LordShamino's 30 Day Challenge

Juggernaut - Lol, I hear ya buddy. From the bootcamp, the ABC instructors suggested that we had decide which type of seducer we strive to be. Theres the badboy type, which JT goes for, and also reading some of your FR, it looks like you striving for that particular style.

For myself, I'm striving to be more of a charismatic seducer. As much as I love sex with hotties, I also enjoy the bonding with the women I meet.

The points you have raised are great points. Johnny Wolf told me at bootcamp to push myself to the limits. Burn and crash. Don't be afraid to escalate. While travelling to hawaii, I pushed myself pretty hard with escalating, maybe it was because i was in a different country, more freedom, that I just go in for the escalation. I get mixed results

However, nowadayz I've been doing Day Game moreso often. If I went into the middle of the park and going full escalation, full of people around...it'll be like hmmm

but mateeee.. you got some massive balls to do that shit hahaha. I'm still working on the follow up with going Direct.

Jamestopdog: hahaha, thats the spirit. Let that Azn blood guide you to that pussy lol

Day 6

Today I actually approached two sets of girls. One on the street and another one at my Gym. The girl at the street was pretty short and I wanted to go direct there. When I saw her up close, all my intent drain. Cute from afar, but just a normal looking chick upfront. She was obviously pretty happy with such a direct complement, but I didn't maintain that frame I usually do with the girls I've feel light headed with. So we walk to the park and talk a bit of comfort stuff, but I decided to bail

Now if you checked the girl I met at the gym, mateee, makes you feel good being a man. Shes Serbian with huge knockers. She was talking with a buddy of mine in Serbian, which I came up and started winging lol. I told her that this guy knows his stuff and I've been under his tutelage. Pretty much DHV this gym mate of mine.

She was pretty receiptive, ahhh the wonders of social circle game. To be honest, my strongest social circle game is at the gym. Both guys and chicks talk with me. Having chicks friends come up and say hello while i'm in set increases my social value so much. Now, if there was only more hot blondes and brunettes coming into my gym that'll be great lol

Seriously, retaining eye contact was a struggle, especially since it was sooo tempting to check out her hooters. I noticed that it was a clear blue, and we pretty much talk about a whole range of stuff. Just finished Uni, a graphic designer, born in Bosnia and loves shopping haha. Got a bf, but hey, adding another chick to the gym wouldn't hurt. Especially if a new hottie comes along lol

Whoops what I meant to say was:

Every approach you do, know where you want to go with it. You make the approach because you want to get to know the girl more, because she's cute, because whatever. Make sure you either accomplish that reason or get blown out trying to do it. Set your goals higher and your sights further. Go beyond just the approach, otherwise you might not get much out of the interactions. Of course, use discretion especially if you are on a college campus. You don't want to be pick up guy. You want to be social normal guy. That's actually when it pays off to just talk to the girls hella casually and get to know them vs approaching them hardcore direct.

If you see a girl walking and you approach her and tell her she's cute, but she has to be in work in 10 mins and keeps walking, then you succeeded cuz that was a real approach. Even if she ignores you, you did the approach. But if you approach a girl and she's sitting down and you ask her, "Where is Jamba Juice?" She gives you her answer and you say, "OK. Thanks." and leave then that is not an approach. You didn't put yourself on the line. If you stay and push the interaction, then you run out of things to say and don't know how where you are going with the interaction and have to leave, then that would also be an approach cuz you put yourself on the line and felt that awkward moment of having nothing to say... That way you'll know what to say next time. You see what I'm saying?

Juggernaut: Lol yeah bro, I totally understand. At BC, JT and Johnny mentioned that I stay in sets too damn long lol. I only really run out of things to say when I'm either really nervous or the chick isn't responsive and gives small responses.

Making approaches for me during day time have become progressively easy, however, once I'm up close and I find that I'm not all too attracted to the girl, then I pretty much cool with letting it slide and enjoying the conversation. For those girls who I do make a connection with in Day Game, I don't really show any mercy lol

But point taken, I should really make some bigger goals and set to achieve them. Its difficult when I aim for a balanced lifestyle, work, gyming, playing indoor soccer, meeting new chicks, socialising, etc.

Also, in sydney the logistics are a bit of a problem. The majority of the people who attended the BC live out west and it generally takes us 1 hour to travel to the city. Given the lower population in Australia, things like gym hours closes at 9pm, I kinda put gaming chicks after work, gyming and playing soccer.

Since I've decided to make this a daily thing, I'm pretty happy with refining my skills.

Day 7

Went to lunch with a high school mate of mine. Hes been in the community for may be a year or so, and pretty much targets asian girls only. Fair enough, we talk about our experiences and usually we give our opinions on chicks we make approaches.

Now its been a while since I've gamed Azn chicks. If I do, its more to keep my wits in place, but I don't place the persistence I usually do with Caucasian women. What keeps me focused and motivated is the fact that I want to accomplish the Asian Dream.

My definition of the Asian Dream is to hook up with a beautiful white girl, who I can pretty much romantically connect with and pretty much settle down with. Share some travelling adventures with.

We're at the park and we're swarmed with a few single hotties out there. The sun is great. Its great having a friend who is committed to the process. We decided that next time we meet, we would have to make one approach during our lunch break.

So I missed out gaming during the lunch break, but I was determined to do this stuff after work. Going Direct takes some serious ballz. I haven't tried chasing chicks down the streets like some guys, but I usually prefer chicks who are stationary.

I scan the park and notice a blonde reading her book by the fountain bench. I make a quick scan of the area, notice the Christmas Tree Decorations event...3..2...1

LS: Hey
HB: Hi (Shes still has her earphones, and continues reading her book)
LS: I know people don't usually do this...but I just had to come over and say...you're really cute

It takes the blonde chick a few seconds to realise the complement, which she then giggles slightly.

Up close this chick probably looks 29. Meh, bangable, but other than that...

I applied some direct kino when I discuss key topics such as the Seaside beach sculptures and the Michael Jackson This is It movie

I'm actually surprised at how cool and collected I am in set. It feels like a James Bond film. I find out that shes originally from New Zealand, that shes waiting to go to a bootcamp. I asked if she was the type that usually comes last

hahah, probably didn't go too well with her, even tho I was only teasing. She must take it pretty seriously.

After like maybe 10 mins, she had to pack up and leave for her bootcamp. She didn't have that WOW factor, that made me want to continue the chase. I finished it off with "Its a pleasure to meet you" and we went our separate ways

What I could do better:

I seriously need more intent and more time to play lol

Yup good shit.

Using a direct opener is the same as an opinion opener. After all they are just words. Just think of it as, "You are absolutely adorable" = "Who lies more, men or women?" The only downside of direct is you might get blown out right away. But it also saves time with girls who are married and have boyfriends. Some girls will tell you right away.

Interesting view on Indirect vs. Direct there Juggernaut.

I've always seen that Direct Openers have greater effect when being geniune about them. It does open me up, and make me emotionally vulnerable, but its the risk we gotta take eh? I've still yet to begin with a Direct Opener and make it all the way to the bed room. In my experience, I usually throw them in when I connect with the girl. But hey, I like being open-minded and possibly break that record lol

Day 8

Today I decided to go to an Asian Bookstore in the City. As soon as I arrive, I see two white chicks checking out the film section. I decided to walk towards the manga section, which I happen to catch a glimpse of a blonde walking towards the magazine section.

I hover next to her, only to see that these magazines were in Japanese

LS: Hey
HB: Hi
LS: I was just curious....but you can actually read Japanese??
HB: *giggles* Yeah I been to Japan before a couple of times.
LS: Wow I'm impressed, what do you reckon of the Japanese people with all those funky hair styles?

Basically I get her talking about her experiences in Japan. Turns out shes a fashionist, with a greek background. I go, you must be happy with the good news eh??? Didn't understand what I meant, until she realised that I was talking about the World Cup.

What I do notice is that I close the gap between us, while still applying some kino. We talk about Hawaii being like a second Japan, with all their tourist, and her fascination about the Japanese culture.

I tease her abit about her current fashion sense, but I possible could have done a bit of role playing to spicen things up. Remembering Juggernauts wise words...hahahah, I went in for the number close

She gave me her digits, typed in a 7 at the end, but went back to correct it. She had to run along to work, so we left it at that.

What I did good

Retain eye contact. Close the distance. First bookstore number close

What I could improve

Probably just make a statement of interest. Like, hey I reckon you're cute and use a sexual tonality with it too. Maybe I shouldn't have taken a step back either.

Any tips are most welcome

Good job LS!

Sorry if I came off like a jack ass in the beginning posts I made in your journal. I forgot how to be normal. I'm working on dropping pick up mentality from my everyday life and just being a social dude.

Also here's some more tips on direct opener. Don't think that direct is better than indirect cuz there are more than two ways of talking to someone. As I recall I met more friends and had more girls calling me to hang out in college when I was talking to them very casually. Direct isn't the only way to approach, but if you want to try it out here's what I learned:

It's not the words that convey directness. It's not the opener that is direct, it is you who is direct. A lot of guys use, "You are so sexy/cute/beautiful." They probably hear this more often than not cuz I don't really think that chodes approach all that much. I can't really quantify my blow out rate/neutralness with this, but it is higher than 50% from the initial approach I think... Badboy says to approach with, "You are so sexy" because it conveys sexual escalation, but my blow out rate with this is really high, so I rarely ever do that anymore. I normally tell the girls that they care cute.

Variations of that which work much better is, "You are... absolutely... adorable." This is my favorite one cuz it works the best for me. It works a lot better because it sounds more genuine since you aren't directly complimenting her looks although you may be. You can be complimenting her look not necessarily her looks. I rarely get blown off with this.

Other ways of being direct is not complimenting her beauty but something about her that is attractive to you:
"You have... such a hypnotizing/seductive... walk. Who are you?" blah blah blah

Or... "You have such an enticing sense of fashion I was drawn in and couldn't resist talking to you." blah blah blah

You can talk about her demeanor, her energy, whatever.

Or just straight up:

"Hello. I just wanted to meet you. I'm xyz."

So try all this out and see which one works best for you.

Hahahah all good there Juggs

I know you mean well. This is probably the main reason why I stuck with this forum, rather than the local forums in Sydney *cough Sydney Sarge cough* Hehehe, although there are some good people in those, there are also quite a few braggarts there that pretty much turn me off them.

Picking up is normal in our daily male lives, every successful guy out there has taken steps towards picking up, be it warm or cold approaches. In my opinion, its true what Sinn wrote about the community. Lifestyle gets you lay. So i gather its good thing realising that being the Social Guy will improve your interactions with the women we meet through our journeys

I'm curious, but what exactly is your definition of a blow out?? For me, I see a blow out when they tell you to scram or they start running in the opposite direction hahaha. If they go I got a boyfriend, I still don't classify that as a blowout either. This might explain why I have good interactions a lot of the females I meet, because I view it in a different concept and I'm progressing to feel good about making approaches, rather than how I use to see them, as imposing and negative.

I love your examples. I think I try a few

Day 9

Its fucking hot out here in Sydney, I love it. The sun is blazing and I feel more energize by the heat. Now, I easily sweat, hahaha, but its not gonna stop me from completing this challenge. I decide to head off to my favourite park (which I do at least once a week). I see a brunette munching on her lunch box, sitting beneath a tree.

What I'm beginning to realise, is that my decision making abilities is getting stronger. I use to stall there for like a couple of mins (maybe 10 mins) before saying fuck it, lets go. I walk directly towards her

LS: Hey...I was just walking by...and I just had to say...you look....adorable

This gets her giggling a bit

HB: I have a boyfriend however
LS: Yeah thats cool...

From here, I'm talking about some christmas tree decoration event that happening at this very park. This brunette isn't really talkative, mostly short responses, I could easily tell she didn't feel too comfortable...must be this new damn Adorable Opener.... hahahaha

Normally I don't eject, but I decided that it wasn't really worth continuing, I could easily make another of statements and getting to know her questions, but it seem pointless.

I told her, that it looked like she didn't feel too comfortable, so I will leave. She apologised and said it was nice meeting me.


Now I was at the public transport system after work and heading home. I noticed a cute blonde standing by herself, reading on of those Mx newspapers. 4 mins till the next train. Its peak hour trains, I generally don't pick up in the train during peak hour traffic. Not unless I got myself a good indirect opener hahaha

I sit next to her on the train and start flipping through my own Mx newspaper. I have another blonde sitting next to me on the right. Thought about doing a south park moment, You and me, and her and her, Simultaneous Lovin hahaha

Back to reality, I skim a few pages until I notice a Pillow Fight Contest on Friday. Ah Ha! Gold!

LS: Hey, do you know where Fleet Park is
HB: (in her sexy european accent) No I don't, where is that
LS: *I point out the pillow fighting contest* Yeah I just saw this awesome add, its a Pillow Fight Competition and its at fleet park. I wanna attend I love having pillow fights
HB: Wow, this is cool. Yeah I would love to attend, but it looks like I work on that day
LS: Hey you're Ukrainian ain't you
HB: I'm actually German
LS: Wow, I would never have guessed

I go into a few comfort topics. I talk about a chick I met previous, and how it was hard to pronounce her name. She giggles about it. Man, this Blonde is hot, German and way more talkative. I also talk about my bro who travelled to germany and how I intend to check out europe in 2010. I discover which station she is dropping off.

Now full peak hour train, it calls for being a little more discrete, even if its for number closing.

LS: Hey, you going to the Thai Food Festival on this Sunday.
HB: no, what is it exactly.

I talk it up, with Muay Thai fighters, Master thai chefs etc. So much better when you got places you can invite chicks to for a Day 2. I didn't go in for a number close, but said that I might meet her there, or during our train rides

Things I haven't done before: Sat next to two blondes and chatted to the hottest one lol.

Things I could improve on: Ignore that its public transport and not be too worried about the consequences. Easy to say, harder to implement.

But yeah, European Chicks Rocks!!!!

Woke up later than usual, its already midday. Was out at night with a girl I use to date, having a few drinks, I'm missing the night life. Hot girls all dressed up, Jamestopdog and Derek are both out at another event.. well theres always next week.

Day 10

I'm running out of fuel for my car, Indoor soccer is coming up which takes 40 mins to drive, well it looks like I gotta check it out local. The shops is called Woolies, pretty much just groceries and everyday items. Practically very few girls here, let alone hot ones.

I'm at the ice cream department, this young azn chick is hanging out there. My friend calls, and I start talkin about a wedding he is attending. This gives me the opportunity to talk to this chick by the ice cream section. I was kidding with my friend that he should consider doing the Wedding Crashers style, which he replies that he'll bring out the balloons and start making balloon animals for the little kids attendin the wedding haha. I hover to the azn chick

I just go through my usual approach and ask her if I got an engagement present for my primary school friend, do i still have to give them some red pocket at the wedding.

She doesn't have clue, but she seems to giggle a lot. Basically shes just indecisive with her selection of ice cream and I tease her about it, saying thats probably the reason why shes not going to uni next year.

Like the majority of azn chicks out there, they're are shorter than the caucasian counterparts. So body positioning seems to be easier, even placing more of a dominant frame. She mentions something about a gap year, and I thought she was going overseas to do some volunateer work. It doesn't look like it.

She walks to another ice cream section, which I decide not to follow rather to hover a bit around more, and then walk a bit closer. She picked a few more yoghurts and says goodbye. Hmm, since I really didn't care about the consequences I told her, lets grab some coffee. She replies that she has to get home so I chose not to pursue.

Didn't feel anything, it seemed that I should approach another chick. Someone that i'm at least attracted to. So I loiter a bit around the shops for a bit, until I come across a blonde

I made a comment about the small french loaves and whether they expand and grow big (playing a little dumb here hahaha) Shes smiles and talks about how they're already baked. She mentions that she doesnt like bread at all, and I accuse her of being Lebanese hehe. It turns out that shes got some german ancestory, and she used to live out further west.

Now although she is a blonde, her teeth are a crooked. Straight teeth plays a vital role in my own attraction switch. So even tho we kid around that it would take her ages to tell her life story about how she ended in my little town. I decided to give this one a miss. Don't have my own place to go for something short, so meh

What I havent done before: Approached an azn chick in this 30 day challenge hehe

What I could do better: Be more central and talk seductively

Day 11

There is a thai food festival out in the city, Muay Thai fighters, Master chefs cooking Thai food, hmm yum. But today it seemed like I wanted to get this one assignment I have left all done and over. I can't stay at home doing work, I reckon going out all the time, has made me hate procrastinating.

Decided to hit a coffee shop, something like Seinfeld, where you have coffee and read or write, good place to do some day game. Except I had to finish this assignment.

Towards the opposite end, a blonde girl is sitting with her parents. I was contemplating about making a direct approach, but decided against it. Had to focus on my assignment. She made once glance at my direction which I held eye contact and smiled. She looked away lol so that was the end of that

I saw a serbian chick I use to date and we said hello to each. Shes actually a pretty fun person, but fate wasn't on our side, so I'm pretty happy just being friends with her too. She taught me the thrill of licking ears, its such a turn on if done right hahaha

Now parking lots in Sydney, they pretty much have a 3 hour limit, before you have to cough up some dosh. With 20 mins left, I decided to head off to boarders. I see a brunette chick checking books on Social Science. Not my strongest subject but hey, lets go

As I walk towards the social science section, we glance at each other for a brief moment, where I give her a smile...and what do you know...she smiles back

I hover around and have a look. Ah huh!! An inconvenient truth. I pick up the book and flick the pages for a bit..3..2..1

LS: Hey,
HB: Hey (Big smile) how you doing.
(I still stumble a bit when they ask me how im doing lol)
LS: I'm just curious, but whats your opinion on the inconvenient truth

We basically talk a bit about the enviorment and I banter a bit. She seems pretty friendly.. good thing I watched 2012 yesterday, pretty much talked about the envionment and how crazy some people go to be enviornmentaly friendly. I accused her of being a tree hugger too lol she loved it

Maybe because i jerked off, but I wasn't on. I felt a bit nervous chatting to her, but proceeded nevertheless. Find out thats shes an arts student and that shes from the mountains. If I was "On" I'll probably tease her, by stating something ridicuously like I heard they breed chicks pretty tough out there, that you're forced to wrestle with bears on a daily basis. Gotta watch out for her hahaha.

She had to use the phone to meet up with a friend, and she left. Ah well, theres always next time. Plus my parking was expiring.

I had indoor soccer today. Our team had lost twice already, the first team being English and the second team being South Americans. Pretty my debut, cause I needed the proper shoes to play it.

Felt good playing, I'm thankful each time I get to play indoor soccer, it makes me feel alive. We won the game 2 - 0. Not bad for my debut in my new work team Now I didn't have much time, but even tho I was sweating pretty bad, I decide to take a stroll to cool down and commit to the challenge.

Day 12

I was sitting across the seas, you can pretty much have a great view of the Sydney Opera House. Across from me is a blonde texting, she eventually takes out a lighter and starts smoking. I usually prefer not to approach chicks who smoke, at the minimum at least till she finishes.

Instead a cute brunette with short hair walks by. I'm like fuck it, so I walk with her.

LS: Hey
HB: Hi
LS: I love your sense of fashion
HB: thank you
HB: Where did you get the creative ideas from.

Basically this is a walking set. She mumbles something as she walks away.

Hmmm, who knows, could think that I'm one of those guys getting people to sign crap. Lol

What I could do better: Maintain my frame, hold my position and keep talking irrespective of the outcome.

Its good to have your sub-concious decision making skills on your side.