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 Post subject: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2008, 10:19 
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Why is it being moved again..why oh why Aug 29 was fine..come on APB change it back man..i can;t wait for oct I had everything set up


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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2008, 10:25 
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Cause you're the only guy attending it.

Help APB market the bootcamp by contacting the China Lair.

I'm doing my best to help but bear in mind most of my wingmen here in Beijing have strong affiliations with theApproach, as Asian Rake is a theApproach (Master the Vibe) coach, and many of his proteges are unwilling to help out a rival company.

Contact Angel Caido, but do so with an ABC crew's approval as well because Angel also belongs to his own company and is unwilling to allow advertisements.



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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 21 Sep 2008, 18:28 
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Btw, until ABCs of Attraction starts to take the Asian market more seriously, I dont think this bootcamp will occur.

Asianrake just recently updated his site and is transforming his whole site into "Power of Being Asian".

He is about to dominate the entire China market...



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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 21 Sep 2008, 18:33 
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Luckily, there are a lot of Asians in different parts of the world too! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 08:42 
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it's going to be tough competing (but not impossible) with David (AsianRake) in the Chinese market or in the Far East for that matter if you don't have anyone based out of that part of the world.

I say this because in addition to being a student of JT, I'm an alumni with theApproach as well and winged with him since he's from Toronto as well. He's taking the self improvement of himself to the stratosphere, I can't speak highly enough of the guy as he's probably the most well rounded guy I know. He's got some serious skills and a force to be reckoned out there since he's aligned with Christian Hudson and Sebastian Drake.

If you don't have anyone based out in China, Korea, Japan or Singapore, focus on your competitive advantage of catering to the North American market. Otherwise, be prepared to give dazzling performances when you're conducting bootcamps out there to give the ABCs of Attraction brand more visibility and credibility.

From what I know, he just started his journey to becoming a tenured professor, so he doesn't have the time to do bootcamps in North America that much.


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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 10:00 
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Thing is, China is still like 50s America - where the women aren't that sexually picky yet and AFCs essentially have no problem getting laid. That's why illiterate sex-pats with no Game can just waltz in now and still clean house. Right now, everyone is just focusing more on studies, career and getting a stable marriage & family. And only the elite have the time and money for leisurely pursuits like PU.. Whereas the vast majority are still lower-class grunts with little disposable income.

Only as China industrializes further and more wealth/power redistributes to women, feminism seeps in...as does more foreign sperm competition, will Chinese men THEN start feeling the need to learn Game as they lose more and more of their societal leverage over women.

I think at that point, there will quickly develop a HUGE need for PUA instructors. But right now, it's still about 15 years premature. AFCs aren't undateable there yet like they are here - and most people don't decide to change until they're forced to.



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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 10:08 
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Is this "Asian Rake" aka David really that good?

I have only been to Asia once, I was in a certain country and it seemed like girls were naturally attracted to me from their glances. I felt sexual tension right away. Unfortunately, I could not speak the language to save my life.

My hypothesis...in Asia, if you look Asian, there is a physical rapport that already exists b/c we look similar. But also as an American, maybe they wanted a passport to the US.

I hanged out with a lot of Asian expatriates in this country..and they had girls all over them (models, singers, actress, beauty constestants). So is there an AFC problem in Asia? It seemed like all the guys I was hanging out with were getting laid by hot women every week. We were riding Vespas around town every nite of the week having a good time. Even the guy who was married had 2 to 3 girls on the side. Even older men (60s) had no problem meeting beautiful women to date. What they hated was women always calling them to check up on them.

My expatriate buddy for example hook up with his hair stylist, hotel front desk, landlord, real estate agent, masseuse, bartender, condo neighbor...every cute girl he came in contact with ...he closed the deal with no effort. He got bored of getting laid!


Now, I can see why Asians living in their native country have so much confidence with women. Their women treat them like sexual males and they don't have the particular issues we face in the US.

So when you say dominate the Chinese market, how big is this market? B/C I don't see Asians in Asia having much problem getting laid. Why do you think the population is so large in China..ha ha

It seemed to me the hard part was staying "hard". :lol:

(I just read Alkamist's points and i guess it supports my theory)
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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 10:47 
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straycat wrote:
Even the guy who was married had 2 to 3 girls on the side. Even older men (60s) had no problem meeting beautiful women to date. What they hated was women always calling them to check up on them.

My expatriate buddy for example hook up with his hair stylist, hotel front desk, landlord, real estate agent, masseuse, bartender, condo neighbor...every cute girl he came in contact with ...he closed the deal with no effort. He got bored of getting laid!


Now, I can see why Asians living in their native country have so much confidence with women. Their women treat them like sexual males and they don't have the particular issues we face in the US.
Problem is, these "abusive excesses" by men exploiting social leverage there is going to lead to a HUGE BACKLASH once the tables finally turn, like they did in this country. Women will have been quietly building up resentment at "the system" for decades and when they finally flip the script...boy oh boy will there be PAYBACK! Chinese men will become scapegoated similar to the "White man's burden" here - and all foreign alternatives will suddenly appear automatically better by default. As if they already needed any excuses... :lol:

This in combination with the excess m/f ratio there are going to make things VERY ugly for hetero Chinese men trying to get laid 2 decades from now! And at point, the market for PUA instruction is just going to mushroom cloud.

If Chinese men were street-smart, they'd work on improving their brand rep and slowly start evolving their Game now, to avoid such blowback. But, I'm guessing they're not going to change until they're forced to...



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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 10:50 
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Alkamist,

The married guy and the older guy were locals...so they did not exploit the "expatriate" card.

But yes, in this particular country...there are a lot more women than men and most of the women were young and beautiful (18-25)..and lonely.

So these men have choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 10:54 
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straycat wrote:
Alkamist,

The married guy and the older guy were locals...so they did not exploit the "expatriate" card.
Ok, that's what I mean, though. These locals are earning a reputation for themselves as cheating spouses. Their women only put up with it for now because they have no other choice (due to the higher f/m ratio).

The tables always turn though. And when they do, women will not forget and look kindly upon their local men - given a choice.

If the men want to sleep around - fine. They just shouldn't get married and do it. They're giving themselves, and all of us who merely look like them, a bad name.



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