's rock. Here's a few tiny tidbits to add Remember to reward her with kino after she passes sexual CT's. In a way, we are conditioning her to respond positively to our sexuality. If you don't know what conditioning is, check out this clip from Big Bang Theory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA96Fba-WHkAlso, for those of you having trouble with facial expressions and reading them, check out a PS3 game called L.A Noire - It's all about interrogation and facial expressions. Again, thank you Jinjo! I'm sure this will help out all the newbies!
_________________ ABC's of Attraction Approach Coach "ACTION is the foundational key to SUCCESS" - Piccaso Chicago January 2011 Boot Camp Review
|
|
|
|
 |
|
loveseeker
|
Post subject: Re: Compliance test tips for beginners!  Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 20:10 |
Joined: 19 Apr 2009, 10:08 Posts: 74 Location: Chicago, IL
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Los Angeles, June 09)
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Wolf
|
Post subject: Re: Compliance test tips for beginners!  Posted: 06 Aug 2011, 15:15 |
| Koi Fish |
 |
Joined: 30 Apr 2011, 17:01 Posts: 12
|
|
GREAT post! Really explains the CTs well, although the lack of knowing some pre-determined CTs is hurting my game. Trying to come up with them in field is really tough and divides my attention from the girl. I definitely get what you're saying about listening to the girl and focusing, but it's hard to do that and test for CTs at the same time, until the CTs become automatic. So do we have a short list of flexible CTs we can use in field and practice while trying to master this?
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Ozziesaurus Mex
|
Post subject: Re: Compliance test tips for beginners!  Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 21:25 |
Joined: 21 Jun 2007, 20:05 Posts: 481
|
Raigon wrote: Where's the like button on this thread??? I want to click it 1000 times. =D Great post Jinjo!!!
What about CT's in places that are a bit harder, like say, on the bus? So far, Mike's told me Guessing games and moving her around to another portion of the bus. For this we have to factor in 1. Environment 2. Social Norms. Depending on those factor we can conclude how much we can CT. If you are at church and you are sitting next to the HB with all the other seats full, then CT frequency and level will be at a very minimum. Now in a club setting CT frequency and Level will increase drastically compared to church. There is not need to get trigger happy and CT 238472 times on the bus.
_________________ The Pick Up Artist formerly known as 4Five6, now Ozziesaurus Mex... The Latino Gentleman! The ABCs Of Attraction Certified Coach Day Game: http://ladating.eventbrite.com/ Follow Me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LatinoGentlemen
"Don't find fault. Find a remedy."
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Johnybravo
|
Post subject: Re: Compliance test tips for beginners!  Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 05:13 |
Joined: 09 Sep 2011, 15:45 Posts: 7
|
|
You guys are amazing. I agree they should make a like button for this post. Thanks for sharing
|
|
|
|
 |
|
|