Only for clubs...?

Hi,

Are the techniques taught at ABC mainly applicable to club venues? I personally don't frequent clubs and mostly try to talk to women in quieter places like coffee houses, libraries, even on the street. Are there any outings to places other than dance clubs for field work? I would love to know how to up my game, for example, while just walking along the street and spotting an HB. Plus I think the opportunities for immediate feedback and critique would be greater than in a noisy, crowded club.

So why no field work in other venues?

And here's a really stupid question: I can't wear contacts. They bug my eyes too much. Do Asian guys with glasses have zero chance with HB's? Is Lasik mandatory? I hate lasers!

thanks!

No. They can be used in Day Venues, Night Venues and Life.
William has a great report on how he translates the ABC model and Applied it to Work(Interviews).





There are Day Game Workshops held In Los Angeles and New York by Me and William.

During the Day Game Workshop we focus on going Direct and connecting with the possible girls of your dreams. We cover how the ABC model is used and how it is applied during the day.



It all depends... Where is your game at?

If you have trouble even looking, smiling and maintaining eye contact then that would be a place to start.



Feedback is key but IMO what you practice and the work that is taught during the BC is just as key. The feed back that you get is equally as informative during the night or day.


There is.




It is not mandatory.



If you have any other concerns feel free to ask and I will get to it as soon as I can.

Hey Bodhisattvas,

Thanks for your reply. Both you and Kevin Feng have been very helpful.

Here's another question and my biggest concern:

I've heard a lot about how women are getting savvy to PUA tactics, that they're taking a special pleasure in spotting "routines" and shooting a guy down. On one website I even saw women sharing tips on how to spot a "PUA" and publicly warning guys that they were on to them.

Basically there seems to be an excess of PUAs out there, all of them using the same approaches at the same clubs. Not hard to see why women can see through them and cut them to pieces. Neil Strauss mentioned the exact same problem at the end of his book, "The Game" where he himself became a template for a PUA clone army.

So is there a real danger we may have reached the tipping point? Are there too many of us who are all dressing and talking the same? All of this only makes me more self-conscious to learn the "routines."

Look forward to your input.

No Problem.


I don't see how this is a problem. IMO this is great...If i go to a club or am out on the streets i know a women can spot a great guy easier because of this. Plus if I get called out on it I am 100% going to respond to her in an honest fashion. I myself as a man am not going to make excuses for my desires. I want to end up with women that are 100% quality so i have to but myself out there and there is no shame in that.





Not exactly, there aren't an excess of PUAS out there. Just a bunch of AFCs who think they know what they are doing, but in reality women know this and smell it a mile away.

In the ABCs BC we teach you how to:

1. Run and indirect opener that is unique to the ABCs. Its an opener that is not online and only used by a few of our alumni.

2. How to create your own individual natural opener, so its congruent to you.

3. We teach Direct/Kamikaze approaches.

As you see most of the people who use the same openers that are popular online usually want something that is magic pill-ish and don't understand why it works, so they never move past it.



I don't know many people that dress like me, APB, William, or Kevin...Here at the ABCs we don't pump out clones.

A tipping point to picking up women? Its been going on for 764242 years (well maybe not that long lol).

krazykat,

Could you post the link to that website where girls are sharing with other girls how to spot PUAs? I would like to add some more tips for them to utilize.

Seriously, I'm going to have to go with Ozzie on this one-- it is a GOOD thing if girls are catching on to pick up terminology and routines. All that serves to do is make it easier for ABC of Attraction students to meet them. We only use routines during the first night of the bootcamp, and it's only there as a point of reference-- from that night forward you will never use another routine ever again because we help you develop openers that are custom tailored to your life, using a structure that we know will work (because we all use it). A structure is different from a routine: A routine is a script that you download off the internet, memorize, and recite. A structure is a way of presenting information about your own life. Not my life, not Ozzie's life, and not the life of some guy on the internet. It's your life!

How does this make it easier for ABC of Attraction students to meet girls? They know right away that we are talking about stuff that is real-- not stuff that is downloaded off the internet or was written by someone else. In the case of ABC of Attraction students, there's no "tactic" to be "savvy" to, unless you call "being yourself" a tactic.

-William

Hey William. I posted a response earlier, but it didn't show up, so I'm posting again. I guess this site is kinda' weird sometimes. Anyway, it's been a little while since I saw that site with those chicks. But I think it was on Yelp for San Fran, but not sure about the subforum. I believe the thread started with a woman who complained about PUAs over-running the city. But probably if you googled women and complain and PUA you'd find a bunch of places.



I'm not sure how that's a good thing. I'd be pretty embarrassed myself to discover that a girl had me pegged for a PUA: "Oh, I know what you're doing! It's just like in that book! hahahahaha!"

BTW, that's a cool site you've got running. I actually posted a question in your Fashion section.
And that leads me to another question --

What is the cut-off age for doing a BC? I'm headed towards the horrible 4-0 and don't want to be the odd man out in a group of 20-somethings. Kinda' like some aging prof trying to join a fraternity? Anyway, that's why I'm changing my moniker to: OldMan. Now excuse me as I reach for my geritol and prune juice...

So you are saying that you are embarrassed when picking up???


Sure at first you learn what to say, but that is just a stepping stone. After you have some experience in interacting with people you start to flourish, your personality starts to come out. After that there are no routine...there are no lines from a book.




We have worked with guys who are 40 and older. Your not some aging prof trying to join a freternity... I think your missing the big picture. There is no need to worry about that.

Are you getting close to 40?

I just turned 39. Take the boot camp. You won't regret it.
Right now I'm dating a girl 12 years younger than I am.

When you take the BC you'll wish you took it earlier in life.