If life is easy, there's nothing to remember when you get old. Only there's bitterness for sweetness, tear as well as smile!
loveseeker
Post subject: Re: Kyle's Beginner's Hell - 30 Day Challenge
Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 13:31
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Joined: 19 Apr 2009, 10:08 Posts: 74 Location: Chicago, IL
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Just wanna let you all know I didn't quit. I lost my count of days cuz i got slacked off on following up with FR posts. I'll come back posting more.
Aug. 25th - 15th night Made out with a hot busty black girl within about 15min meeting her via social circle. My friend who's black saw what happen and tried to woo her white friend. I wasn't sure if it was a good idea when my friend was trying to get them home for SNL, considering that they still have classes tomorrow.
Aug. 26th - 16th night Got them out again to meet up at the same bar. Looks like they had pre-game before meeting us. Good sign. but the attraction seemed to lose, we couldn't spike it up. Got amogged by a black guy who tried to ignore us and just handle biz by engaging the HBblack. He wasn't smooth enough tho. I got my HBblack to get him to buy me a shot too.
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If life is easy, there's nothing to remember when you get old. Only there's bitterness for sweetness, tear as well as smile!
loveseeker
Post subject: Re: Kyle's Beginner's Hell - 30 Day Challenge
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 17:54
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I've been going out from time to time, but I didn't follow up with postings.
Here's what happened last week while I still have some memory.
Back to Chicago for my buddy's farewell party. Sep. 2nd - 17th night. Only opened and talked to one girl. Engaging her for about 8 min before she had to get back to her friend. I should've figured out her logistics some time earlier in our convo.
Sep. 3rd - 18th night Only approached and opened a 2 set of HBs, but I got dragged away by my friends. Natural doesn't wing that well.
Sep. 4th - 19th night Crazy night. Opened a 7-8 family bachelorette party girls - married, maid of honor, mother, aunt, sister, etc. Danced with some of them. LOL
Sep. 7th - 20th night Like all other nights, nothing much happened, AA is high and out of state, i dont know why maybe that's due to the fact that there's not much going on in life. however, that shouldn't be the reason, our default state should be self-amusement. still kinda confused, so trying to dance it off, and approach a few set on dance floor, all rejections. Black guys, they don't have to be physically that big, just walked up and said something and start grinding at girls, and the girls are all into that. just sigh...
If life is easy, there's nothing to remember when you get old. Only there's bitterness for sweetness, tear as well as smile!
loveseeker
Post subject: Re: Kyle's Beginner's Hell - 30 Day Challenge
Posted: 22 Sep 2010, 02:57
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Joined: 19 Apr 2009, 10:08 Posts: 74 Location: Chicago, IL
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Sorry about my inconsistency on posting. I've been out but not keeping up with my postings. so i can only count the days I remember in for my challenge. I guess that's why I still don't make much progress. or maybe I don't give enough thoughts on my post sarges. I've been really down lately. Kinda burned out. It sucks. I feel like shit. I just don't have anything to offer. Life is just not going my way. I began to low my standard to maybe approach less attractive girls to see what happen.
Sep. 10th - 21st night Out with my usual natural friend. He came out to meet one of his newly met girl. she's very cute and classy. mix set with 3 girls and 1 guy. The guy was with one of the girls. My friend got his, and then left with the last one and me. It took me a couple min to sum up my courage to grab her hand to dance. As usual my friend's girl was all over him. Natural just good at body language and physical contact. Her attraction for him was skyrocketed. This happened just so natural in the eyes of others. In very beginning with my girl it's okay that I know I have to BT spike as fast as I can. Her clothing style seems traditional compared to other girls, so I decided to take it slower. I spin her and let her spin me. She seemed to like it. cuz we didnt talk in the beginning it began kinda awkward. she kinda start asking questions like my major and stuff. I just don't know how to have fun. prob said something i shouldn't say about her dress. She's cute tho. at the end of the nite I tried to befriend with her friends to get her opened up. I once had 4 or 5 girls' attention at the time. all four faces looking at me. I Still couldn't get # cuz her guy friend just suggested we exchanged. She said that I was smooth talker. I approached with nice guy way hopefully work. but she didn't want to exchange #. I couldn't force it.
Sep. 11th - 22nd night Out with my usual natural friend. He's out having fun with one of his usual girlfriends and a female friend. His girlfriend likes me prob cuz of him also she's seen me with a girl before too. But the other girl, who even tho we partied out before, was just not too willing to talk of course except to my natural friend. So of course she wants to follow him too. What can I do? Only tried to talk to other girls.
At the end of the night, I direct opened 3 black girls set. As usual the 2 hot ones are less receptive and the less attractive one is more receptive. I engaged the less attractive one off and on twice for about 5 min. surprisingly she wanted my #. I knew she was an easy #-closed target. I was like wtf. let her have it and i didn't bother to ask her give me call so that i have her too. She txted afterward and then we txt back and forth just to get to know each other.
Sept. 12 - 23rd night Late night ice cream date with the black girl I met last night. She's been working all day. Low energy. I couldn't BT spike her up. It just winded up interview questioning date. She kept mentioning her financial difficulties. I was like this didnt feel right but I didnt acknowledge. Later on, she began txting me about favors like if she could give me $ to use my credit card to buy her new iphone and stuff. She's a chubby girl but I still like that type tho. Finally I let her know that it was kinda turnoff when we barely know each other, and we only had 15 min ice cream date. of course i paid. second thought now maybe i shouldn't mind if the money could buy some love. I'll be glad to but I never tried before. Sadly I don't have much $ neither.
Sep. 17 - 24th night I was invited to her triple bday party by this cute spanish TA i've been going out with before. It was her other two friends' bday too...where people there are all Spanish speakers. In the beginning we hit off pretty good too. She's older than I'm, but she's got a pleasant personality and hot body. She's got a 5 yr bf back in Spain. She studies linguistics so she's interested in exotic stuff...that means Asian. She said she was always busy but still made out time to hang out with me. I tried to escalate by trying to hold her hands and to put my arm around her shoulder and even to kiss her...only at her cheeks. Every time she'd pull back cuz of her bf. I tried to play it cool and didnt care. I think we've been dating like this for a while before she had to go back to Spain for two weeks. After she came back, it was still okay between us like dinner date; however, I couldn't take it to a whole new level or maybe turning her to a fb. I dont know how ppl or my friends can make girls to wanna do him like a fb. I don't know if she sensed my neediness or whatsoever. She began to be standoffish in the party. Her behavior pretty much suggested that I'm just a friend. Think back...I do like her. that's when i lost the girl every time. Is that hard to find a gf you honestly like?
Sep 18 - night out...couldnt find anyone to go out with and couldnt bring up the courage to go solo. winded out go to movie alone, where I was the only guy sitting among all couples in the theater. Man i've been alone for so long. just wish to end this quicker.
Sep. 21th - 25th day out Accidental Day game! at library today i accidentally caught the DVD when it was dropped from the shelf. Asian good reflex!!! this really cute library clerk opened me. I asked her about where a movie is. My mind is crunching for things to say. Even when I was silent, she asked me if I saw the pursuit of happiness. I just didn't know what to do, acting like cool and stuff like I don't care and let her continue her job. I thought about re-approaching her directly. I kinda followed her a bit, but AA got me and the pressure of being heard by other ppl around. Absolutely AFC. I lost her!! I think she's my type!!! I'll swear that I approach her directly next time I see her there.
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If life is easy, there's nothing to remember when you get old. Only there's bitterness for sweetness, tear as well as smile!
nineteen
Post subject: Re: Kyle's Beginner's Hell - 30 Day Challenge
Posted: 22 Sep 2010, 13:35
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Joined: 03 Mar 2009, 23:48 Posts: 132
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Hey!
Don't give up the fight! LOL, got that from Bob Marley.
We always have those shitty moments where we think to ourselves that we will never get what we want. It's natural to think that way. Just realize that you have to keep pushing yourself. Also, try being more consistent with your posts so you can pin point exactly what you did wrong in an interaction so you could avoid falling under that error a second time.
Seriously, you're not doing that bad at all. At least you're putting yourself out there compared to most people. Keep on working brotha and you'll soon see the light!
Good luck!
Ninteen
loveseeker
Post subject: Re: Kyle's Beginner's Hell - 30 Day Challenge
Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 23:10
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Sep. 25 - 26th night
Open two 2 sets and two 1 set. Out with a couple guys met over the forum. Basically all the sets went like...they talked to me a little while and ejected. I found that direct opening actually buys me more time than my indirect opening.
There was this korean girl sitting by herself. I opened her directly and sat directly in front of her. She thought I was korean cuz i dropped a few korean. She didn't speak english that well and she was happy to find that I'd speak korean. I think I was too aggressive to scare her away. She told me she was 42 yr old!!!!!!!!!!!! I had no slight idea.
Sep. 27 - 27th night
Out with one of my black roommate. He's about only 20 yr old and has been with plenty of diff girls already. However, he doesn't need to practice this PUA stuff so i don't expect him to do any approaches. He just stood there staring chicks all night. Even tho I tried to have him wing me. He doesnt know what to do.
Open two group sets - pretty much shot me down
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If life is easy, there's nothing to remember when you get old. Only there's bitterness for sweetness, tear as well as smile!
Evazero89
Post subject: Re: Kyle's Beginner's Hell - 30 Day Challenge
Posted: 27 Sep 2010, 15:49
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Joined: 05 Dec 2009, 21:06 Posts: 22
Bootcamp Graduate: Jan 21 2011 Chicago
loveseeker wrote:
Sep. 25 - 26th night
Open two 2 sets and two 1 set.
Kyle. You are being lazy about Sept. 25!!! Let's hang out again this weekend!!!
Peace out Terry
loveseeker
Post subject: Re: Kyle's Beginner's Hell - 30 Day Challenge
Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 09:29
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Joined: 19 Apr 2009, 10:08 Posts: 74 Location: Chicago, IL
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I finally could follow up with my postings. I've been doing this way more than all 30 days and it's part of my life now. I'll try to come back with some post thought on the challenge. Overall, the 30 day challenge is the key to take my game up a level. It was during this time I got my first SNL. Now I know why I couldn't get any results after the BC. That's because I need to practice what I've learned consistently.
(I don't remember much on some of nights)
Oct 1. - 28th night ...
Oct 2. - 29th night Went to this gays bar on campus. It's usually crowded. Tonight was not bad. Trying to warm up by chatting with a few of guys and girls. Approached a few sets. I didnt get blown out like before. I become calm and collected suddenly. For example, I approached a dancing set. Gently body turn her. Solid eye contact. A little dance-off in front of her. I was then locked in. We began to talk as we lightly danced. I think I made a mistake by verbally escalating too fast and too bold. She slightly pulled back. That's okay. Next.
Saw this black chick sitting by herself next to our table, so I opened "You seem bored. You look like you need someone cool to talk to" as I pulled up a chair sitting next to her. She was very receptive. She was a shy girl. She's actually pretty cute except her hair. I like girls with long hair. I didn't use any routines or whatsoever. Just vibed and flowed. I asked her to dance after 5 min. She was all over me, so basically the entire night was like we take a rest to chat and dance here and there. I was trying to kiss her. She didnt want to later on I find out that she just didnt want to give in on the first night.
Anyway, text her next day, and she kept texting me ever since. Basically I feel like it was her chasing me. I pretty much didnt do much. This has been for a couple days, and then she asked me to come over to her place....we escalated pretty fast with her friends in the balcony that we rushed to her room and I took all her clothes off, and then her roommate was freaking out kicking very hard at her door trying to stop us. I was holy shit. How am I gonna pull this off? I pretended to leave and had her walk me to my car. She was so turned-on that I told her to follow me back to my place. Of course I'd promise to drive her back afterward. Basically she left everything behind....wallet, cellphone, bra, etc. It seems like she wants me to be her boyfriend now.
Oct. 8 - 30th night Tonight was a fairly good night. Met up with a friend at a club. She got a table service and we came in with all guys and girls. Her girl friends are looking good too. They're pretty cool to me too. I try not to hit on all the girls in the group cuz they came with a couple the Asian guys. That's their resource, plus they're prob paying for everything, which they really did. I know I got advantage over other guys in club. Also I'm in state.
I remember at one point that half of guys in the club were forming a circle and staring at this 3 set. One of the girls is black. She's in a tight white dress. Based on my observation, she's 35 - 23 -36. HB9.5 Smoking hot. I excused from my friends and approached them, or her. They weren't so welcoming. I didnt expect them to, but I kept plowing. 2 of girls ejected. HB9.5 stayed. To my surprise, she actually found me interesting. I knew I locked in. We danced a little. She touched me and laughed and everything. I felt her body. Firm and tight. I told her that we had a table and took her hand to lead the way. Pretty much she was hooked and into me then. She didn't want to sit cuz of her friends. She took my hand to find her friend.
As we regrouped her friend, this big white guy who's been staring all night at my friends saw the opportunity and came in after I pumped up HB9.5's BT level. Note BT level is transferred to other guys. He grabbed HB9.5 by shoulders with both hands. She didnt return the kino and leaned away. I thought he wouldn't get anywhere, so I told HB9.5 to come find me after you're done with this guy cuz I dont wanna stand around waiting for them to be done. Of course she didn't come back cuz she was occupied by that big white guy like that.
I made a big mistake by being a bit over-confident and not stepping up to amog that big white guy. Fear of competition when she's actually liked you already. Let him take over just like that. I think of what would a black guy do at situation like this. They'd never back off like that.
If life is easy, there's nothing to remember when you get old. Only there's bitterness for sweetness, tear as well as smile!
loveseeker
Post subject: Re: Kyle's Beginner's Hell - 30 Day Challenge
Posted: 07 Dec 2010, 21:58
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Joined: 19 Apr 2009, 10:08 Posts: 74 Location: Chicago, IL
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Sorry for coming back with the late post-challenge thought. I completed the challenge, and I've been still going out now and then. I went through 30 nights out. Although it was not a consistent 30 nights straight, I kept at it. Too bad I didnt have every single night FR written down. It's absolutely true that to be good at something takes dedication and discipline. The hardest part during this challenge was actually to bring yourself out there regardless of any reasons. Sometimes, I just didnt feel like going or couldnt find anybody to go out with. Finding the motivation to push yourself is a habit. Good life begins with good habits. Being charming is the sum of various habits....so start cultivating them, all my Asian bro's!
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