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 Post subject: when to take bootcamp when there's too much work
PostPosted: 11 Aug 2009, 20:11 
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Hey all,

I definitely want to take a bootcamp. Especially since there's one coming to my hometown of Toronto in less than 2 weeks. But I'm concerned that:

1) I won't have enough time to prep
2) I won't have much time to practice afterwards

Here's the background info:

I just graduated law school and got a job with a big fancy firm (doesn't sound like much of a problem right... read on) I've only been at the job for a week and it's already getting pretty intense. I knew going in that this is what the job entails (that's why they pay so well), and first year's always tough.

After these 10 months of craziness (it's the probationary period when the partners decide whether they want to keep me on as permanent), life will become more controllable. I'm thinking that that may be a better time to do a bootcamp; I'll just take vacation then and do bootcamp with no job stress on me.

If I do it in 2 weeks time, I'll have put in some insane hours before and after just to make up for taking the Monday off... (and I've got a huge trial the week following the boot camp too). But I am also concerned about taking a bootcamp so late. (in 10 months... feels like forever).

If anyone can give me a bit of advice on this decision, that'll be great!

Cheers


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 Post subject: Re: when to take bootcamp when there's too much work
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2009, 01:04 
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Hey Advocate,

Glad to have you on here asking questions.


Advocate wrote:
Hey all,

I definitely want to take a bootcamp. Especially since there's one coming to my hometown of Toronto in less than 2 weeks. But I'm concerned that:

1) I won't have enough time to prep
2) I won't have much time to practice afterwards





1: That depends on how fast you can memorize some of the homework that we hand out prior to the BC. 2 weeks is more than enough for this. If you have good speaking abilities this will shorten the time.

2: Imo there is always time to practice even if you have a very busy schedule. We have had Doctors who work 100hrs a week who have found time to incorporate the skills that they learned over the weekend. Most people have found that the skills we teach can be applied to other aspects of life.


Advocate wrote:
Here's the background info:

I just graduated law school and got a job with a big fancy firm (doesn't sound like much of a problem right... read on) I've only been at the job for a week and it's already getting pretty intense. I knew going in that this is what the job entails (that's why they pay so well), and first year's always tough.


Congrats on the job with the firm.

We have had lawyer who have been in the same situation as you. From talking to them it seems like they are always busy. Also most have brought certain skills that made the BC easier such as being good leaders and public speaking.


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After these 10 months of craziness (it's the probationary period when the partners decide whether they want to keep me on as permanent), life will become more controllable. I'm thinking that that may be a better time to do a bootcamp; I'll just take vacation then and do bootcamp with no job stress on me.


That is always an option for you. Also we do offer discounts on the 2nd BC if you feel like you need a refresher course. This way you can take in as much information as you can during the first BC and not worry about nailing everything 100%. You can take as much as you can work on it piece by piece and then during the 2nd BC you can but it all together. We have had this option explored by some alumni and it has worked out for them.

Advocate wrote:
If I do it in 2 weeks time, I'll have put in some insane hours before and after just to make up for taking the Monday off... (and I've got a huge trial the week following the boot camp too). But I am also concerned about taking a bootcamp so late. (in 10 months... feels like forever).

If anyone can give me a bit of advice on this decision, that'll be great!

Cheers


We have had some guys who either had to work or catch a flight leave a little early. by early I mean they stay atleast 3/4 of the night. This is an option you have. Sunday (night in the field) though is still as important as the first 2 days. Some guys make big improvements and get past many mental obstacles on Sunday night.


Would it be possible to get a half day on Monday? So you would have to come in around 12pm?

Worst case scenario something out of your hands comes up and you cant make it Sunday night we can prorate.

How are you in the field? so we can see how Sunday night will effect you.
You can take a look at the syllabus here: http://www.abcofattraction.com/power.php

Also remember that there will be other people attending, you can keep in touch with them exchange notes after and fill in the blanks.


Thanks for posting and feel free to ask any questions that you may have.



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 Post subject: Re: when to take bootcamp when there's too much work
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2009, 01:14 
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As much as I am advocate of a bootcamp, my opinion is to not take the bootcamp until you have time to go out at least 3-4 times a week. This is to make sure you get the most out of it.

I think the bootcamp will open your eyes to what is possible and expand your reality, but you will only get as much out of it for as much effort as you put in to it. This includes post bootcamp as well. So, the chances are that you will forget a lot of the things that you learn unless you are able to practice them. The key to growth is frequency. You need to pound what you learned in bootcamp into you by doing approach after approach after approach!

Prepping isn't that important (my bootcamp mate didn't prep at all! LOL), but knowing your sticking points definitely is. What are you not comfortable with? What do you want to improve upon? What is it that you want to learn? etc.

Until you're willing to make time to work on your skill set with women, I don't think you're ready for this bootcamp. You can always incorporate it your life in other ways, but for it to be most effective I think you should take it when you are ready to make that change in your life.

Either way, good luck with your decision!
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 Post subject: Re: when to take bootcamp when there's too much work
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2009, 12:18 
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Bro, as with almost everything in life that means something to you, there is no better time than NOW. And I can empathize with your situation . . . . I am a practicing attorney here in Los Angeles, at a law firm with 800+ attorneys. Although I am four years removed from law school, I can still remember my first year of practice like it was yesterday. Yes, first year is TOUGH, don’t get me wrong. But here’s the thing . . . . . there will ALWAYS be competing interests in your life as you progress through your career!! Let’s say you impress your supervising partner with outstanding legal work during the next 10 months, guess what’s gonna happen? He’s going to reward you by assigning you EVEN MORE WORK!!! My point is, you will have a lot going for you during your professional career, and the first thing you’re going to have to learn is how to maintain a proper work/ life balance given all your professional commitments.

Ask yourself the same question that I asked myself before I signed up for my bootcamp: “How important is it to you to improve your dating and pick-up skills?” If you answered “very important” like me, you will FIND a way to do the bootcamp amidst your first year challenges. Yes, it is going to be TIRING to maintain your billable hours while doing the bootcamp . . . . .but then ask yourself that question again . . . . . . “How important is it to you?”

Furthermore, you can’t let the law firm culture consume your life . . . . TRUST ME. You need to maintain your own life outside your work, whether it be outdoor activities, working out, hanging out with friends, dating, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: when to take bootcamp when there's too much work
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2009, 20:44 
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Bro, make time.

Like all things in life, the best goals are measurable and achievable ones that are set in a pre-determined amount of time.

Is a week to talk to 5-10 strangers attainable? Yes.
Is a week to familiarize yourself with 2 openers a attainable? Yes.
Is a week to spend 30-60 minutes reviewing cool things about yourself attainable? Hell yea!

Will you start on these goals if you don't give yourself a real deadline? I don't know about you but, I would have trouble with it.

When I was studying for the GRE's, I didn't really study until I had signed up for the test. Same thing for my engineer's exam. When I wanted to get more fit, I didn't really do much until I signed up for a 5k run.

In each of these cases, I made a monetary and emotional investment, and I have had no regrets over any of them, including signing up for bootcamp.

That's the direct answer to your question.

And to address the question for after the bootcamp, I'd answer the question a little bit differently:

"When is it a good time to start chasing tail and doing so more effectively?" NOW!

If you are looking to do this, and have already been thinking about it for a while, chances are you are unsatisfied with something in your life. Do you really want to continue to live that way? You have to look deep down inside and see yourself for who you are and who you want to be. I'd imagine you turned to the ABC's of Attraction for a reason.

You seem to have an idea of where you want to go, the bootcamp is a great map and compass to get you there. Good luck, whatever you choose.


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 Post subject: Re: when to take bootcamp when there's too much work
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2009, 08:25 
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Well, here's what one of your fellow Canucks had to say about that:


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