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 Post subject: Am infuriated by this article...
PostPosted: 11 Jul 2010, 03:32 
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I am very enraged after reading this blog/article. These are just facts about AM-WF relationships, and why they rarely work in North America, compared to other countries like Europe and russia. Anyways, I am willing to persevere and not let the stereotypes harm my "game".


Why USA is the worst place for Asian men who like white women

Though Asian men who prefer white women have it tough, nowhere is it
worse for them than in the good ol' USA. There, Asian men are
considered the least attractive, least desirable, and least manly of
colored men. Even Hispanic and Black men are preferred by more white
women than Asian men. And of the Asian men with white women, almost
100 percent of them are with average/plain looking types.

To put it bluntly, at least 90 percent of white women in America (in my
estimate), view Asian men as unattractive, unmanly, asexual,
undesirable, not in their league, and simply of zero value to them,
even for friendship or non-business social acquaintance. They may talk
to them or socialize with them if it comes up, but they will never
approach them, and remain distant and cold toward them, not wishing for
there to be any chemistry at all, even if they meet one whom they have
a lot in common with. Simply put, at least 90 percent of white women
in the USA are prudish, asexual, and anti-social toward Asian men.
They don't even like them as friends, even if they have a lot in
common, for they are zero value to them, completely outside their
social league as well as dating type. To them, Asian men are not even
"in the game" and are of no factor or consideration to them, not
even worth their personal time (except in business or work situations).

Somehow, the genetic mating instincts of white women reject the looks,
qualities, and essence of Asian men. Their instincts tell them that
Asian men are unmanly and not brawny to them, but are a bad match,
apparent by their actions, behavior and vibe toward them. Heck, even
sexually active sluts, whores, white trash women, "easy women" and
nymphomaniacs are prudish toward Asian men, making them the ultimate
losers of the dating scene, whether they like it or not.

Only Asian men know what I mean about this prudish vibe white women
project at them, which telegraphs to them that there is to be a
distance between them which insures that any association between them
is purely superficial and on an as-needed basis. Furthermore, this
prudish vibe also delineates that no matter how much they have in
common or how compatible they are personality-wise, there is to be no
chemistry or spark between them.

And even among the white women who date Asian men, they seem to
unusually dump them rather quickly and suddenly, in a very cold
non-involved manner, as if the relationship had been hanging on a thin
thread all along, with no emotional investment on the part of the white
woman. It's as if the white woman, even if she likes her Asian
partner or is attracted to him, has something in her subconscious
instincts that cause her to eventually reject the Asian man anyway, and
once she does, all feeling she had for him seem to just turn off like a
light switch.

White men and especially white women do not and can not relate to the
predicament of the Asian man, of course, since a decent looking white
woman is treated well and considered desirable by most people
everywhere she goes around the world. In fact, any Asian man as well
as most men of color can tell you that at a service establishment such
as a restaurant or cafe, they are treated much better when they are
with a white woman, than when they are alone or with non-white company.
They are given better service, the staff are more attentive and
talkative with them, more personable, etc. Also, strangers come up and
talk to them more often when they are with a white woman too. There is
no question therefore, that racism is still a part of us despite our
modern age of political correctness and civil rights reforms.

Among the other colored minorities, blacks seem to relate best to the
predicament of Asian men, due to the immense amount of persecution
they've gone through in America that leads to similar inferiority
complex problems (what most don't know though, is that blacks in
England, for example, do not have the inferiority complex that blacks
in the US do, for Britain is more evolved in this aspect). However, in
terms of dating/love life, black men are even still better off than
Asian men, for there are far more white women with fetishes for black
men (and their legendary reputation of being well-endowed) than there
are for Asian men.

This is why Asian men who desire white women are in the WORST position
in America in the dating/social scene, and have the most vacant love
lives. They simply aren't "in the game" and are a non-factor to
white women in general. But when Asian men who like white women
complain about all this of course, the victim-blaming mentality of
Americans leads ignorant people to accuse them of having a bad
attitude, having a "victim-mentality", being too shy, or wrong to
try to date outside their race (nevermind the fact that white men can
easily date outside their race). All these are typical lazy copout
excuses by those who can't relate or accept injustices, and they miss
the real issue of course, which is that most white women (whatever
percentage you want to put on it), are asexual, prudish, distant, and
anti-social toward Asian men.

On the other hand, white women outside of America are far LESS racist
toward Asian men. Though it can't be denied that anti-Asian
attitudes among white women exist outside the USA, nevertheless it's
still far less in comparison. While Asian men who meet white women
abroad notice this difference quite readily, white men do not notice
the reduced racist factor, though they may notice other non-race
related differences between white women abroad vs. in the USA.
Incidentally, from reports and testimonies brought to my attention,
Asian men do best with white women in Russia/Ukraine, and France (I
don't know why France, but ex-naval men have noted to me that Asian
American men there report having a far better time with the women there
than white American males do, which is remarkable.)

And of course, white women cannot relate at all to this, for they can
easily find friendly men who are interested in them, in ANY country,
which allows them to be as picky as they want, or tailor their love
life any way they want. Asian women though, can relate to some of the
racism against Asian men, but nowhere near the same degree, for they
still seen as desirable and attractive in US culture (and by many white
men), and hence have nowhere near the oppression and inferiority
complex that Asian men have.

In fact, there is a huge gap between the understanding of Asian men and
white women when it comes to people abroad being more sociable and
friendly. I have learned this from personal experience. When an Asian
man claims that people abroad are more friendly to him, he is referring
to the far less racist attitude and vibe against them from white people
(especially from white women), thereby allowing him to be himself and
flourish naturally without feeling like he has to compensate for some
deficiency or dealing with a culturally given inferiority complex. But
since white women don't deal with these issues, they cannot relate, and
are instead confused by this claim, for their experience is that many
people everywhere are interested, open, and sociable to them to similar
degrees. If they are decent looking, they can get action anywhere they
want, anytime they want, for there is always a supply of interested
people available to them, thus they are always "in the game" if
they choose to be. Ironically, often they are so picky and particular
that they elect not to be in the game. They have it way too easy to
relate to what an Asian man goes through. (Their understandable
complaint abroad, of course, is that they are not given the upperhand
and power that they are used to in the US, hence the fall from power
can put them in shock)

Sadly, a typical Asian man's life is simply BORING and BLAND in the
USA, unless he has low standards and ambitions. He doesn't get the
kind of ACTION that normal people get, he's rarely "in the game"
or of any value socially. And if he complains about it, few who are
non-Asian can relate to him, though blacks tend to relate best to his
predicament. Simply put, they are forced to lead lives devoid of
ACTION and STIMULATION. Their lives are strictly limited to SCHOOL and
WORK, where they can at least excel and prove themselves useful in some
way, in an area where the law protects them from racism.

While some Asian men can accept this predicament, if their ambitions
are strictly limited to career aspirations and Asian women, others who
are like me - expressive, ambitious to obtain higher status and achieve
greatness, wishing to be desirable, requiring action and stimulation in
their lives to grow, and attracted to white women, etc. - cannot accept
this horrendous predicament for us. And therefore, that's how someone
like me is forced to take extreme measures, like going to Russia/Europe
and having the adventures chronicled on my site, since after all, as
the saying goes, "extreme situations require extreme measures".

In America, Asian men are made to feel like HALF A MAN compared to the
standards of a Caucasian male. The good qualities of Asian men are NOT
appreciated socially or culturally, only in the workplace since their
hard-working diligence contributes to profit
. In the states, the
typical qualities of Asian men - kindness, tenderness, gentleness,
intelligence, diligence, efficient thoroughness with details,
attentiveness to others' needs, loyalty, commitment, etc. contribute
NOTHING to their social status or worth. Hence, it's very easy for
Asian men to feel naturally alienated.

I hope all this sheds light on my situation and the predicament of
those like me, even to those who cannot personally relate, so that
others can better appreciate my valor, motivations, and aims.

Winston
http://www.geocities.com/wwu777us


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http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive ... 00080.html



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 Post subject: Re: Am infuriated by this article...
PostPosted: 11 Jul 2010, 04:05 
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Oh.please,I know who wrote this. Not even a second I want to waste reading any of his bs.


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PostPosted: 11 Jul 2010, 05:13 
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this winston wu guy is a complete loser, unworthy of pity. a pathetic embarassment to asian men everywhere.

he's old, naturally unattractive, pudgy. no fashion sense. just an absolute retard unworthy of any attention


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PostPosted: 11 Jul 2010, 07:22 
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I hate this article. I dont' know why i put it here. One part of it that I find true though.

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The good qualities of Asian men are NOT appreciated socially or culturally, only in the workplace since their hard-working diligence contributes to profit



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PostPosted: 11 Jul 2010, 16:00 
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This Winston is known to pay for sex. He is a Sex Tourist and a little crazy...literally.
Ignore his blasphemy..the article is irrelevant.


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PostPosted: 11 Jul 2010, 16:05 
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That article is BS.. I wouldn't like it either.

For some reason and you know this: modern day main stream media has no problem using white guys and asian guys as the pundit or punch line of any jokes. It's because they know that the racism card will be played for any other minority or race.

Confession: Do you know that I grew up thinking that ALL Asian people walked around with a camera speaking really quick and getting excited about everything? The 80's movie stereotype portrayed that belief to many.

Truth: I know no one more than Latin people that take photos LIKE CRAZZZZY!

I really do think this contributes to the "tight ass", "nerdy" or "weak" stereotypes commonly found which is never portrayed towards latin and black men. They may portray bad or gangster, but as we know that doesn't carry the same stigma.

But, anyone can overcome that stereotype as an individual by simply standing above and beyond it.

Anyways, forget this crap. I mean if you are on a mission and need to join an activist group or a non-profit then by all means go do that.

As far as improving yourself goes.. accept it and roll. I usually ROLEPLAY and poke fun of the stereotypes that most of my friends from other ethnic backgrounds believe about white people. They love me for it....

As far as white women go... you have to realize they are historically prized women that have been able to have their cake and eat it to. That creates a challenge for any excuse we could all come up with.



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PostPosted: 12 Jul 2010, 07:33 
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Very few people have an understanding of dating and relationships which hasn't been formed from preconceptions and misconceptions. i've been studying this forever and still don't understand what the fuck it's about. There's something to be said for not spending your valuable time reading other people's opinions and, unfortunately, the internet has given every yahoo on the planet a venue to publish his opinion next to respected and accomplished people. The internet can lick my balls.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2010, 03:00 
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Hey Guys!

I just read what Winston Wu had to say and I’ll play a little Devil’s Advocate here. I can see what he is saying and I’ll say that everything he said is TRUE BUT IT IS ALSO EQUALLY USELESS.

Stereotypes exist for a reason – they are “usually” very accurate and most Asians do reinforce the stereotype. Granted…our parents, culture, physical size, etc. has placed upon us a stereotype that has no social value. BUT I believe stereotypes are there for a reason and that is: to serve as “short cuts” to our judgement mechanisms. We all rely on stereotypes to make out value judging systems simpler.

What Winston is doing is that he is SEEKING attraction rather than GENERATING attraction. He is actually travelling the world to find women who like Asian Men. If you know how AFC and beta most Asian Men are --- it will be hard to find women who are interested.

When I go to clubs and bars I find I am the only Asian Male there..but I “represent” and pull. Winston is still in a beta frame BUT I present myself as Alpha and it works. He is simply going to places where there are less beta Asian guys (thus less negative publicity) and finding a warmer (or uncertain response)...where as where I live – there’s a lot of Asian Male “beta” publicity” I will simply punch through the resistance by GENERATING attraction. I simply demonstrate that I am NOT like most Asian Men --- It is just that the other 99% make me look bad. Sorry – sad but true. I show them I am the exception to the rule 8O

As matter of fact I turn down more WFs than accept. I have WFs try to open and close on me but I turn them away because they are not up to my standard.

The stereotypes are just “rules of thumb” for a WF --- even they know that is not absolute law. If you do a good strong first impression you can bust through it.

I can see Winston has studied this topic extensively and he probably even took a few PUA courses but in his inner core he is still following his old Asian stereotypical programming and his core has not changed. For some of us --- the PUA experience has changed out “core” self and we have experienced a “transformation” into more powerful and confident beings (although it seems very uncomfortable sometimes because somehow we feel that a powerful, confident, attractive, high value being is not congruent with being Asian Male).

In response to Winston’s comments about how most AM/WF relationships are just hanging by a thread right from the start: After studying all sorts of PUA material --- I have forgiven the WFs that dumped me or placed me into the friend zone. I understand now. I am actually surprised they even gave me a chance (some of which even moved in with me)! :mrgreen:

What Winston Wu wrote is true --- but it is NOT the complete story :mrgreen:


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mymeowcat wrote:
I just read what Winston Wu had to say and I’ll play a little Devil’s Advocate here. I can see what he is saying and I’ll say that everything he said is TRUE BUT IT IS ALSO EQUALLY USELESS.

What Winston is doing is that he is SEEKING attraction rather than GENERATING attraction. He is actually travelling the world to find women who like Asian Men. If you know how AFC and beta most Asian Men are --- it will be hard to find women who are interested.
Good point. PUA wouldn't have evolved here in the USA to teach u all how to generate more attraction if his points weren't all valid, lol.. :D



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