Did you go to medical/dental school to get quality pussy?

I have a burning question that has been plaguing me.

Firstly, several of my friends,UCLA and Yale and Loma Linda trained physicians and dentists, took bootcamp. High grade pussy was the dominant reason for them to graduate with honors and pull consistent straight A gpa's and get accepted to highly selective and prestigeous post graduate fellowships in elite specialties like orthopedic surgery, physical medicine and rehab,endodontics, nephrology, oral and maxillofacial surgery. During the advanced training, HB7-8 undergrads would routinely throw themselves at the mercy of these academic superstars.

Ironically, in the real world, the destitute, busboy,junior college dropouts are pulverizing my friends at the clubs in terms of bagging HB6-9's while my friends have to settle for the hogzilla or the left hand and box of kleenex.

this is not fair as my friends have paid thier dues. Now they're getting knocked down by the losers who couldn't pass remedial math if thier lives depended on it.


Did my friends waste thier time in school thinking it would attract high quality pussy?

How can my friends use their high end careers to attract high end HB's?
Is there a way to exploit an advanced MD or DDS degree to get high quality tail or did my friends waste 12 years of thier lives for nothing but a nice empty house, nice cars, big savings, empty bed, and greased palm?

If they took a bootcamp, why would they need to use their careers as a primary selling point?

Do they dress nice, work out, and generally take care of themselves?

So then instead of going to medical/dental school for 12 years to attract quality pussy, my friends could have just taken a weekend bootcamp?

It's too late because they already graduated from specialty training so is there any way to use thier super careeers as a super DHV?

BTW my friends dress well and behave relatively within normal limits.

Getting A++ Grades and graduating Honors is not paying your dues when it comes to women. Going to school and graduating is not a requirement for scoring HBs.

I would say YES your friends wasted their time going to school IF they went only to score pussy. If they actually went because they wanted to be doctors/physicians/dentist then it was well worth it. But if they think they can bribe a girl with a nice car and money then they are only going to end up with women who are into that and not them.

It takes a lot more than smarts to be successful with women. I am sure they will do fine in the long run they just need to aplly a different startegy when it comes to obtaining the women of their dreams.

From one Asian Man to another --- I believe there is such deep programming into our psyche that causes a lot of problems that I do not think either of you boot-camp grads can see.

First off --- a boot camp is only 3 days long…we have all been programmed since birth to behave in certain “lower value” social ways by our parents, society, etc. Three days will not correct that. What JT is trying to do is get us STARTED on a journey.

In other words – we are programmed to be this society’s engineers, doctors, computer guys so OTHER people can use these computers WE service to meet sexy people while driving on the roads and bridges ASIANS engineered so they can date and when then they have pregnancies/start families etc. that YOU (Asian doctor) will help them out at.

I own a company and have plenty of cash and can do ANYTHING I want and ANYWHERE (I’m early in my early 40 yrs) and here are some random thoughts from a guy who has banged WF HB8’s and above:

* Some of the BEST HBs I got was when I had low value jobs (or the HBs did NOT even know what my job is)! The best gals I banged was when I was an average Army guy, accounting clerk, or NOT know what my job was! MOST of this was before “The Game” even got published.

* You mentioned that when your friends were in their “advanced training” that undergrad HB 7 to 8’s would through themselves at these “academic superstars” --- clearly these “academic superstars” were “sexually” duds as well.

* I have a dentist cousin and I can tell he is really fracked right now and will be for life. He is even resorting to Latin American countries “secretly” hoping Latin women would be more “welcoming” to him than White or Asian Women!

* I have another cousin who owns an oil company but the best he can pull off is a status seeking Asian ugly “5”. WTF!!! He has to get an engineering degree, start his own SUCESSFUL oil company, become CEO to get a girl like that!!

* I have an engineer cousin and he married a WF fattie “5” who was a single mom! That was the best he can do!!

Remember that three days of boot camp will NOT change you into a dating superstar. Again --- what I believe the ABC team is trying to do is to simply get the average Asian Male started on a journey.

The “A” part is easy in some ways – but the “B” part is so difficult that I doubt many of you will get through that. If you can not get through the “B” part – you can NOT get into “C” which is where according to the ABC model is where you tell them you are a doctor.

A TIP HERE: If you are reading other books or watching other PUA material --- forget the neg theory and worry about the “B” part instead --- it is very powerful.

I believe that having a certain career and income is important but it is only 10% of the solution but most of us Asians have put 110% into it.

The most problems appear to be at the initial stages of A and B where the girl immediately stereotypes you an no matter what you do --- you might only get a “polite” laugh or response but the interaction quickly fades. IF you get past that AND kino and FLIRT well --- and get in to that C phase --- you are at least guaranteed a date.

Compare the tuition one pays for school to pursue those careers, to the tuition costs of 1-3 solid bootcamps. Chances are, the ladder would cost 10% or less of those universities.

Medical school may teach you the ins and outs of the vagina, but definitely doesn't bring you any closer to it. Plus I've already tried bringing a textbook into the bedroom.... chicks don't dig it that much.

My friends are going to kill thier parents for brainwashing them and ruining thier lives. They did all that work to become high value beta male provider/loser.

Erm... I hope this thread isn't targeted specifically at me, gentlemen =D. Because I love medicine and that's why I went to med school regardless of what my parents thought (my parents were actually against it, accumulating a mountain of debt and going away to study in a new country armed only with a student visa certainly wiped the smiles off their faces), though yeah they did push me pretty hard during my high school and college years and left me almost no time to socialize and now I'm 23 and single. So I know what you guys mean. Grr...

I just chose an occupation that I thought I'd enjoy (I like the hospital setting, I love saving lives, I love pitting human knowledge against the forces of nature using the combination of art, science and logic to combat disease, heal injury and at some extremes stop death). If money and girls came along with it, then great. If not, then fine, because at least I like what I'm doing and that's the main reason I chose it. No offense intended though, and none taken.

I chose medicine for my career because I want a job I love doing and also getting paid well for it. And I'm taking the bootcamp to have the skills to attract girls and increase my options for selecting girls of higher quality. For me, they're two separate things and two separate goals, though if I could use the former to help (not rely on) for the latter, then I wouldn't hesitate to do so, because some people are born with good looks. Some are blessed with charm. I'm not blessed with either so I'm going to need to use whatever edge I have. And it would certainly suck if I do have the benefits of career and let it go to waste without using it as an advantage, wouldn't you agree?

I certainly think being a doctor is a great DHV and will help you get the girl. I would never call going to medical school a waste. I believe having a good job will help you.

If you are looking for some outer game routine there he's a couple I can think of:

1) Peacocking --- I bet if you walk into a bar or some social setting with a stethoscope instead of some necklace --- it certainly would help you I bet it would get attention if you day game wearing your scrubs or the hospital badge....perhaps a great way to start a conversation

2) Try opening a girl or a set by saying something that implies you're a med student or doctor. Perhaps something like:

PUA "Are you guys with the medical students social night event?" <<NOTE --- it does not matter if there really is a medical students night out or not>>
HB: "Nope."
PUA: "OK...sorry for bothering you...blah, blah, blah"

I bet if you go with something as basic as that --- you WILL hook a girl or at least get a better response than if you went in as the standard everyday Asian Male because you are establishing very high value right at the very start.

Those are actually really good ideas, mymeowcat!

I always wear my hospital badge though it says "medical student" instead of of "doctor", which some interns have on THEIR badges and they JUST graduated! No one seems to notice it though, either that or they don't care =( , unless I accidentally dropped it and someone asks if they're mine, LOL, clumsy me).

Now the stethoscope on the other hand... that's a pretty interesting idea! And if there's an emergency situation, like what happened this March where I performed BLS (basic life support - just learned it), which is basically CPR for someone, I'll definitely need it on hand (plus it makes me look cool, jk). Even though I made a botch of it and looked like a clumsy, panicking idiot, I did save his life (and got a lot of attention from passerby's, a few female ones, too ^^ asking if I were a doctor and I said medical student. One of them said "close enough". Never thought to close with them, though, I'm still way too shy at this stage) , so it'll probably be good to have a stethoscope on me for those situations (who knows what may happen in a club like someone passing out from drinking or fighting). And plus the stethy looks pretty good on me, especially if I'm dressed up in formal clothing (makes me almost look like a doctor).

I'll bring those stuff to the bootcamp and see if the guys over there can't think of ways to make good use of it for me during the in-field portions. I just hope I don't lose my stethy during the club cuz I know it's a common to let a girl in the club wear some of your peacocking materials and I'm hesitant to part with something worth nearly a couple hundred dollars (Littmann's Cardio III).



I think I'll bring my scrubs to the bootcamp as well. Less costly and fun to wear, plus I can snatch a ton of those from our wards without anyone noticing and I'm less hesitant to let girls wear them for fun. As our senior years have been telling us for ages, scrubs are one of the best party materials ever.

For a moment there I was sort of scared that you guys were implying that being a doctor has more of a negative effect than a positive on cuz that would make me feel worse on top of taking the debt and binding myself to years of grueling training and practice. I went back and re-read what you posted and I realized you only meant people who enter these careers only for the sake of girls, kind of like people who always take Zen Buddhism to look cooler with the gals, but end up making a botch of it.

Thanks for the input