Newbie Thinking about taking BC BUT

Hey whats up guys
I am thinking of taking the NYC bootcamp (jan 09). I have extreme AA and major issues regarding women, but I want to change me life. As I type this, tears are flowing down my face because this year is almost over, and I still have not made any positive changes regarding my life... I hate this aspect of myself. I hate it the pain is unbearable. That is exactly why I want to take this BC. However, the cost of it is a bit out there for me but I think I can barely manage to make it (I am a university student). My question is for those who have taken the BC before: how much additional cost have you had to incur aside from the fess of the BC?

Acebingo2006,

The only things I spent money on outside of tuition was money for taxis, and general spending money totaling about $125 (depends on city). The money for taxis was about $7 bucks per ride (most of the venues were near the lecture location), and my additional out of pocket expense did turn out to be about $125.00. However, the additional expenses are an optional choice that you and your fellow students can make.

On the third day of the bootcamp, I got some fashion advice from my instructors, and I bought some clothes. Again, that's optional. The advice is part of the tuition, but it's up to you if you want to use it and actually buy stuff.

-William

Ace,
Welcome to the boards.

BEFORE you take the BC, you have to get your AA under reasonable control. It sounds like you're ready to make positive changes in your life. There's no need to hate yourself, we've all been through that and it's counterproductive to anything in life.

It doesn't actually cost anything to talk to a pretty girl. During BC, I would say that you may want to bring some extra money or brown bag your lunches/dinners. Forget Xmas presents and start saving for your BC.

Please introduce yourself to the boards.

Soory about being rude...
Let me introduce myself
My name is AJ
I am 21 years old
I attend Binghamton University but I will be back home for winter break in NYC...My love life is pretty much non-existant and I lost my virginity last years through methods not deemed legal according to the US constitution lol but hey I was desperate and I did not know at that time that PUA existed. anything else feel free to ask me.

Hey Ace

Feel free to PM me to hang out, I can let you know what I was taught during BC, and what I've been working on, and we can even do some approaches together. I am assuming you are in the NYC area (I am in Queens). It'll probably be beneficial if we can get your AA under control before BC. I can't promise to "teach" you anything, but I am willing to share my experiences, do some approaches with you around, and break down certain things.

Welcome to the Forums.

Hello Ace,

Welcome aboard, thanks for sharing who you are with us and having the willingness to change your life.


There is a good amount of thought that comes to play when one is about to pull the trigger and take a bc.

Here at the ABCs would love to see you as one of our alumni...But what we would enjoy even more is you as a successful person/individual especially with women.

Remember getting a LTR, ONS, SNL, or what ever you want is just a by product of who you are and the lifestyle you live.



I am glad to hear that you want to change your life.

But ask yourself
1. Is the BC a step that I am taking as I am changing who I am and the life I lead?
2. Am I just going to take a BC to avoid the pain that the life I LEAD at them moment is causing?




We have had college students attend our BC, but if you feel like the BC might be to much of a financial burden then wait a couple of months.

This will allow you to accomplish:
1. Get rid of some of your bad habits
2. Save up for it
3. Work on your AA
4. Begin developing a better lifestyle

Feel free to ask question there are a great group of guys who have been in your shoes ( I think we all have at one point).

Change takes time there is no over night cure. Its going to take hard work and dedication but in the end its all worth it. You are still young and have a lot of time to improve so might as well take your time and do it right.

thank you for your kind words
as for taking BC, I don't view it as a quick fix to stop my pain. I want to change myself permanently and I have been thinking about it for a good period of time. I will wait a couple of months and save up in order to not be financially burdened by the BC.
Even though I have a lot of negatives in my life, I also have many positives. For example, sense of humor is second nature to me. Ofcourse claiming that here is probably (rightfully) going to make many doubt me but not only have I done stand up comedy a couple of times, but I can make women laugh easily at any time. That is a skill I learned in high school, and I believe that is one of my biggest asset. It's funny I was just reading the game today and the author talks about turning your assets into picking up women. ex: ross jeffries uses hypnosis, mystery is a magician, I think if I ever become good with women, I will have to incorporate humor into it somehow.
So why do I suck with women so much? there are a multitude of reasons... but my strict parents have to be up there. They never let me have a social life EVER and now that I have moved to college, I am like wtf? How does one actually go about being socially competent? How does one hit on a girl? Because I have NEVER done that stuff before. Anyways before this turns into a really lame book, I just wanna say that I am glad I found this pick up stuff.
But for the winter break, I wanna find a wingman who I can actually chill with and what not. I am willing to even pay, but I have never seen this picking up stuff before and I wanna do some approaches so I can at least get some experience. Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

Acebingo,

It is great that you are have humor as your asset. Just remember to not hide behind it when you want to express your interest with women you are attracted to.

A lot of us have a bad of habit of hiding behind our humor or using it a safety blanket. Including myself.

SC

ace,

If you'd like some additional perspective on one Asian American man's struggle (mine) getting over self-imposed mental barriers (http://www.betterasianman.com/blog/?cat=19) and clashes of cultural values (http://www.betterasianman.com/blog/?cat=17), I'd encourage you to read some of the essays on betterasianman.com. Just go to the right-side navigation bar and see the "categories."

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions, and best of luck to you in your journey.

-William

Hey Ace, welcome to the boards. I think your honesty and genuine plea for help makes me and alot of others want to really help you.

In terms of money on the bootcamp itself, make sure you do have enough to cover cab fares, food, club cover, and alcohol if you intend on drinking.

I completely understand your frustration, 6 months ago that was me who sat at home crying and feeling sorry for myself.

Going into the BC I did have high AA and hadn't cold approached in 3 years but I knew in my mind that all I needed was someone to push me into doing it. I believe the cold approach is the first step to meeting new women and also new friends and that's why I believe the BC can be very beneficial to changing your life. Just growing the balls to approach over those 3 days can boost your confidence in other areas of your life.

I believe it's okay to have high AA going into the BC because most of us did, but be WILLING to approach. Remember: Courage is when you're scared to death, but you do it anyway

The BC will not be easy. In fact it will be fucking hard. Second day in, I guarantee you will be feeling like "Man I don't think I need this, it's not worth this pain. I'd rather go home to my comfortable life as an AFC". I know I did.

I think Ozziesaurus Mex gave the best advice, don't rush into this, keep reading more material and keep improving your lifestyle first.