1000 COLD Approach FURY - Inspired by Ben J

Not sure if this even counts as a set... been at least a week and a few days that I've gone without approaching, must be my rustyness!
Anywho

Latina on the bus, I'd say about 6.732465432435342, but I'm not trying to be specific

She looked just like another girl I hit on before that was totally uninterested in me, so I was a bit hesitant

I sat down, 2 seconds later
"Hope you don't mind"
Then someone behind me taps my shoulder and spouts random nonsense and I asked her if she knew the person (lovely PUA skills righ dere)

Turn to her, was gonna kino turn, but was afraid it might seem awkward cause it was on the bus.

Me: Hey, I think its super weird when people sit on the bus and just NOT talk to each other, I'm Jason.
Hb: Hey, I completely agree, I'm (some fish's name, I forgot)
Me: Like the fish! (start talking about the bus and whatnot)
Tried to spike BT by playing that slapping game, but she didn't feel like it I guess? Idk, I told her to give me her hands (maybe I need more C then I can go back to B for that game)
Then tried a cold palm reading (live to 83, 4 kids, 15 boyfriends) after the 4 kids she took her hand back and I told her I wasn't done, as well as after the 15 boyfriends

After some time in B & C, I see my stop coming up soon and so bring up the topic of : ice skating
and invited her

She dropped the boyfriend line
Me: Cool, you can bring him along (since I hadn't said a statement of direct interest yet, this line came to me super easily)
HB: nope

End result: nada but the joy and memories of meeting a stranger

What I did well: rather than just sitting on the bus quietly, I talked (woooo), I had a good amount of kino even though she wasn't reciprocating, I plowwweeed like a MOFO and didn't care about receptivity
What I'll do better next time: I need more time, convey direct interest, learn to gauge what stage I should be in
-982

10/11/12 <--- check out that date (; LOL

DOUBLE REJECTION today, but I never felt soooo good!

HB7.5, Vietnamese (there's a background story which explains my AA & beta-ness)

We met 8 months ago at a wedding, she was attracted to me for at least 3 months in which I was a little bitch and didn't do anything about it. Now, don't get me wrong, I wanted to, but there are SHITTY excuses for me not to. Her group of friends (mostly just her best friend) absolutely HATES me. What I've done to them, IDK. Maybe cause I'm a flirt, but I've never flirted with them. They're asian, I get AA because of that. Group of people, intimidating, right? HA! Haven't talked to her for 6-7 months before this interaction

I send in 2 buddies of mine that are good with her friends in first. They're making jokes and being funny and shit. Awesome! I come in set abuot a minute later, saying hi to my friends like this was totally spontaneous. Then, I blp the girl to turn her back away from the group and so as to not pay attention to them.

Me: Hey HB7.5
HB: Hey LAPD
Me: So, you're going to prom, right?
HB: Yes
Me: Okay, cool. I was thinking ... it'd be super cool (raised my arms up a bit for this), if we.... (gestured to her and I together) ... went together. (I had great body language while saying all of this, maintained just the right amount of eye contact)
*QUESTION* (she was batting her eyelashes like crazy when I paused after the we, WHAT does that mean?)
HB: Probably not, I'm going with my friends (my smile doesn't falter). I mean, I'm not going with a date (BS. EVERY girl wants a date for her Sr. Prom).
Me: *Smiles bigger* Well, that's completely fine (I offer my hand as if to shake & she lifts hers, I take it, raise it up to chin level AND kiss it *gentleman's grace* as I say this: Well, that's completely fine, but, sleep on it & I'll ask again in about 2 1/2 months

I leave, and behind me I hear laughter.
She's Passing CT's, DEFinitely interested in me, but UGH, ASIANS!

Did well: Approached when I've been not-approaching for the past 1/2 year. Took rejection like a MAN. FUCK YEAh, oh and I was SUPER happy afterwards, like I got something off my chest.
Could've done better: I had more things to say, but sometimes, saying less is actually saying more (BL)
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Oh yeah, and I felt so great, I had my friends point out a cute blonde
I immediately went and approached without stopping my stride
*Just about the most ALPHA body language possible*

Hey, I thought you were super cute and just had to come say hi. I'm LAPD. What's your name?
Her: It doesn't matter.
Me: Sounds like you don't get hit on enough everyday.
Her: Please go away.
Me: *I said something else, forgot it though*
Her: Please go away.
Me: Well, I can see I can't change your mood. Have an absolutely amazing day!

Walked away w/out regret, feeling happier that I went DIRECT MOOOFOOS!

Did well: Went direct, it was from the momentum of the previous approach that allowed me to go in with such confidence
Do better?: I'd like to see that happen. (;

-980

You're definitely getting over your AA, that's for sure!

Big props to asking that girl to prom. Huge props bro. I wish I studied game in High school!


Don't let go of that girl, even if she's socially retarded now, she's most likely going to learn what's going on later. Keep in touch afterwards. I say this because the girl I totally had a crush on in High School was also the first girl I slept with when I moved to California.

On the rigid blowout, you need to ask yourself, why did she blow me out?

Big smile?
Standing tall, lengthening the spine?
Confident posture and speech?
Friendly tone?

If you're doing all of this, there's a 10% chance of rejection. If you can walk away from that approach knowing that your passive value, facial expressions, and physical side of the approach were solid, then you can walk away without regret.

A fun game I like to play whenever I get blown out is just say whatever's on your mind. Some of my favorites,

"Don't forget to write"
"Pouring salt all over that wound ehh?"
"And I thought you were polite"

It's just a matter of not giving a fuck about what happens. Level of care should stay at a wonderful wonderful zero.

Best,
Ben J

P.S - You're doing awesome. Keep up the good work!

Yeah, I read your FR on that lay, how she thought you were completely different.
The girl now, she thinks I'm a flirt. I'll get her number tomorrow after class, and more than likely, we'll be dancing at Prom, that is, if she can dance? (I'm pretty picky about that)

Oh, and I know I'm not supposed to be approval-seeking, outcome dependent, & all that, but..
I can't help but to be absolutely happy when a coach gives me approval

Oh and with the rigid blowout, I believe it was either
a) her boyfriend was in the classroom with the door open, 2 steps away
or
b) I came across as insincere.

I had the: standing tall, confident posture and speech, friendly tone, big smile (especially this) all down to the dot.
Pretty much figured the Walk of Khan everyone keeps talking about

First EVER success with a Wing.
On the bus to Laguna Beach, Senior class trip.

6:45 in the morning... "ATTENTION! ATTENTION everyone. (my teacher starts telling me to sit down) My name is JASON. And I (he's telling me to sit down with more frequency) will be sitting down."

Immediately captivated these two girls diagonal from me to the left. I knew I had A-phase down, so to spike BT, my wing and I had them play a strip game with us. My target was on the left HB8 and her friend on the right HB7.5. After an upsell, the friend goes and sits down next to me while my original target goes to my friend. We, then, SWITCH targets.

Banter some with the friend and I go to the restroom, I come back and she's in her original seat talking to my wing and her friend. I BLP her so that her back is to the friend and she's facing me completely. We talk about random things, I pump BT with a game (hand-slapping/thumbwar/palmreads) when she says something I like. I ask her to PROM and she says she's going with one of her girl friends, and if I'd LIKE to go with both of them. FUCK YEAh I WOULD

While we talked some C phase, my kino was directed towards legs and moving upwards (there was a blanket on top of us). (good idea or no?)

We got off the bus and IMMEDIATELY, I was THE LEADER. There were 6 of us, 3 guys 3 girls. I called the shots. I walk, they follow. I'm hungry, they eat. (I ate, too).

After touring whatever we could of Laguna Beach and swimming, we came back to the bus. I isolated the girl and we went into LOTS of comfort.
She says she usually doesn't "really talk about herself, but with me, though we just met, its like she's known me for years"
Fuck yeah.

Then I figured, it was time to kiss her, cause I felt like it. I used EVERY single tactic, technique, improvised versions of various techniques and tactics and EVERYTHING. Nothing worked.
I don't understand why. The "get our face closer, laughing = release of sexual tension"(got close and went in for the kiss, she turned and I got the cheek); the "kiss me on the left, the right, now the middle" (kissed left, right, but not middle); the "on a scale of 1-100 how much do you want to kiss me?" (65), and 1 more I can't remember.

She's totally into me and everything, but I wonder what was up? So I asked my wing today and her friend says that she's been hurt alot lately, so she's waiting. But her friend (my original target) wants us to get together.

Oh, and today, she initiated text conversation and kept it going whenever I didn't feel like. & I invited her out, she said she's busy. I then realized I was busy, too. I tell her that. MAGICALLY, she became completely free this week.

What I did well: Great BT, maintained 4 hours of conversation. Lead the interaction, the group, everything. Removed AMOGs that were hitting on her at the beach. Stayed in comfort zone for about 2 hours.
What I could improve on: gettin' that kiss? IDK... Need some input from Alumni or coaches

UPDATE* Met up with her today at school, walked around (I lead, of course), then called her out on the kissing "Do you not like kissing or something?" *we kissed* "that was a 2, but of course, you haven't had as many hook-ups as me"
Felt kinda needy, having to call her out on the kissing. What do you guys think?
UPDATE** Feels like we're a couple. It's not facebook official or anything, but just does. Kissing upon meeting at school and holding hands and whatnot
-979

Laxed up on the approaching for a week
Then, Yesterday, cause both my Prom date attempted to cancel on me at the same time (No worries, we're back on)

I go direct at the gym and figure out some sticking points. Sat there for 2 minutes on a workout machine to think of a transition LOL

Me - Hey, I was working out over there and you were sitting and your cutness was totally distracted me from my workout (stumbled twice during delivery, I'm ashamed, though Eye contact was 70/100)
HB8 - I'm sorry? Thanks? *uncertain smile*
Me - You're really fit. On a scale of 1-100, how much of a fitness freak are you? (I started qualifying too early, but thought I'd already reach enough A&B)
HB8 - Not really!? I have a boyfriend.
Me - That's fine. My workout's completely over though
HB - Do you go to school?
Me - Yeah, Lq (gesture towards her)
HB - Oh, I go to Cv. Are you from around here?
Me - Yeah, I just moved here. I'm LAPD. What's your name?
HB - MMMM (some mexican name)
Me - Sounds SO mexican! I have NO idea what you said
HB - Thanks? Call me MM
Me - I'll call you MN Let's keep in touch (I thought, 2 questions - hook achieved, time to close and go home to shower)
Do you have a facebook? (I know, should've went for number)
HB - Yeah, my name is Mmnofwiej. Oh, wait, I cancelled it
Me - Okay, what's another way to contact you? (pause) phone?
HB - yeah, ok (I hand her phone)
I have a bf, he's somewhere around here, really jealous.
Me - Aww, the couple that works out together. Well, I only wanted to give you a compliment.
HB - Do you come here often? (SMOOTH!)
Me - 2-3/week
HB - We'll see eachother again then!


Did good: Approached even though it felt somewhat awkward when I thought about it, like she's sitting down, I'd be towering over her, so I gave her space. Sat and thought of a transition.
Will improve: balancing voice, and perhaps testing out JT's "How long have you had THAT problem" line.

-978

LAPB!

Some things that might help your game:

1. I personally think you need to work on your Attitude in the A-phase. While I'm glad that you have the mentality that rejection is okay and part of being a man, something that might also help is simply having the attitude that there is NO WAY in hell this girl will reject you. I learned this from Cajun so I'll give props, but he talks about how when most guys approach, they think that their techniques SHOULD work (key word "SHOULD") instead of WILL work. They come in thinking they are confident, but deep down they're thinking "I really hope she doesn't reject me." You start to get in a kind of approval seeking mode and your body language gives this away. Instead, start thinking "I'm totally awesome and charming so there's no way she's going to turn me down." When you combine this postive thinking about yourself with a zen-like mentality about the outcome, top-notch body language, and really good passive value, only good things will happen. I guarantee it .

2. You can't just go in for the kiss just because YOU feel like it. I mean... it's sort of a yes and no kind of thing. On some level, you have to know when it's the right time to kiss her. You need to run Sexual Compliance Tests in order to see if it's the right time to do so. Sometimes you might see someone like me, Ben J, or any other coach kiss a girl in what seems to be a very short amount of time; but really, it's because WE KNOW it's the right time to kiss her. We have enough experience to feel when the right time is that we no longer need to wait for her to pass 3 SCTs. If she rejects the kiss (ie turns away), then it's probably because she is concerned about others are thinking OR we may have miscalibrated. Regardless, when she turns her cheek, you can still save it by kissing her on the cheek, then behind the ear, then on the neck. Then just go back to the C-phase.

3. As a beginner, BT spiking during the day is a little different from night time. When at a bar or club, it is perfectly acceptable to play silly games like slap jack, thumb wars, etc. However, during the day time its more about using your coversational skills. You want to share or talk about things that convey a day in the life of LAPB. Share DHV stories that are more energetic, or funny, or convey attraction switches like leader of men and protector of loved ones. The key thing here is that what you do in the B-phase is congruent with you. Women pay a lot more attention to this during the day because they don't have the other distractions they would have at night.

That's all I can think of for now but keep up the good work. You got my support and will do my best here on the forums to help you along the way.

Thanks so much for the post and an analysis on my game! You've no idea how much it means to me.
I'll take to heart what you've got to say.
1. You're completely right about my attitude, its a "oh, this should work" when it will be a "this will definitely work".
2. I was pretty sure she passed CT's on that one, but SCT's, I usually have a girl attracted to me enough by the time she passes the normal CT's that I don't use SCT's, but that's a mistake on my part. I'll look up some SCT's for future use, they should be on this website somewhere...
3. A day in the life of LAPB... joking around with friends, hitting on girls, trolling store employees. I do have many "leader of men" stories but energetic & funny... I'll figure something out


Today,
At the mall.
From the back, it was nice. Like DAMN, but from the front.... Old Lady, gross. She's like 30 something up close.
My friends were watching without me noticing.
Me - *kino*Hey, I just saw you walking and thought you were fucking adorable!
Her - Oh, thanks (walks away)
Me - *reach out* You look like you won't be going to StageCoach this year! (She was ugly upclose, but I couldn't just stop at the opener, had to follow up with something..)
Her - Oh, no, I live around here.
Me - Like *^&( *&^%?
Her - Yeah
Me - Okay, well, it was nice meeting you, bye.
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In Tilly's
Me - *kino* Hey, where can I find ***shoes?
Her - *starts taking me around the store and asking for me to specify the shoe*
Her - Oh, we don't have too many of those kinda of shoes here
Me - (after a minute or so) Actually, I just thought you were really cute and I had to come say hi.
Her - Thanks (smiles)
Me - I was wondering what to say when saw that you worked here. So I was like YES! I'll just ask a question about shoes.
We talk for a while, she mentions a boyfriend and I forgot ALL boyfriend-destroyer techniques.
Me - Well, it was nice meeting you.

Things I did well - went direct. I think I'm getting comfortable doing so. Also noticed the importance of warm-up sets. After the 2nd set, I was ready to go, but there was a lack of targets. Oh, and my transitioning was pretty smooth in my opinion, better than the "So, what are you up to?"
Things I need to improve on: Staying in set longer, use of boyfriend-destroyer techniques, and better eye contact, I can't remember the color of their eyes
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Lost both my prom dates today.. sucks.. BALLS.
But, it made me go into rage mode. So I decide to go to the mall, on the way there, I had the epiphany that I go into "rage mode" every time I get rejected is because a rejection from a girl is like a threat to the existence of my future offspring. (VERY psychological)

Anyways, I only did 1 approach, but I feel Very happy about it. I'd rather have 1 good approach then 10 shitty ones.
I was strolling around the mall and decided to look for a brown shirt in the Vans shop. My first approach of the day.
HbVans
BothGirls greet me
Me - Hey, you guys wouldn't happen to have a brown shirt, would you? (I was still feelin that rage mode of smiley, happiness, I get what I want)
Hbvans1&2 and I start talking then HBV1 goes around and tries to find a brown shirt for me. She couldn't find it, and went to the back. I started talking to her friend and bantering about their greeting.

HBV1 comes out saying no brown shirts are there
Me - Good. I actually just thought you were really cute and I was also looking for a brown shirt, too, so I decided to come ask about it.
HBV1 - Aw, thank you. (she blushes)
Me - What's your name? (hold hand out to shake)
Hbv1 - slkfewjoi
Me - Cool, I'm Jason (kiss her hand)
HBv1 - (turns away at being so Flustered) Thanks, I'm sorry, but I have a boyfriend.
Me - That's fine. Keep the compliment (I could tell she wasn't lieing, so I began walking out)
HBv1 - (still super smiley and feeling that feeling of awwwwww) I really hope you find your brown shirt

What I did well: I found out how indirect is so much easier than direct. I still wish I had the balls to go direct and the mind to keep up with it. I'll definitely try that in the future. Made someone's day by just being "in state"
What I could've done better: (had I wanted the phone #) Use a boyfriend destroyer, talk some more, then invite her out

-975 (it's been more than a month and I've only got 25 down!?)

So I've been paying special attention to the feedback I'm getting, and I'm following through with it wherever I go.

Direct - it's so damn efficient. If you go indirect, the girl is still puzzled on your intentions. I like direct.

I walk past her once without saying anything, and was like, I have to go approach, she's fuckin gorgeous. I'm sleepy, so what? I'm tired, so what? No energy, so what? I pump my bt a bit by just mentally saying, I'm ready.

Me - Hey, you are fuckiing adorable. I had to come say hi to you.
Her - (flattered, but kind of shy) Oh, well, hi. (turns away, I believe she's embarrassed and doesn't know what to do)
Me - Who are you?
Her - I'm hb7
Me - I'm LAPB, nice to meet you (shake, I was gonna do gentleman's grace but thought her BT was already sky rocketed)
Me - You look like a... junior.
Her I'm a ____. Do I look like a junior? I mean.. do I look like a junior? (says it the same way)*she turns away and then finds my eyes again, then away and looks at me in the eye again, 3 times*
Me - Yeah. You do.
Tell me something cool about yourself
Her - (stutters at her amazement that someone like me called her pretty) Umm well. Umm.. Well. I don't know... What about you?
Me - Well... I like to... Eat!
Her *hahahaha* blahblabla
Me - Bet you were expecting something cool like sky diving
Her - (begins to qualify herself, then says that her life isn't all that interesting, but the look in her eyes says that she yearns to be a part of my reality and my fun)
Me - You look like you're waiting for your brother... older.
Her - Yeah! You're really good at reading people (I'm 1/2, she's loving this!)
Me - blablabla how do you spell your name?
Her - h-b-7
Me - Okay, now put your number in my phone *handed her my phone*
Her - Alright.
Me - *saw her nails were done pretty crappily, so thought I'd use that as a BT spike since she's putting her number in my phone* I bet you did your own nails huh?
Her - Yeah.
Me - (fobby viet accent) Oh hunny, I do your nail for you, I give you the 5 finger discount. I do 5 finger for you then 5 finger for free.
Her - *busted up laughing*
Her - Okay, I have to go now, my brother's here.
Me - Alright, I'll call you so you have my number, too. *I call her and she picks up*
I open my arms for a hug, and she says "oh, well I just met you" (lmr for a hug, TF?) me "it's just a hug" then some comes in for a pretty tight hug.

Oh, and in this interaction, there was at least 8 times I kino'd her.
Things I did well : followed advice thoroughly about the it WILL work and about being tired as a crutch. Knew appropriate times to BT spike and delve into comfort when usually it's just A&B game.
Things I can improve on : come more prepared, as in get sleep. Stay in comfort longer. Approach sooner (if I did, I might not've had any "hug lmr") PSHAW

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UPDATE* Texted once, called once (left GJ's voicemessage) and no response. Will try again in 3 days