Post subject: Re: I'm jumping into the deep end... (My new blog in LA)
Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 22:11
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Cesar,
Ralph, is it still acceptable to game other girls if you are out with a girl you're in a somewhat committed relationship with? I found that a lot of times, I feel like a loser when I'm out with this girl I'm with. She gets hit on all the time by guys and although she always ignored them and get back to me, it still drained the energy out of me and dropped my state big time..
She knows that I see other girls, but I just feel that it's not appropriate to game girls in front of her.
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I guess I should have made that a lot more clear. It is acceptable but not gaming them just opening them and just being that social guy. Your intent is not to game girls - what you are showing to your girl is that you are a fun/alpha/social guy who is just making new friends. So my suggestion is when you are out with her (and I am going to start doing this myself too, when I'm out with a chic) I will start to be just that social guy talking to girls and guys. Just to show how social savvy you are. Than just focusing on her. I dont know if this makes sense but that is what JT told me. When I wrote this field report I was a bit tired and now I can see some people reading it another way.
So dont game other girls in front of her just be that social guy who says hello to everyone and makes friends with everyone including guys. Let me know if this makes any sense to you.
Ralph
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Post subject: Re: I'm jumping into the deep end... (My new blog in LA)
Posted: 15 Sep 2010, 14:33
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Ralph Lore N wrote:
Cesar,
what you are showing to your girl is that you are a fun/alpha/social guy who is just making new friends. So my suggestion is when you are out with her (and I am going to start doing this myself too, when I'm out with a chic) I will start to be just that social guy talking to girls and guys. Just to show how social savvy you are. Than just focusing on her. I dont know if this makes sense but that is what JT told me.
Ralph
Ralph man!!! I do agree with JT's asssement but I feel it must be calibrated...I have thrown away dates where I went overboard and just gamed other chics while on a date....Also you have to keep in mind on the theory of value transference...
The Asian Playboy
Post subject: Re: I'm jumping into the deep end... (My new blog in LA)
Posted: 15 Sep 2010, 19:27
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Well, Ralph is unintentionally misrepresenting the situation. What I was pointing out was that in addition to the two girls that we had brought, I had pulled in both social circle girls as well as girls around us to sit down at a table (which we basically stole for free due to sheer momentum).
Ralph ignored all the girls to pay attention to his one girl, which I pointed out was coming off as needy. Ideally, he should have been socializing and having fun with ALL the girls and people, like I was. I would talk to my girl, his girl, the 6 girls with us, and then back to my girl. Other than one set of girls, I never actually left the immediate group to "game."
I made the Fun and all the girls came to me. I didn't actually need to do any cold approaches.
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Alright so I am VERY behind on my field reports. Good thing I remember past sarges a few weeks ago. Well it was one night when JT Asian Playboy sends me a text message to go out with him. Surely I am down for it. This was a Sunday night and it was really slow so we did not go out till like 11pm. We get to the venue and there was not that many sets. We are at the bar and JT sees this girl for me to open. GO!
This was a cute blonde girl all in her vullor workout clothes. So I go and open her.
A - Hey you are fucking adorable, I just had to come and say HI. Hey Im blah (totally forgot her name)
B - She asks me what do I do? I told her I get paid to fuck... (10 sec later) with peoples minds lol. We banter for a bit and then she leaves telling me to come by and say hi while she goes to find her friends.
Now its still early and JT and I are out having a smoke. Cutie and I see each other and I smile. She walks over to us and starts talking. She lights up her cig and talks for like a minute. She wasnt even done with her cig only took two hits and left.
JT told me total IOI damn I am not used to these situations with super hot LA girls lol. I killed the convo when she told me about some movie called Detroit Rock city and I asked her if she has ever been to Detroit before and the convo died down.
So I split from JT and hes doing his own thang and so am I. Not that many sets but its cool. Then another girl out smoking and I walk in and start talking to her. The convo is dying down and I just stand there shit! Oh well it happens. The night was alright not to well.
What JT noticed of what I need to work on is my conversational skills. He can tell that I wait for the girl to start talking to input things into the convo and that I expect her to talk. Which is true. So what I need to start doing is to just keep talking and talking. Another thing I need to keep doing is to start making statements rather than asking questions. He said it all takes time and practice in which I am doing.
Start: talking and just keep talking / make statements
Stop: waiting for the girl to have input in the conversation / asking questions
Overall it was a good night. I have been learning a lot going out and there is never a night where I did not learn anything new.
Till again...
Ralph
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Ralph Lore N wrote:
Start: talking and just keep talking / make statements
Stop: waiting for the girl to have input in the conversation / asking questions Ralph
I honestly have this same problem. It's a sticking point that I've been having. I've been trying to force myself to improv during conversation a lot infield. Still working on it. Like you mentioned, we'll get this with time and practice.
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