Jake Lee's 30 Day Direct Challenge

Hello brothers, I will be starting this challange Feb. 11, 2009. I have to say, I have a hard time going direct, but I will try my best. I usually go indirect, which is pretty easy for me, but I realize that I am not taking any risks, and therefore I really am avoiding the whole reason I am talking to HBs in the first place. I will update my progress as often as I can! Anyone up for being my big brother in this?

I'm in day 7 of a 30 day challenge myself. Though I should be posting about it. I'll try to show some support for your progress.

Day 1 - Feb. 11, 2009

Man, this was a tough first day. I really spent most of it building up the courage to say these few simple words, "Hi, you are absolutely beautiful." I was being too picky about my sets. I even made up stupid excuses to not open, such as "She's waiting on line", "She is with a group", "She looks too busy". But, I was determined to do this, and I would not let myself go home until I had performed at least ONE direct approach on a girl who I was genuinely attracted to. Night was falling on the city, and soon, the stores would be empty, I had to act...

I see a really cute girl HB8.5 coming down the stairs...I quickly pretend to browse through some CDs. I see her in the corner of my eye...she's with a friend. I walk over and we make eye contact. I say to myself "Here's your chance, DO IT!" Without thinking twice I say:

Jake: Hi, I just had to tell you...you are absoultely...
Her: Thanks! *beeming?* (She knew what I was going to say? WTF?)
Jake: Be-beautiful (lmao I stuttered)...uh my name is Jake, what's yours?
Her: HB8.5 (Don't remember her name at all)
Jake: Cool, is that your friend? *I introduce myself to friend* (The friend looked like she was ready to walk away, and leave us alone when I said this, but I'm so used to pulling people into convo, it just happened.)

At this point, HB8.5 is smiling and waiting for me to say something else. She is swinging her bag back a forth like a little girl, body language totally facing me.

[A = Attract]
Jake: Why are you swinging your bag like that? Are you nervous or something? =)
Her: *Shrugs shoulders, looks away with a smile, and stops swinging bag.*

[B = Banter]
Jake: Anyway, do you guys go to school around here?
Her: No, we go to Manhattan College
Jake: Oh, that's in the Bronx right?
Her: Yeah
Jake: Cool, what's your major?
Her: Bio-Chem
Jake: Whoa, thats a really tough major... (I should have teased her on this...maybe something like, Why arent you studying? =) You shouldn't be out on a weekday, don't make me tell your mommy and daddy.)

*Silence*
5 seconds goes by
*Should I ask her number?....Eh too awkward...*
10 seconds...
*Holy shit I stalled out, I don't know what to say...*

Jake: Well, it was nice meeting you.
Her: Ok. (still standing there, body language facing me, smiling, possibly waiting for me to number close???)
Jake: Bye! *FUCK*

I look around for the friend...she walked away. Obviously she wanted to leave us alone.
Finally, I could go home.
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Key Points: Memorize thier names and use them in convo. More teasing, more confidence, learn how to build comfort, ask her out, and get the number close.

Hey can anyone give some advice for creating comfort with HBs?

Jake, great job taking the challenge. It sounds like you're doing well already! Just keep up the good work and don't forget to pull the trigger. Get her number when the conversation is at the high point.

For day game approaches, even if you have nothing else, go for the instant date. I assume you are near a coffee shop. Even if you don't think it's going well, try anyway. This will give you a better sense in the future of when to instant date, which is essential in day game.

Day 2,3,4,5

2-set, both WF, HB7 and HB8
In a bar:

Jake: Hi, I just had to say that you guys are fucking beautiful.
Them: ....(blank face), Thanks!
Jake: How are you guys doing tonight?
Them: Pretty good.
Jake: Where are you guys from?
Them: Oh we live like 2 blocks away from here, but we're originally from _____
Jake: Oh cool. So, I was looking for some new shoes today and I saw some dude sporting Uggs! Isn't that weird?
Them: Oh we've seen that before, its pretty common in ______
Jake: *Dammit, they didn't think it was funny* Oh well I thought it was alittle strange hehe.

We chat some more about other stuff and one of the girls is laughing hysterically at everything I say and they are also whispering stuff to each other...wtf?

Jake: Is she alright? Is she like drunk or something?
HB8: Yeah she's high on crystal meth and so am I.
Jake: *WTF??* Oh wow are you serious? Thats crazy! What does it feel like to be high on crystal meth?
HB8: Blah, blah, blah.
They tell me thier bfs are coming soon. They also say that thier bfs are high on crystal meth and get very violent, and I should get going. So I leave the set.
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Key Points: Asked too many boring questions, tried to tell a funny story and backfired (not using it again), need to create good DHV stories.
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HB9 Waitress (I accidentally bumped into her and almost knocked her over)
In bar, later that night:

Jake: Hi, real quick, (kino on arm) I almost knocked you over a while ago, there were so many people around I didn't get a chance to formally apologize. So...sorry about that. =)
HB9 Waitress: Oh, its ok, it happens.
Jake: Oh and by the way you are very beautiful!
HB9 Waitress: Oh thank you so much (gives me kino on arm).
Jake: Do you have a bf? *I shouldn't have asked this lol*
HB9 Waitress: Yeah. Sorry. (She is very apologetic and gives me more kino)
Jake: It must suck that you have to work on Valentines day.
HB9 Waitress: Yeah, it does.
Jake: Ok, well I'll let you get back to work.
HB9 Waitress: Ok, thanks! (gives me more kino with smile)
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Key Points: Don't ask about the bf!! I always find myself doing this...they always have bfs!!! Should have tried to number close at the end of the night anyway...and get together as friends? Any advice for gaming hired guns?
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2set, HB7 and HB8
In bar:

Jake: Hi, you guys look absolutely gourgeous tonight.
Them: Thanks!
Jake: How are you guys doing?
Them: Great! How are you?
Jake: I'm feeling awesome! How do you guys know each other?
Them: We're best friends and we're out on a date together tonight. (They both start laughing...inside joke?)
Jake: Oh really? Well you guys make a great couple!
Then they mention that they both have bfs, the conversation got boring, and I ejected.
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Key Points: Have some canned material to use in set when conversation gets boring. Have some interesting questions prepared (ones that will spark enthusiatic opinions). DHV stories, humorous stories. Generally, have more BT material ready to go.
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HB8 Waitress:
Jake: Hi, you are absolutely beautiful!
Her: Thanks, what can I get you to drink?
Jake: Oh i'll have a beer.
Her: Ok.
Bar was very busy, didn't re-open...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Key Points: Try to approach hired guns when its less busy or earilier in the night...I think she was used to being called beautiful and just shrugged it off like it was nothing. Maybe indirect game would have been better??

A few major things I think I need to work on:

- DHV stories
- Humorous stories
- Interesting conversational threads / opinion questions.
- Routines: (Rings routine? Strawberry fields? I know these might be dated, but couldn't hurt to try them out in emergencies)
- Isolating and building comfort.

Feel free to add anymore suggestions or advice bros!

Day 6, 7, 8

I'm really trying to push myself by staying in-set long enough to build comfort and number close. I'm also realizing that I don't have enough material (funny stories, dhv stories, etc.). So, I'm going to try to build up my stack alittle more. I know that stacks are like crutches, but I have to start with something. I would love to start doing more natural stuff, in fact, I'm working on just doing spontaneous conversation, LISTENING is KEY! I'm noticing that my "spontaneous conversation" is usually about school or work. I need to stop asking about that crap...but I guess you can make anything interesting if your frame is strong enough...

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Hired Gun HB8
Mall

Jake: Hi, didn't this store used to be called something else?
Her: Yeah, it was previously ______.
Jake: Actually, I don't really care about that =). I just wanted to come over and tell you you're really cute.
Her: Thanks!
Jake: So how long have you been working here?
Her: blah, blah, blah
Jake: Do you go to school around here?
Her: Yeah I go to ____College
Jake: Cool I used to go to ______ University
Her: Cool what did you study?

We do this for a while and I DHV about working in the ICU. I also advise her on some career stuff. It was kind of boring conversation but it flowed pretty well. I went for the number close...this is how it went.

Jake: So it was nice meeting you, we should get in touch sometime.
Her: Yeah, I mean I'm around, so stop in anytime.
Jake: Oh, I mean do you have a number I can reach you at?
Her: Oh, I can't.
Jake: Oh, is it because you're working?
Her: No, I have a boyfriend.
Jake: Oh, ok, well it was nice meeting you!

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Sporty HB8.5
Mall

Jake: Hi, I just had to tell you that you are absolutely beautiful.
Her: Thanks, what's your name?
Jake: My name's Jake what's yours?
Her: Sporty HB8.5.
Jake: Cool, do you go to school nearby?
Her: Yeah I go to _________ High School
Jake: (DAMMIT!) Oh, cooool!

This girl is really shy, but her body language is totally open to me and she is hanging around, wanting me to continue the conversation. Actually, we even had a couple of awkward moments and she still stayed!! Too bad she was in high school, or I would have tried to number closed. I actually ejected after a while because I knew she was too young for me.

I'm really starting to grasp the power of direct openers. It sets the mood for a romantic relationship immediately. Also, you can usually find out right away if that girl has a bf or not. I'm finding that direct openers are very powerful especially during the day. For some reason it's less effective for me at night...anyone else experiencing this?

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Cutie HB8
Supermarket

Jake: Hi, I saw you as I was coming in and I had to come over and say you are really cute.
Her: (Beeming) Oh thank you so much. I have a boyfriend though...=)
Jake: Haha, well it figures...=)
Her: Thats a great compliment though, you made my day, I can't wait to tell my bf.

Question: Should I keep gaming even if she says she has a bf? Also, what's a good response to the "I have a bf" line? Thanks!

Hey man

I am currently trying to figure out how to properly do comfort game as well. For now, I am going to write out some stories bring them out in interactions. I think something you can try if you don't like to talk about work/school, talk about hobbies and passions, or interesting experiences.

Tommy

Try stupid stuff, Matador helped me get out of the funk by having me walk into sets and saying

"Hi, I'm Kevin, I'm a giant douche and have a small penis"