I feel your pain, something like this happened to me a while back. Feel free to forward to your PUA buddies, especially the one who invited all the douchebags.
Let's talk about Social Circle Pick Up for a second.This isn't particularly addressed in PUAdom because, for real, a lot of PUAs (Pick Up Artists) don't pursue active social lives, instead concentrating on improving their Game and occasionally hitting the fool's mate, one night stand and/or fuck buddy.
And, of course, if one has read Neil's "The Game", you can see how fucked up you can get without pursuits beyond the Game, having regular friends you can chill with and what not.The rules are very similar to typical wing rules, except it's your wing- the guy who knows the social circle and has intro'ed you to his friends- who's calling the shot.
1) YOU DO NOT FUCKING TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB
How much can I fucking STRESS this shit? Maybe you want to talk about it to your friends and impress them with your knowledge. Fine, good for you. But when you've been introduced to your buddy's (and hopefully your wing is just more than a wing to you, but actually a good friend who also happens to have similar goals and skill levels when it comes to women) friends, YOU DO NOT FUCKING TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.
2) YOU DO NOT GAME UP YOUR BUDDY'S TARGET.
If your buddy has told you which girl is his target (or someone he hooked up with or planning to) YOU DO NOT FUCKING TRY AND GAME HER. Instead, YOUR DUTY- as both a good friend and wing- is to TALK HIM UP to give him SOCIAL PROOF that he's the fucking COOLEST GUY IN THE FUCKING WORLD AND YOUR BEST FRIEND. Obviously, however, this isn't a perfect world and maybe your buddy's girl isn't into him. Fine, but A) you still notify him and B) you don't Game until you have permission or C) It's SOOOOO fucking obvious that she's into you (not your run of the mill IOI, but she's full up acting AFC on your ass and trying to Game you while ignoring your buddy) and you've exhausted options A and B. Then you can go in.
3) COMMUNICATE YOU FUCK HEADS
Tell your buddies which girl is off limits and which one isn't. You cannot tell them "We're just friends" and assume that she's off limits. You actually have to tell them. You know they're PUAs, respect that they're going to Game what's hot. And if you simply indicate there isn't anything serious going on, THEN DON'T GET FUCKING MAD IF THEY MAKE A PLAY FOR THAT ASS.
4) DO NOT HOG ALL THE GIRLS
You cannot intro your buddies into your social circle and expect them to whack off in the corner. They will be men and Game. Let them know who's off limits and who isn't. You can't have plans on EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GIRL THERE. Why then even fuck bother introducing your PUA friends other than to show off?
5) INTRODUCE HIM TO YOUR OWN SOCIAL CIRCLES
Do NOT be a fucking leech. If he's taken the time and effort to introduce you into his social circle, give a little respect that you're stepping from a purely wing environment into an actual friendship beyond acquaintenances. Introduce him into your own social circles and follow the rest of the Rules.
6) YOU ARE NOT A FUCKING SARGE ROBOT
Act like an actual human being for once- chill, and have fun. This is what regular people- be they cheesedicks or Naturals- do. They aren't obsessive compulsive pick up artists, they actually have a life beyond picking up chicks. Seriously. CHILLAX for a second. Enjoy the environment, the ambiance, and the people. You are not on a fucking stage and you do not have to fucking perform every time you see a cute chick. VIBE AND HAVE FUN.
7) RESPECT THAT SOMETIMES YOUR SOCIAL CIRCLE GIRL WILL DIG YOUR WING
Don't fucking freak. Expect it. If they weren't going to hook up with your PUA buddy, they would still end up hooking up with a cheesedick or a natural. Deal with it. But at the same time, your wing/buddy better not be stepping out of bounds and Gaming your girl, unless she's definitely not into you but rather him. Then just be a MAN and step aside. You win some. You lose some. That's life.
8) DON'T PLAY FUCKING MIND GAMES WITH ONE ANOTHER
That's what chicks do. That's not what bros do. Now maybe you wing with some Pick Up Artists but aren't actually FRIENDS with them. That can happen and they want to subtly indicate they are more "alpha" than you. But that's not what friends are about. Don't fuck each other over.
9) DO NOT BE A FUCKING COCK BLOCK
If your buddy is interested in a girl, your job is to SOCIAL PROOF HIM. You do not fucking cock block him. You do not TOOL him. You do not AMOG him. You show her that you consider him to be the most coolest, alpha guy in the room. It's a PRIVILEGE that you're in his circle of friends. Show some respect, appreciation and fucking FRIENDSHIP.
10) PAY ATTENTION
This is simple SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, people. If you are the introducer, pay attention to your friends as to whether or not they're having a good time and what not. By inviting him out, you are also accepting responsbility for his enjoyment as well as actions. Don't put him in a position where he'd like to commit seppuku and slice open his abdomen from sheer boredeom while you do your shit. If you are the introducee, pay attention and follow your friend's lead. You are there by his invitation. Don't fuck him over by violating Rule #9. Vibe you fuckheads. Social circle sarging should be relatively easy because it isn't a cold approach and you don't have to be a sarge automaton.
Joined: 27 Apr 2009, 18:40 Posts: 220
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The Asian Playboy wrote:
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Thanks. I wrote this out in the Lair.
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I did not feel that Dan did not do a good enough job of covering this in his post, so I'll make it more clear.
Me and Dan threw a party last week and TONS of pooahs showed up. Not cool. Its like me and Dan worked the orchard and a bunch of (uninvited) pooahs came by to harvest the fruit. In addition, you didn't bring any girls or booze and brought your crew of guy friends. Not cool.
This is actually a bigger problem: no one in this lair really wants to throw a party since, when one lair guys find out, the rest of the lair is there trying to get some easy social circle ass.
New Rules for House Party 1.) Do not come if your not invited. To make sure you don't get confused, I will send out Anti-RSVPs. "There will be a party this weekend and, as a reminder, you are not invited. cheers, K." 2.) Think you should be invited but weren't? Give me a call. 3.) If you are invited, DO NOT BRING YOUR CREW OF GUY FRIENDS. Bring NO Guys. 4.) if you are invited, I will ask you in advanced if you are bringing 2 girls or a handle of booze.It will make organizing the party easier. If you cant bring booze or girls, we also need people to watch the door and bartend so ask me in advanced if you can take those spots. 5.) If you show up at the door with no girls or booze, your not getting in.
Why are these rules good? It makes sure no one is leeching at the party. NO VALUE TAKING. If this goes off well, the host wont have to work so hard buying alcohol or inviting girls to the party.
Conclusion, Bring No Guys, Bring Girls and Booze Instead. Also tell me in advance if your showing up so I can plan it.
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20DEC09 Lets catch up shall we?
This is gonna be a special Half Time Review of the First Year of College. But first, what happened since the last update:
Wed: Threw my party. Took a nap between 5am and 6am.
Thurs: Drove 12 hours to Iowa City. Went out with Deja and meet tons and tons of farmers. Funniest part of the night was when I was making out with this chick and a guy came to AMOG me. Instead of pushing me off of the girl, he just pushes her to the ground. Haha his pimp hand is STRONG! Fri: I'm back to Grand Rapids and head out with the GR crew (P. D. J.).
Sat: GR crew hits The BOB. Tons of chicks were DTF, but shit went bad or logistics were bad or w/e. Also ran into Camron Diaz's sister. Sun: College night at The BOB. GR crew is out. I Had a good set that hooked and ran some day2 game. A lot more solid then my usual craziness. More calm and relaxed game.
Half Time Review:
Coming back to GR was good for me. I can see how much I have grown by talking to the GR crew. My view of my own value has increased as well as my game, but I realized that my game has turned into a SNL with crazy DTF 18 year olds game. All I am is basically high octane attraction with physicality. If they like me, they wanna fuck. If they don't, they think I'm creepy and weird or whatever. I need to move onto making a real connection with people.
Go back to Page 1 of this thread to see my goals. Here is my grade sheet of myself: FRIENDS: So I have a nice mastermind circle in Colorado of guys who are as equally dedicated to banging hoes as I am as well as making money. But I dont have no close friends that are not into PU or entrepreneurship. For next semester, I want to have a mastermind circle of dorky kids (guys and girls) who study alot so I can raise my grades. I think I'm just gonna hang out in the Engineering area to find them LOL. I also am going to make a solid circle of 5 guy friends and 5 girl friends with whom I have a deep connection with--NON PU or Business wise.
Grades: I need to step it up in academics. C in Theater and B in Math. I dont know my other grades yet. I seriously didn't put that much effort into my readings/homework as I should have. I spent so much time with PU/making money/Linux/something dumb that I knew it affected my grades.
Organizations: So I did Salsa for the semester. Really fun. Need to go to it more then once a week. My marathon running started out strong with 6 days a week, but since it has gotten cold, I've been running around 1 day a week. Need to ramp it up since I just signed up for the marathon 3 weeks ago. MAY 16 baby! WHoot!
Girls: 2 SNLs. tons of crazy adventures. and, oh yeah, I only jacked off 2 times. haha.
CONCLUSION This first semester was fun as hell =] thanks for reading you guys. My game has evolved to a type that is good at picking up 18 year old crazy ADD chicks from the club who just wanna fuck and I need to develop it to a type that gets a real deep connection with people. I think this is because I've spent so much time and effort into developing myself that I dont think people who have not put hard work to develop themselves deserve to get to know since the have no value in my eyes. This is probably what has been hindering me this whole semester. This shale be talked about more in later updates.
Coming back home has allowed me to re-evaluate myself from my roots. My friend Andy says that he cant recognize the old me who he used to work with at the arcade back in high school. I was such a quiet little kid. I can't believe I have changed so much.
This first semester was fun as hell =] thanks for reading you guys. My game has evolved to a type that is good at picking up 18 year old crazy ADD chicks from the club who just wanna fuck and I need to develop it to a type that gets a real deep connection with people.
I actually went through something similar in the early stages of my pick-up career as I get good and surpassed others. You have to watch out, because it's really easy to turn into a douchebag who does nothing but view others in terms of "What can this person do for me?" instead of simply viewing them as a human being (ie the Hollywood mentality).
Anyways, how did the 10 Commandments to Social Circle Wingmanship go down with your Lair?
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Heya SirKonstantine
Finally got the chance to read your entire journal
Firstly I would like to thank you for your contributions. It really shows that if one applies oneself, that rewarding experiences will follow.
I've noticed that you have a very strong mentality and work ethic. This includes going to night clubs solo, which is something that I admit I am fearful of. During the day time, I don't have too much of a problem with this, I presume that entering a venue, with loads of strangers triggers these fears.
I am currently working on this, which includes
1) Taking action 2) Daily Marathorn runs 3) Hold off on the jerking 4) Eating and Drinking well
However, I am quite interested in the Meditation you have posted on your journal. Do you have any good recommendations (books, audios)? I'm gonna make the effort to meditate twice each day to strengthen the mind and strenghten my inner beliefs.
thanks bro
SirKonstantine
Post subject: Re: [VIDS][PICS]The College Report.
Posted: 03 Jan 2010, 16:51
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Joined: 27 Apr 2009, 18:40 Posts: 220
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3JAN09 Update Time
What Up guys =] Guess my Winter Vacation is almost over. I need to go back to school in a week. I'm heading to London, Ontario tomorrow to chill with Mike for a few days and then head back to Colorado. Here is a brief of what happened.
-Went out Solo a lot during the holidays. My family dont celebrate Christmas, so what the hell am I gonna do when everyone else is w/ their families? Oh yeah, meet girls.. -Got kicked out of a club for hitting on the bouncer's girlfriend. -For NYE, I went to a Greet Orthodox Church. Yeah, me the 20 year old Asian Atheist shows up at a Greet Orthodox Church to drink and hit on the girls, who I found out were 16 and 17. I was REALLY considering making out with her during the ball drop... then I said no because I'm in a church. -Found out I got a 3.175 GPA. WTH! hahahhahaha my grades are actually GOOD. very surprised.
Anyways, I realized last night that I know why I have not been getting laid for the past few weeks. I've been going out but I have not been pushing the sets hard enough. I was saying stuff to stay in set, not to Push the set forward. I also have not been trying new things.
In Mastery, George Leonard says you need to keep on pushing yourself, even if you dont see results, to get out of the plateau. I think I have not been pushing my sets enough. More to this in a bit.
Joined: 27 Apr 2009, 18:40 Posts: 220
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LordShamino wrote:
This includes going to night clubs solo, which is something that I admit I am fearful of. During the day time, I don't have too much of a problem with this, I presume that entering a venue, with loads of strangers triggers these fears.
I am currently working on this, which includes
1) Taking action 2) Daily Marathorn runs 3) Hold off on the jerking 4) Eating and Drinking well
However, I am quite interested in the Meditation you have posted on your journal. Do you have any good recommendations (books, audios)? I'm gonna make the effort to meditate twice each day to strengthen the mind and strenghten my inner beliefs.
I have been slacking on the meditation part lately, but everyone I know who does it as well all enjoy it. Basically, all I do is sit there, close my eyes half way, stare at the wall, count down from 20 to 0, and sit there for 20 minutes. Not much to it. The more you practice meditating, the easier it is to get into a meditation state.
but as for going out solo, meditation won't be a direct fix.
I felt a little anxiety about going solo last week, but it went away once I realized why I was feeling that way. I was going to a club that I have not been to in months in a city I haven't been to in awhile. Its not my home anymore. I also felt that you need to be there with people or else your weird. Once I realized what beliefs were holding me back, I realized that they were dumb and irrational and it stopped affecting me.
Joined: 27 Apr 2009, 18:40 Posts: 220
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I'm gonna push my sets harder. I haven't been saying the hard and intense shit that I should be saying. I've been just standing there, staying in set untill they leave, but saying dumb ass shit. I'm not being the caveman that takes what he wants verbally... so I decided to go back to routines =]. Here is a stack that I'm gonna use tonight. I think its hillarious so I cant wait to try it out. It'll for me to be more dominante verbally.
Hey you, I'm Konstantine from Colorado, Do you wanna be my Michigan girlfriend? wait wait wait its too early... Do you wanna be my Michigan girlfriend now? no no no... I love you. You complete me. we will be the cutest couple. Lets get married and adopt a kenyan. We can name it speedy. What you dont like that name?
and do w/e messed up sexual comments I can think of. Its my last night in town, I have no reprocussions =]
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