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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 10:58 
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I learned something funny from the old guy.

This was his social hierarchy theory:

in Asia: The man comes first, then wife, children, and the dog
in America: The wife, children, dog, then lastly the man.

He lived in America for a few months (to start his business) and made this observation and said F...It ..I am going back to my country.


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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 11:08 
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straycat wrote:
I learned something funny from the old guy.

This was his social hierarchy theory:

in Asia: The man comes first, then wife, children, and the dog
in America: The wife, children, dog, then lastly the man.

He lived in America for a few months (to start his business) and made this observation and said F...It ..I am going back to my country.
I agree, but the US used to be like that too. But because of liberal Jewish/lesbian/fug intervention and some callous abuses, women eventually got riled up and pissed off at men for it. And after only a few decades of angry feminism - it flipped over like it is now. Leaving American men the laughingstock of the world who fear their own women more than foreign "terrorists."

So, my point is that if China wants to avoid the same fate as the US, they better stop abusing their position and giving budding feminists any legit ammo. Cuz polar changes like these can easily happen within just 1 generation.

I think Chinese men already have it bad enough being saddled as the slavish "uber-providers" for society. Last thing they need is a feminist backlash on top of that right now, so they need to tread more carefully...



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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 11:13 
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Alkamist,

Back to my original thought, so at this time...why would there be a high demand to learn pickup skills in Asia right now? From what I witness, as long as you can muster the courage to ask a girl out on date ..there are not many obstacles to dating in Asia. Most of the girls in Asia will agree to go on at least one date to find out about you.

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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 11:52 
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straycat wrote:
Alkamist,

Back to my original thought, so at this time...why would there be a high demand to learn pickup skills in Asia right now? From what I witness, as long as you can muster the courage to ask a girl out on date ..there are not many obstacles to dating in Asia. Most of the girls in Asia will agree to go on at least one date to find out about you.

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I agree. Like I said, AFCs are still very dateable there. Therefore, there is no pressing "need" to evolve past that and learn Game.

Yet.

The more feminist a country becomes and the more diverse stiff sperm competition you face, the more Game you need. But right now, China is effectively neither. Hence, there are not guys desperate enough yet to line up for BCs. People don't fix things until they're broke.

So, I actually forsee feminism rising up in China to counter the existing male provider paradigm first, before a reactionary movement like PU. That's when the inherent weakness of provider game will really get exposed. Because if your leverage with women is based primarily on money, then when they no longer need your money - they will no longer need you, either. ;)

Of course, the economic collapse of other countries in the future might also conceivably give wealthy Chinese sugardaddies a new global pool of gold-diggers to choose from. So, who's to say? :D



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 Post subject: Re: Why;s the beijing bootcamp being moved again!!
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2008, 14:22 
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A few things

1) AsianRake aka David is an amazing man. I have met the guy personally and all summer I was sarging with his proteges

2) All of his clients are expatriate. I grew up as an expat (when I wasnt in America).

3) AFCs are dateable anywhere in the world.

I still disagree with Alkamist's Provider theory. Sorry that just doesnt fly with me.

And I still disagree with Alkamist's assessment of China having just been there and will continue to go there, as well as him including Asia means including Korea, which I think is possibly socially superior to US.

For the record, most younger guys have a lot of game in China. I learned a lot from them. I consider any guy I can learn from not AFC. I'm not that bad myself though?



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