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 Post subject: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 04:18 
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Yello~ welcome to my journal. I've decided to post one thread for all my FR instead of writing multiple threads and spamming the forum.
Read, comment, critique and enjoy. =)

Field report - 5th Aug 2010
Target: HB7 brunette
Where: Shopping mall

A
Body posture controlled, walk of khan for life! walked through the door and saw this hottie in front of me (2meters). opposite directions... i know I have 3 seconds or less to act before she walks off and i'll look like i'm vulturing.

Opener: (still testing this one, trying to come up with my first indirect opener... 6 months of indirect training! yes!)
"Let me see if you can help me, i need advice from a cute girl"
*flattered* "thanks :)"
"Do you think people need to have the same dreams to be in a relationship?"
"What time of dream do you mean?" (i deliberately made the "dreams" a bit fade so i could hook on to more)

B
"Like passions, things you like to do. Things you LOVE!" *cheeky smile and big actions. BT Spike
*I actually noticed at this point in time, I was pecking, body language started to slouch and also the distance between me and her was quite far away - more than one arm's length...*
"O, well I don't really think so."
"That's what I think too" *should have BT spiked.
"The reason why i'm asking is because I was talking to this girl the other day and she told me that two ppl must have the same dreams together. I'm like waaa?.... Where did you get that from? She literally did this *attempt to kino hold targets arms like someone saying somethign seriously. This normally works for me but this time, the space between me and her were too far apart... which made it awkward.* and said ____, you have to trust me... Seriously, it's never wrong. I get all my advice from.... a Cleo magazine"
"No way!!!" it was a funny story but it didn't have the type of reaction i wanted. she laughed and giggled but i personally wanted a bigger emotional impact.
"I know right! are all girls like that?"
"No not really"
"Where do you get your advice from?"
"Instinct."
Blah blah blah, we talked for another 2 mins? wiki effect big time (talked about uni, her current job and what she's doing there.. all in the span of 2 min LOL)
She then brings it back "yea i actually think that it's a bit weird that she's looking at cleo"

* i bailed from here = = dumb arse!! !should have kept talking about something. make the ho say no==* Failed that shit test- should have asked what your doing here or something. o well, part of learning.

Personal evaluation comments:
Need to refine the opener - it didn't have the funny effect I wanted it to have. Maybe test it out on a few more targets.
Voice projection was good, but body language was terrible. Pecking, arms t rexing, and slouching. Remind self to practice posture.
BT spike more/ bit too much fluff talk in the beginning (maybe slip in a DHV story right after opener) and close gap between person and myself. Prb should have re-positioned her (alpha man, alpha!)
big time sticking point - i begin talking about something else before the girl finished! I'm so excited about the next thign coming out of my mouth that i sometimes cut her off== dumbarse! be kind, and listen please.

Overall - AA zero, had fun, she had fun and improving.
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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 07 Aug 2010, 05:13 
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FR - 7th of August
2 set HB7
where: uni

A
walked out of the toliet going back to study when I see these 2 babes walking opposite direction of me 50 meters away.
Body - check
Smile - check
Opener - ready

go!
"Hey girls, let me ask you a quick question. Do you two girls think that -(same opener as above)
I stuttered quite a few times during the whole interaction, basically, i forgot my lines LOL!

B
After background story
"so what brings you girls here today?"
"I live on campus."
"awwww. no way. what about you?"
"I'm just seeing the uni for the first time."
"So both of you first years?"
Blah blah blah but i didn't link on to much more conversation.
BT spiked with high five and they were laughing. Blonde was very responsive, brunette not as much.
Ejected after a while because "think i dont know what to say"

Summary:
Main sticking point in this one - should have kept talking about plowing! don't be scared. the brunette wanted to leave but the blonde was definetly interested. Should have just wiki effect her big time. Questions I could have asked "What course do you do?. Where are you from? Have you ever had japanese food? LOL random. What's the most randomiest thing you have done today? let's do something random.. hug!"
i don't know, just keep taalking and plowing, definetly a wasted set.
body language was improved from last fr, really watched my posture but then my verbal was weak.
should have followed with DHV story as preplanned in my stack.


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 10 Aug 2010, 03:30 
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FR 10th of August
1 HB9 brunette
where: walking to car park
Direct approach! I couldn't be stuffed going through all the indirect stuff, wanted it to be quick and effective. Just finished a 12 hour work...

A
I saw her 10 meters away walking the opposite direction. OMG she's hot... AA kicked in, she walked past me.
I'm wtf, turned around, ran after her. Kino turn.
"HI, I have to come up and tell you that you look absolutely adorable today."
Key point:
I was actually nervous after I said that. I'm normally not like this, hmmm
"I'm chris"
"I'm _____" She's pretty unresponsive. I have to admit, she was drenched from rain, rushing to her bus station and my approach wasn't calibrated right. My nerves really showed.

I try to jump straight to see
C
"So tell me about this _____"
"Um, who are you?"
i'm like, ok this is not going as planned.. PLOW
"I'm chris, did you just come from uni."
"Yea, i did come from uni. where are you from?"
"Hong kong" [should have went to my DHV story of my nationality]
"well, i actually got to go catch the bus"
"o that's fine, nice to meet you"
got hand shake... no hug:( which is rare.

I think my mentality was my biggest sticking point. the vibe i was giving out was very needy. I think i forgot to have fun... i was so focused on getting pussy (AFC) that i totally forget everything else and became needy.
O, and i need to find out what to do after direct opener.

On the bright side, things ppl said about me post bootcamp:
Wow, you have been dressing up a lil haven't you? you look good.
Your really outgoing
I think I love you more and more

All good signs of personal change.


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 10 Aug 2010, 09:07 
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Joined: 28 Jan 2009, 13:10
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Bootcamp Graduate: YES (BC: Sydney, Australia July 2010)
Hey bro!..

It was nice to meet you in person recently and we found out we have more things in common after that...

Before I met you I knew you have a lot of good energy by the way you post.. This was confirmed after I met you in person...

Nice post and very honest...

Technicalities and techniques aside ( I am probably not very qualified to give advice on techniques right now except to say practice, practice, practice and practice... till we get it right and it becomes second nature...) , I know you will improve a lot by the sheer attitude you have...

One good quality you have is you are already a pretty social person as I can see...

ps- I was waiting for you to go sky diving when I was in sydney... jk lol


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 10 Aug 2010, 20:45 
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hey man, good job! you're doing exactly what you should be doing and everything you try is progress. you got this man, keep it up and you'll be pimp daddy in no time.


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 11 Aug 2010, 18:14 
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a-z: haha it was a pleasure to meet you as well. You ripping up malaysia yet man? Have you refined your smuggling into china story yet man? That was an intense story... if you refine it man, it's like instant DHV!

Thanks for the compliments man.. i'm very flattered bro ;) no homo lol Yea tru! i totally forgot about skydiving. was so tired and concentrated on the bootcamp. We so should have went though! lol
you should start a journal up as well man. keep track of progress and gives you time to reflect.
ps: have you heard from the other peeps at bootcamp?

Skillz: cheers man, thanks for the motivation! =D going to a day game session later today... can't wait:) thanks once aggain!


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2010, 04:55 
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August 12 2010
Day game
was meant to be meet some new wings today but they all flaked - stupid AFCs

Goal :approach 5 sets and hit comfort!

After 10 mins of walking around the city at rush hour myself and spotting cute sets but not approaching, i kicked myself in the face and just went whatever

HB 7 brunette
See her 20 meters away
body - check
energy - check
smile - hell yea!
opener- ready

A
Excuse me, let me ask you a quick question.
*hooked, she smiles* Peace out to energy, body language and confidence!
test new opener

B
Got to a good decent conversation. Actually, much better than good. Bt spiked her. had fun, wiki effect talk about random stuff.
Goood work! and good work kinoing from the start. kino is incorporated into my opener so that was smoothhhhhhh. kino from that point onwards was a breeze.
note to self: opener still does not have direct effect. it normally ends in "O, yea i just think it's kinda weird". Thinkin gof stacking it with a preselected by women story.
another note to self: saying btw, i'm chris in the middle of something suddenly makes introducing each other... less... awkward. it was kinda like, o he's chris but yea let's continue the conversation cause we are friends now cause i know her name. any1 vouch for this or disagree with this? It's like a comfort builder.

blah blah blah
"what you doing here"
i'm actually meeting my boyfriend
"that sounds sweet" at this point i'm like, no point wasting time on this set anymore. find some other set. i should learn how to plow through those. I talked about somethign funny with her/ bt spike... did this because of my new philosophy [refer to end of this journal entry]
HUUUUUUUGS! set closed

Set 2
i walk 10 meters, see this short hb brunette 8 walking towards me.
3 second rule - nah... 1 second rule
lock engage attack
smile... body language... energy... let's show this girl some fun!
A
"Opener"
Kino well from the start. closed off gap between me and her. was in the ok friend zone distance instead of the weirdo in city distance.

B
Hella bt spiked her.. i don't know, i think one of my gifts is bt spike. i can make a girl laugh, high five, hug easy... got to analyse why though.
anyways transition from opener was kinda lucky:
"O, i really like the ribbon thing you did on your head"
"wow thanks, someone in LONDON actually told me blah blah blah"

MULTIPLE hooks in that one sentence she said.
We end up flirting... yes flirting guys for 10 mins about travel, flights, funny stories (thank god i prepared some DHV stories, nice!) and wiki effect her arse.

C
just when i was about to LEAD her to sit down, her phone vibrates and she missed two phone calls from her bf. This girl is a very outgoing girl, we were having so much fun.
I'm like, fine - BT Time!

B
"O, i'm talking to other guys while your trying to call me"
*i quickly type on my phone: a hot sexy asian*
she bursts out laughing.
At this point in time, i know this girl have attraction in me.
*i write a few more text to show her while talking*
some include *awwww, that's so cute.*
i decided to number close
write in text while she was on the phone. Guys, what i loved most about this set was that although she was talking on the phone, that actually created a massive sexual tension between us... this happened:
*Number?*
*she shakes head and point at phone*
i go "awwwwwwwww"
Hands open and she comes in for a hug
we had a second where our eyes met and we knew something was going on...sexual tension!
we hugged again and decided to part ways. both smiling as we walked away.

Now this is what i think i should have done:
ALPHA!!!
take the phone she's talking on away, pull her close, and kiss the shit outta her
or atleast type in phone
"Type your number"
wasn't alpha enough, i reckon i could have gained more from this set if i was alpha... fk she had a cute body.

Set 3
HB redhead 8 sitting on the bench near my car
A
Smile, energy, body language
DIRECT!

B
"wow, thank you."
"I'm _____"
*she giggles*
"i'm busy"
"what? your lizzy?" *lol i genuinely heard wrong*
find out she's busy.. but she was still laughing and i could see that if i kept plowing i would have at least got somewhere. man i love this body language, pre approach set up thing. saves lives! lol

anyways, closed this set quickly cause i needed to get somewhere.

Overall:
nice- i'm getting closer and closer to comfort. A and B phase getting down pat now.
opener still needs revising. maybe add a story to come after it.
MUSt keep up the pre approach routine of body language, smile, energy and funness!


o btw guys - my new philosophy

Why take when you can..
give?
:)

more specifically... why expect ppl to make you happy, base your satisfaction on results... when you can be happiness and give happiness. now that will improve your game.


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2010, 10:03 
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SuitedCC wrote:
a-z: haha it was a pleasure to meet you as well. You ripping up malaysia yet man? Have you refined your smuggling into china story yet man? That was an intense story... if you refine it man, it's like instant DHV!

Thanks for the compliments man.. i'm very flattered bro ;) no homo lol Yea tru! i totally forgot about skydiving. was so tired and concentrated on the bootcamp. We so should have went though! lol
you should start a journal up as well man. keep track of progress and gives you time to reflect.
ps: have you heard from the other peeps at bootcamp?



Hey man,

yeah, I have more or less refined that story... maybe can refine it a bit more... Its intense because it is true..
Before the bootcamp I was wondering what interesting stories do I have. But when I started to do the assignments, one by one they started to come to mind again... and I just recalled that I actually had an adventure in the jungles of Indonesia before... duh.. why didn't I recall all these stuff?... ha ha

yeah, maybe I should start a journal...

I just pm and added a few guys in facebook... are you in facebook?


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 Post subject: Re: Suited's Journal - Success here I come
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2010, 06:24 
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a-z, damn man, that adventure sounds like an awesome story!

i don't have facebook a, you have my email though!


18 August 2010 - 5:30

Was just walking around on in a pub area near city.
Goal - approach 3 sets and hit comfort.

Set 1
HB blonde and brunette
They were crossing the road and I just parked my car.
Chased them from behind

A
Kino turn
my Dreams opener
LOL I totally forgot the exact words and i think it should a bit of unconfidence

B
BT spike and made them laugh. The blonde was very receptive, the brunette starting walking away. Guys what should i have done? One was good, the other wasn't good.
I spotted this and decided to start walking as the convo seem to be ready to die off... but i knew i had to plow
kinda got the "this is weird why is he here vibe."
I said
"I'll just tag along with you guys till tthe lights and i'll be crossing the road"
So beta== lamest thing i've ever said.
We talked about and i stacked it with one omy DHV story. They laughed and found it funny. The blonde was receptive but the brunette kept shit testing me.

As we got closer towards the intersection, I just said my good bye. Should have done something else... plow? kept talking? But the vibe i got was why is he here vibe. But they were laughing and bt spiked.
Set closed

Thoughts:
Kino turn was awesome
Bt spike was good and energy was lifted, but not as high energy as i normally am.
Need to learn how to tackle the extra girl raising slut shield. Semi-isolation?
PLOW PLOW PLOW and atleast try to number close although it would be meaningless.
Need to revise opener - it doesn't have a big effect... effect right now is "Haha... kinda funny."
AND REMEBER what i'm goign to say or atlesat make it flow, i repeated a few lines cause i couldn't remeber what's coming up next.

set 2
Just finished a quick milkshake and saw a girl in a dress.

A
Hesitated a bit. She kinda saw me coming
O well
Delivered opener

B
She gave me the "urrr, what the?" reaction.
Confidence dropped a tiny winy bit but i could see she saw that and didn't seeem to care what i was doing.
really quick convo and bye.

Thoughts:
if i'm going in, go in confident
learn my lines
and SMILE!


3rd set
Brunette on bench. saw her reading a book
A
She saw me coming lol, but i'm like whatever
Confident posture
"Delivered my opener"
I still kinda forgot the lines lol! haha
but i transitioned quite well from sitting up to sitting down.

B
Talked about random stuff
she shit tested me:
"You know, we should stop talking"
BT spike! "o really? that's sooooooo mean"
we start talking again
Energy was quite low, was trying to lift it but she was a very articulate and sophisticated girl. Not the normal.
I made some random stories up== lame should memories my DHV stories.
Talked for a good 6 mins or so? Way too much fluff talk though.

She said she had to leave
SHOULD HAVE ATLEAST TRIED TO NUMBER CLOSE! she was there talking to me and sharing stories...
Hug and set closed

thoughts:
need to remeber my stories and lines. It is quite obvious when i don't know what i'm speaking next
bt spike and lift energy. energy was too low.
i got a lil bit of why you here vibe but plowed through it.
don't know why though, she seemed kool with me but still wanted to leave. Maybe i was just being pussy... should have number closed.


other thoughts:
the stuff i was wearing wasn't that kool or flashy.
Approaching was sighted by two sets. normally they wouldn't see me coming.
forgot to walk of khan, smile and approach.
remeber my lines==

after a good night sleep here are the things i think i need to keep in mind:
Conversation - i stutter and repeated sentences because i was nervous. need to calm down and just slowly speak out. Sometime pausing is gold.
BLP - all of these situations could have got more game time if I BLPed better
Changing the way i talk to a girl according to their "style" - I'm very good with girls that are happy and high but when girls are slow and articulate, i seem to lose it. I think the reason is because the sophisticated girls has more slut shields AND are looking for men who not only can hold a conversation... but can hold a MEANINGFUL one. I think it's time i read up on a few more books and romantic novels or something. I need to be able to become the james bond smooth talker yet have the high energy fun guy ready at anytime. my high energy fun guy value may not be apprecaited by all. Need to add kool smooth james bond guy into my game.
FUN=D


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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2010, 04:11 
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19 August 2010
Finished work early... I could either go home and play games. or go out and practice.

I have to admit, it was really easy to just say 'i'm lazy' or 'i had a long day at work' or 'games sound so much easier'. I had to really say "no! go practise" Pushing myself... And I was quite happy with the turn out:D

Shopping mall
6ish
goal: approach at least one set.

HB brunette
Saw her walking out of a shop
Direct line. Posture good
Smile good
opener ready

A
Dreams opener
I'm begin to feel for what makes my opener work. I've included kino in one part, used more expressive words and in general, have a better feel of how it's going to work.
But what i'm really proud of today is something I learned. It is:

B
BT SPIKE! i finally understood the magic of bt spiking. I was talking to her, and she seemed like she was busy. the "i'm busy vibe"
I was like, i didn't bt spike much yesterday... energy was low. need to bt spike today
She said
"yea i believe in myself"
*High five!* me too!!
*she giggles*
and then all of a sudden...

She was open to me. She turned right around. Body facing towards me and was very receptive.
Magic of BT spike.
I think the magic is I.A.BT after the opener. Especially if the opener does not have the desired emotional impact.
that's the important part. I.A is not strong enough.
BT will make the girl stay that much longer enough for the next step (right now for me, it's DHV story).
Amazing:)

Asked her what she was doing here. Find out that her bf was actually working in the store she just came out from and when i looked, he was watching me like a hawk. haha sucker. =P

I couldn't do that him... after all, it is one of my favorite shops LOL! Said thanks and goodbye.

HB Brunette working in shop
I was walking and then I saw this shirt I really like in this shop.
Walk in, this girl that works there smiles at me. THANK YOU JT for pre-approach preparatioon (clothing, passive value, body posture, smiling, confidenct!!!!). Guys, work hard on passive value. it is so goooooood

PUA face! let's roll

A
"OMG that shirt is awesome!" said in high energy
"Yea it is!" she responds back receptively.
"You like the shirt too???"

B
"Yea i do"
*HIGH FIVE!*"
Massive giggles
I am so in this girl's pants.
BT spiked her a few more times.
DHV myself - cause i know the boss of the place. She was impressed.

I decided to leave this set because i had to go eat dinner with parents. But i told her i'll be back tmr to buy the shirt and she says

"OMG! i'll be here! i'll save the shirt for you"
She was addicted to the one and only - Me =D

Thoughts:
Overall - much better than yesterday.
Today confidence was much better, pre approach was better managed (posture, smile and energy)
Learned the real effects of BT spike. I understand now! it's not theory anymore... it's in me now. (biggest take out from today)
Refined my opener. Kino during, more expressive words and really cutting all the fluff out.
Still need to work on BLP, kinda forgot about that.

Note to self: don't be happy about the outcome, be happy about the lesson learned. outcomes are shortlived... lessons on the other hand last forever.


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