I know here are many Asian guys, Iam a white guy and I sit in the same boat JUST LIKE YOU
Iam 26 years, half virgin, not successful with girls, even Latin and Asian girls seem to avoid me, even though Iam more interested in them than in White girls (especially Latinas)
I might like to be a poser, I might try to come off dominant (I fake it), I might get money from Poker but exactly thats what seems to creep them off !
I am a pure soloist and socially incompatible from my years of Warcraft 3, Starcraft, DotA and now Poker.
Iam a nerd but I seriously need to change my situation !
I tried to talk with women on the street three times here in the third world and got blown off like whoa ! not even funny.
Just saying, race is not important, I see ugly white guys, latin guys, asian guys, black guys with HOT girls but me I was always single, for 26 years !!
This is not supposed to be a whine post, but since you asian boys always cry your soul out in here I thought I would show you a similar situation coming from a "mighty" white guy.
Race doesnt make or give you a fcking thing, all the power lies deep within inside you and needs to awake like the dragon you can transform into !!
I admire the Alphas at ABCs, but stop saying its easier for the white guys, because Iam a total failure and the exact opposite of successful. (I just know how to win at Poker)
Cheers, Manuel
Ben J
Post subject: Re: Race doesnt matter
Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 22:49
Warrior Scholar
Joined: 28 Jun 2010, 15:50 Posts: 345 Location: Bloomington, IL
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Chicago Jan 2011)
I don't believe ever hearing or reading on our website that it was easier for white guys.
Yes, you are correct on ugly men of all races with great game that get with gorgeous women, but how we Asian guys run game is merely different, not necessarily more difficult.
Joined: 07 Jul 2008, 15:18 Posts: 849 Location: Sydney, Australia
Bootcamp Graduate: Yes (BC: Sydney, Nov 08)
Quote:
but how we Asian guys run game is merely different
How do 'we' play our game different?
_________________ We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. - Artistotle
mymeowcat
Post subject: Re: Race doesnt matter
Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 00:36
Alumni
Joined: 04 Feb 2010, 00:19 Posts: 216
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: San Francisco, CA July 2010)
@ Aleman: you sound like you spend a lot of time on video games and poker…with me --- it was with work --- to keep my mind busy…it made me feel important or at least accomplishing something….it was a way of spending time --- since you are not obviously spending time with women.
I once told a good friend of mine (thinking I was bragging about accomplishments) and how I live for my work, etc…and he told me I was using it as a “distraction” from the real problems in life. This might explain your “expertise” at poker.
Another thought --- you sound like a guy I met at the local lair who eventually took at a boot camp at some other company. The instructors (after examining his behavior) honestly told him to “get checked out” by a medical/mental health doctor. He was later diagnosed with something he calls “General Anxiety Disorder” and was prescribed medication…he was last reported to be doing extremely well.
I’m going to pick a random number off my head – but if you still find yourself having real confidence or inner game types of issues after say 1 year of being into PUA --- I think you might have an issue with clinical depression or anxiety disorder.
This is not meant as an insult --- statistically in the USA / North America --- about 10% of people suffer from clinical depression (which also linked closely with anxiety). Really – if your game has not improved dramatically and you still have internal issues --- you might want to check this out in private with a doctor and get some medication.
I am going to hazard a guess here --- but I would guess you are a White guy who does not drink or smoke either?
Minh N
Post subject: Re: Race doesnt matter
Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 00:51
Alumni
Joined: 07 Jul 2008, 15:18 Posts: 849 Location: Sydney, Australia
Bootcamp Graduate: Yes (BC: Sydney, Nov 08)
I used to have GAD and depression. I know how it is, best thing to do is get help.
_________________ We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. - Artistotle
AFCAleman
Post subject: Re: Race doesnt matter
Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 00:58
I did drink a lot, but not anymore. Just some Wine maybe twice a week.
I realized that being drunk wont get me out of my problems, it just adds potentially more problems while being in a more "active" or sometimes even more aggressive mode.
SE7EN
Post subject: Re: Race doesnt matter
Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 03:57
Hungry Ghost
Joined: 11 Sep 2011, 04:35 Posts: 5
Ben J wrote:
I don't believe ever hearing or reading on our website that it was easier for white guys.
Yes, you are correct on ugly men of all races with great game that get with gorgeous women, but how we Asian guys run game is merely different, not necessarily more difficult.
We have to play it differently because society (US) tend to mock us Asian. Look at how Asian American are portray in films, music, and many others. They make us look like we're some horny a** bastard, some nerdy & smart, small weeny, the nice guys that doesn't get the girls, etc. I think it's almost time we have our own Million Man March for our rights in this country. That's the reason why I was drawn to the ABC of attraction because this program was founded by an Asian guy and he would understand my point of view better. I still have my reserve about the program but if I don't take the risk, I can't reap the reward. I just hope the BC that I take won't be too crowded because I learn better in a small classroom. I hope teacher to student ratio are small.
mymeowcat, I would distracting myself with work and school too. When I was younger, I could easily ignore it but now I'm in the late 20's, the urge is harder to ignore. If you believe in evolution then it is probably my prime mortal instinct kicking in.
AFCAleman, cheer up brother. Great days are still ahead of us. The glass is still half full.
Minh N
Post subject: Re: Race doesnt matter
Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 04:29
Alumni
Joined: 07 Jul 2008, 15:18 Posts: 849 Location: Sydney, Australia
Bootcamp Graduate: Yes (BC: Sydney, Nov 08)
Quote:
We have to play it differently because society (US) tend to mock us Asian.
Everybody gets mocked, not only asians. I find it funny actually,
I'm in the Australian army and I see people from different states mock each other all the time. I even hear white dudes calling each other 'white dog!'. That's was an extremely racist things the native aboriginals used to call caucasions and now caucasions call each other that. LOL!
There's a german dude with us they call him Nazi, they call the red head Ginger, they call Tasmanians sister fuckers, they call me viet cong, they call the italian guy muslim. Big deal. And yes the guy's from different states give it to each other all the time about how much each other's cities suck shit.
It's even better when there's a white New Zealander we all fuck them over badass. It'll be white Australians mocking White New Zealanders
So what challenges do Asian's face that other men don't?
LOL Invade New Zealand commercial on Australian television.
_________________ We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. - Artistotle
Raigon
Post subject: Re: Race doesnt matter
Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 07:13
Warrior
Joined: 02 Jun 2011, 01:21 Posts: 404 Location: Adelaide, Australia
Bootcamp Graduate: Not yet
Minh is right. Also, technically, Asians are just as racist, if not more so than others. Have you even began to hear some the things we say of people of other races in the world (having resided in Taiwan, I have heard some of the nasty things they say about white people, too)? It goes both ways. If you've read history, you would have known that China and other countries regarded itself as superior and the center of the world, calling themselves the "Central nation" and calling other races "savages" and "barbarians" and no race has any culture except themselves. The western world holds power right now and thus are a bit arrogant. If the industrial revolution or rise of independent thought and revolution or whatever revolution happened in Asia rather than Europe, I'm pretty sure it would have been reversed, probably even worse, as we Asians are so clickish and all.
mymeowcat
Post subject: Re: Race doesnt matter
Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 11:49
Alumni
Joined: 04 Feb 2010, 00:19 Posts: 216
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: San Francisco, CA July 2010)
@ Aleman – I’m going to take some other guesses here…the point is that there could be something else going on in your inner game or something else going on in your head that PUA and “Game” was never meant to fix.
For example: religious issues. I know about two White guys in this category and basically religion taught something really bad into their heads. I think one of guys is “Catholic” and he probably mis-interpreted something off the bible or mis-understood some ideas, etc.
The other guy has issues arising from the fact his family was in a cult.
The other thing (which might even be related to the religious issues) is sexual issues of some kind. For example: something religious might say that you can’t have sex until marriage or sex is dirty but then something else conflicts with it (example a lot of there things say sex is good)..any culture that has any religion --- for that religion to continue --- its followers must “reproduce” some how.
I remember that even at a very young age (say early 20’s) you are supposed to be sneaking a peek at Playboy magazines and looking at girls --- but these guys did not. I know at some level you are supposed to be “politically correct” and not mention or do anything “sexual” but these guys took it way too far.
Another White guy I know basically came from an abusive family and I think there was some kind of divorce thing happening there which fills his head with all kinds of issues. If you came from a family like that --- it sends the message that there is no point to meeting women and marrying them since you are going to end up like your parents in nasty fights, etc….
I met another guy in the local lair that was a recovering drug addict.
I remember some Johnny Wolf posting about preparing for a boot camp that you should get rid of any of these demons before going in.
What I am trying to say is that you might have issues that are not related to “Game” or Pick Up.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum