Hi my name is BigPapa and i am a 17 year old Asian guy from a small city in Texas. Just like ya'll my dad wasn't around when i need him. All my life im with my Mom and my 2 evil sisters. I had to find the answer by myself. I found out about pick up arts randomly through the internet. Since then i was hooked and looked for every single information i can find about it. I read "The game" and "Mystery method". I even downloaded a ton of videos of Mystery and Style off the internet. I am what ya'll call a "knowledge junky". I did indirect for a while to a couple of girls in my school and it went ok(Im the only asian guy there and the rest are mexicans). btw my favorite routine was "the cube" . Well i got a few laughs here and there but it wasnt really me. I dont want to go all through those bullshit and i just want to get straight to the point. I wanna try the more ballsy one i wanna try direct. So a while ago i was at the fitting room in Hollister waiting in line and i saw this hot gray eyed blonde. Shes one of the girls that works there. I had a good body posture, I maintained good eye contact and i flashed my best smile. I complimented her on her style and after that i didnt know what to do. I just stood there and stared at her for a good 30 seconds but luckily she continued the conversation. She talked about random stuff and i was just like " yeah....uhu...yes."I didnt know what to say coz i dont know what method to follow. I love to go to a bootcamp and learn the abcs of attraction but im just too young and i dont have that much money. I really want to improve my game. Im the only one who's gonna spread the family's name. I wanna make a lot of cute asian babies i wanna master the art of direct game . Im sorry if this is too long but im really passionate about this. Id really appreciate it if someone explain to me the idea behind ABCs of attraction or if any of you guys have any suggestion to where i should go from here. I hope you guys could help me with this one. Thanks!!
Raigon
Post subject: Re: Im 17 years old and clueless
Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 05:28
Warrior
Joined: 02 Jun 2011, 01:21 Posts: 404 Location: Adelaide, Australia
Bootcamp Graduate: Not yet
Welcome to the forums, BigPapa. You're very lucky that you're still 17 years old and very young. I wished I started back when I was that age... things would've been easier for me. But it's no use crying over spilled milk, and it's best to enjoy what I still have.
To begin with, you may want to take a look at the article Johnny Wolf wrote to start everyone off on:
Most of the PUA vocabulary here is compiled by APB himself here cuz there's a lot of confusing acronyms, but as you said you've read up on some of the stuff already, it'll just be for reference.
For the process of the ABCs of attraction explained in a bit more detail from A-E, go to the "War Room" where you'll find all sorts of tactics and what they're all about.
I would also recommend reading field reports at the bottom to get an idea of how most of us approach - and our personal experiences, obstacles, goals, and achievements. You're not too young for the bootcamp. There's another guy who took the bootcamp who was in high school and it's highly recommended that you start at an early age to get that head start. Imagine what you can become and achieve at my age (23) if you start now. You'd be unstoppable.
And there are stuff you can only do in high school that I wished I did. I remembered that I used to dream of dating a cheerleader, kissing the attractive girl next door, going to the prom with the beauty queen (stupid, brainwashing, American teen dramas that gave me a lot of hope) and now I can't do that anymore because I'm no longer 17 (mind you, my 2nd GF was a beauty queen, but I never got to go to the prom with her, as she lived all the way in Germany and she was 15 when I was 18. She's the reason why I'm in love with brunettes, actually). I highly recommend the bootcamp when you can afford it, because it advances your game by 10 months in just three days (I'm taking it next May) and there are amazing Asian PUA's (J.T. can get a girl to come to him without saying a word. He's that amazing. There's also Johnny, William, and Gareth, who isn't Asian, but is just plain awesome). The most important thing is to go out there and just approach. You'd be surprised how many of us find just simply approaching an attractive girl will be. You can go ahead and write up field reports after you study up the phases and tell us what you did and how you progressed from phase to phase and where you have the most trouble.
My favorite opener is "Excuse me, I know this is a bit random, but I just saw you and I think ..... you are very cute/attractive/gorgeous, and I had to come over to talk to you. Otherwise I would have been upset at myself all day... Hi, I am ......" It conveys sincerity and shows you're genuine, plus she doesn't have to worry about you having ulterior motives or being wary, because you told her your intentions right from the start. Plus it's non-situational, which means you can use it in almost any setting without having to rely on observations.
Congrats at taking the first step to success with women at such an early age! I'm really envious. ==
Btw, make Half-Asian babies. They're better. =D
TheRealBigPapa
Post subject: Re: Im 17 years old and clueless
Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 11:50
Koi Fish
Joined: 25 Jul 2011, 17:02 Posts: 10
First of all, thank you for the reply it will really help me a lot.
Yeah i think you're right, i need to take a bootcamp to really see what its like and i would really love to meet APB and Johnny Wolf. But i dont really know how a 17 year old here in the U.S. can get into a club or
something. I think im gonna have to wait until i move to California for college(and the tuition is fucking expensive). Im gonna start saving as early as now and im gonna get my 1000 approaches before that day.
For now I'll follow your advise and practice on my direct game.
And yeah i meant to say Half-Asian babies =D and a lot of them.
Raigon
Post subject: Re: Im 17 years old and clueless
Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 12:50
Warrior
Joined: 02 Jun 2011, 01:21 Posts: 404 Location: Adelaide, Australia
Bootcamp Graduate: Not yet
You can try your hands at day game as well - there are a lot of potential girls for you on the street, in the supermarket, in the bookstore, at the coffee shop in your school. Doesn't necessarily have to be in clubs. In fact, I approach girls on buses. But you'll be turning 18 soon anyway, so you can hang on until then, right?
The_Jester
Post subject: Re: Im 17 years old and clueless
Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 15:22
Alumni
Joined: 31 May 2011, 22:04 Posts: 525 Location: Santa Monica, CA
Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: June 2011 in Los Angeles)
Literature and Curriculum obviously aren't the missing link for you.
Practice is.
Although you may not be eligible even for attending 18+ night clubs yet, soon you will.
So it's time to expand your social circle and meet some like-minded people, preferably community members.
Go here http://www.abcsofattraction.com/community/brotherhood-support-network-f51/ and if you haven't already, post a thread with your location and the nearest major city, calling out for all local wings in your area. Then browse other Wingman threads and reply to those that are geographically convenient. For quicker replies, PM the authors.
You may have to drive a ways to meet some of the fellas, but that's life when you're in a rural area. Make it your goal to find at least 3 friends near your age, with a mutual interest in sarging, by the time you're 18.
Also, although you're 17, you have the remedy in play already - Day Game. You can go to all of the public places during the day and run game there. Remember you don't need to be perfect. Failure happens but that is a blessing in disguise because it brings lessons.
Another thing to check out is http://www.meetup.com/ Here you can subscribe to groups in your area that meet for all sorts of extra curricular activities. Many of these are free. Take up a new hobby and your social life will flourish.
One thing I recommend, which you may very well find out Meetup.com is Improv classes. Although some cost money, others don't if you're able to find an improv group that meets just to play around. This will help tremendously with your ability to act and react without hesitation.
_________________ "Win the crowd and you will win your freedom." - Oliver Reed/Gladiator (2000)
Joined: 05 Aug 2011, 12:01 Posts: 68 Location: cleveland ohio
Bootcamp Graduate: LA Oct 2011
My advise to you is TRY ! Just get out of the house and make the effort. Sure you'll blow it at first, but common, any girl that gets pissed at you for telling her she's hot, is a social deviate anyway. You know what I learned at the LA Boot Camp ? That is ok to fail ! Now I say hello to everybody. Call it game if you like. I call it LIFE>
ucl09
Post subject: Re: Im 17 years old and clueless
Posted: 29 Oct 2011, 10:34
Hungry Ghost
Joined: 19 Jun 2011, 15:06 Posts: 3
You lucky bastard haha. I wish I had this stuff when I was 17
What everyone said is good advice. Also, since you're probably going off to college, also working become a well-rounded, social, cool guy.
This stuff works well in certain contexts and environments, but in college, social value and who you know is KING. So, focus on the basics such as knowing how to touch women, knowing how to talk to them/tease them/flirt with them, and being a sociable, cool guy everyone respects and wants to hang out with.
Also, you might find direct works better for you in time. From my experience, I started out doing day game and going indirect, but it seemed that I was generating zero attraction and had to transition a lot harder. Once I started going direct and not being ashamed of hitting on her, things started to open up.
malibu51
Post subject: Re: Im 17 years old and clueless
Posted: 29 Oct 2011, 10:38
Sage
Joined: 05 Aug 2011, 12:01 Posts: 68 Location: cleveland ohio
Bootcamp Graduate: LA Oct 2011
Any girl that gets pissed that your hitting on her is a bitch anyway.
TheRealBigPapa
Post subject: Re: Im 17 years old and clueless
Posted: 30 Oct 2011, 07:55
Koi Fish
Joined: 25 Jul 2011, 17:02 Posts: 10
Thank you guys for the advice. I actually started opening girls at malls and man this is fucking addicting haha. Its like a drug. I keep coming back for more. I cant believe how receptive they are to me. I started looking people in the eyes and smiling at them. My posture is getting better and my confidence is unbelievable. I learned not to focus too much on the techniques but actually be in the moment with that person. I recently got my fake id. so im gonna take a bootcamp for sure maybe this december in dallas. I need more practice and im not getting any in my high school. I dont wanna shit where i eat
Kode
Post subject: Re: Im 17 years old and clueless
Posted: 30 Oct 2011, 13:37
Koi Fish
Joined: 26 Oct 2011, 04:28 Posts: 11
You're already much more cluey than your subject line. It's good that you are having fun with it. People will be attracted to that positive energy that you give off, important in the first 30s you meet them. Keep it up.
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