Me: Hi, I think you're really attractive. Her: Thanks. (w/ a weak smile) Me: so anyone tell you that smoking is not attractive Her: Nope. (her friend hears the entire approach and pulls her away)
Next set:
Me: Hi gorgeous, what's your name? Her: ----- Me: my name is hank, how do you girls know each other Her: from work Me: I see...work sounds boring...so what brings you girls here? Her: we just having a girls night out Me: Me too, i'm having a night out looking for girls Her: really? too bad i'm not hereto help you get laid Me: uhhh...( i eject the set)
Saturday November 29th, went clubbing again (I am a certified club whore)
Me: Hi, I think you are incredibly gorgeous! Her: what? Me: I said you're gorgeous! Her: (she looks at me with a puzzled look)
I promptly eject the set.
How are you lead-in questions and follow up stories? looks like your follow up could be a bump in the road.
Joined: 10 Sep 2007, 01:41 Posts: 373 Location: The OC, California
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Hank Wrote
Me: Me too, i'm having a night out looking for girls Her: really? too bad i'm not hereto help you get laid
Thats awesome bro. I love this stuff. You were completely honest. Thats tuff but completly the way you should be going!!!
Keep pushing Hank. Sounds like your really starting to get this under controll. In the club I'd grab her shoulder and get really really close to the ear and then say "I think your really fucking adorable"
Keep pushing. At day 30 you'll have balls of steel
hank
Post subject: Re: Hank 30 day direct challenge
Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 21:55
Alumni
Joined: 16 Sep 2008, 22:29 Posts: 51 Location: LA (BC: LA, Oct 08)
I still eject early and sometimes don't feel confident with following up.
For today, I went to the mall for lunch and I was fully aware that I was planning to go direct. While eating lunch, I told myself,
"you have nothing to lose. you probably won't see her again anyways" then I said to myself "Just enjoy the conversation and have fun with her. remember you don't need anything from her"
I finished my food and walked around the mall once. then I sat down because I allowed 2 targets to pass me by and I didn't even open them. While sitting down, I text messaged Tank.
then I go up walked into Gap, didn't see anything. walked into Footlocker.
finally, I walked into to Aldo and the female employee was organizing the shoes. I walked up to her and said:
Me: looks like you got a mess in here Her: yeah (she does looks at me briefly and resumes working and I stand there frozen for about 10 seconds, then I tell myself just tell her she's cute) Me: anyone tell you that you're cute? (while i say this she's not looking at me) Her: (she turns her face) thanks. Me: you worked here long? Her: yeah for about 1 year now Me: cool...umm... i'm looking for some dress shoes Her: okay, well, let me know which ones you to try on and I'll help you out
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The rest of the conversation was very business like. I tried on 2 pairs of shoes and didn't buy anything. I left the store and told myself "ask for her number or ask her to hang out"
I walked around the mall one more time and decide to get back in the office. Going direct during the day makes me feel all funny inside. I wanna do it again tomorrow. It's exciting and it causes me a shit load of anxiety.
Loren247
Post subject: Re: Hank 30 day direct challenge
Posted: 02 Dec 2008, 02:13
Warrior
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 03:55 Posts: 101
Quote:
tomorrow is Sunday and I will not be clubbing, so it's gonna be a challenge to go direct during the day time. I'm planning to go to the mall, i'll do my best not to chicken out and start talking to her.
Good to know I'm not the only one feeling this anxiety. Keep at it.
hank
Post subject: Re: Hank 30 day direct challenge
Posted: 03 Dec 2008, 00:51
Alumni
Joined: 16 Sep 2008, 22:29 Posts: 51 Location: LA (BC: LA, Oct 08)
f*ck....it's like 11:49 right now and I have not gone direct....i'm done for the day. Tank, I owe you another 10 bucks. (so far it is 30 bucks total)
I went to South Coast Plaza and there were like 5 targets that i just let pass me by. I tell myself "go turn around, chase after her...who cares" but I can't seem to take action. hopefully tomorrow will be better.
hank
Post subject: Re: Hank 30 day direct challenge
Posted: 04 Dec 2008, 09:34
Alumni
Joined: 16 Sep 2008, 22:29 Posts: 51 Location: LA (BC: LA, Oct 08)
yesterday Dec 3, 2008...i went out to a local bar to have a drink w/ some buddies.
i went direct on the waitress (this is after I read Zan Perrion's chapter in the Game see page 136)
the waitress comes to our table and takes our drink orders. when she gets to me, I open.
Me: hmm. i haven't seen you here before, what's your name? Her: my name is ------. Me: Mines is hank. I'll have a heineken.
Later when she comes back with the drinks and takes our food choices, I keep going.
Me: My, my, my...I'll have the Quesadilla...what do you think about the quesadilla? Her: It's delicous Me: I sure bet it is
later she comes back with the food
Me: you must like me, you're coming back again aren't you? Her: yes, i'll be back again (sarcastic joking manner)
she comes back to ask us if everything is good
Me: see, i told ya, you'd be back...sorry I haven't called you lately Her: I know...you're such a prick Me: I must say, not only are you cute, you're feisty too Her: why thank you
I do not number close her because I know she won't give her number in front of all my guy friends. (this is also what Zan recommends in the book, see page 137) I do plan to go back and talk to her some more and probably get an instant date from her next time I show up to that bar.
hank
Post subject: Re: Hank 30 day direct challenge
Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 21:56
Alumni
Joined: 16 Sep 2008, 22:29 Posts: 51 Location: LA (BC: LA, Oct 08)
Sorry about not posting on a daily basis. I've just changed real estate companies.
For Thursday Dec 4, 2008. I went to the mall for lunch and as I left the mall thinking I wasn't gonna find anything, then as I leave, I see this girl outside smoking. I nervously go up to her and say: Me: What's up Her: not much (she looks away) Me: hey, I think you're cute Her: (turns around with a surprised look and smiles) thanks. Me: so did you see anything good today? Her: no Me: I mean, did you see anything you liked to buy? Her: well, i was looking for a jacket but they didn't have my size, well, I've got to go. Nice talking to you. (she kills her cigarette and leaves)
*************
For Friday Dec 5, 2008. I went clubbing with a few buddies.
Had 2 quick drinks at the bar and was ready to go. First set was a 4 set outside smoking patio. I walk up to these girls and without saying nothing, I just smile at the one who gave me eye contact. she smiles back and then I wave hi to her. she giggles but doesn't wave hi in return. so i go up to her and say,
Me: I thought it was just gonna be the two of us. Her: really? Me: yeah, why did you bring your friends Her: my bad, should I get them to leave right now? Me: nah, they look like they cool...so do what is the first thing you notice about a person when you first meet them? Her: their smile and their height Me: well, i'm glad you noticed I'm pretty tall for a 5 feet 6 guy right? Her: (laughing) you're funny Me: thanks, and i think you're really beautiful Her: awhh. thanks. you're so sweet Me: yup! I am.
So we talk about where we are originally from and what hobbies we enjoy. I go and number close her but she says she doesn't give out her number to guys she meets at clubs. of course she's lying to me but i realize it's all good. I really don't need anything from a chick and just wanna have fun. I had my fun with her and enjoyed our short lived encounter. I then go on to the next set, but for the rest of the night, nothing hooks. It's all good.
*************
For Saturday Dec 6, 2008. I go clubbing by myself.
I didn't have any good sets either. All three I opened indirect but then went direct once I felt the set hooked.
First Set Me: Ken and Barbie Opener Her: well, i think a girl has the right to help her boyfriend out because most guys have bad fashion sense Me: what do you think about my outfit Her: (she looks at it) it's good but nothing really catches my eye. Me: Oh, i see. you think i should look flashier? Her: i don't know, you should ask your friends
( i eject this set because the vibe wasn't good, she seemed like she had other stuff on her mind)
Second Set Me: ken and barbie opener Her: well, i don't care how my boyfriend dresses as long as he treats me good Me: cool. i think that's the right way to see it. so where are your girlfriends at? Her: they are inside dancing Me: you wanna introduce me to them? Her: if i find them inside Me: sooooooooo, that's a yes then? Her: i guess Me: are you girls celebrating anything tonight? Her: not really. just having fun Me: I see. you know what? Her: what? Me: I think you've got a really pretty smile Her: thanks. Me: really i truly mean it when i say it. Her: thanks.
(her emotional state stayed the same and my direct compliment didn't really get her in a better mood, so then i eject)
Third Set Me: ken and barbie opener Her: well, why don't you ask your girlfriend Me: i'm single Her: Oh I see. Me: well, i saw you earlier and didn't have a chance to talk to you but now that I do, i had to say you're very pretty. Her: (smiles and laughs) thank you Me: so you come here often? Her: not really, i was here a couple of months ago Me: i like the crowd here because it's got good energy Her: well, the last time i was here it was much more packed Me: really? the few times I here it's never packed and that's why I like it. I don't like packed clubs. it's hard to get a drink and everyone is pushing everyone for walking space. Her: yeah. (at this point, I don't know why I don't go into comfort but instead eject)
************
Sunday Dec 7, 2008. NO direct sets. just feeling lazy and I had fun at the reunion and met my fellow APB brothers. Tank, I owe you another 10 bucks (40 total)
Loren247
Post subject: Re: Hank 30 day direct challenge
Posted: 08 Dec 2008, 04:30
Warrior
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 03:55 Posts: 101
hank wrote:
Sorry about not posting on a daily basis. I've just changed real estate
Third Set Me: ken and barbie opener Her: well, why don't you ask your girlfriend Me: i'm single Her: Oh I see. Me: well, i saw you earlier and didn't have a chance to talk to you but now that I do, i had to say you're very pretty. Her: (smiles and laughs) thank you Me: so you come here often? Her: not really, i was here a couple of months ago Me: i like the crowd here because it's got good energy Her: well, the last time i was here it was much more packed Me: really? the few times I here it's never packed and that's why I like it. I don't like packed clubs. it's hard to get a drink and everyone is pushing everyone for walking space. Her: yeah. (at this point, I don't know why I don't go into comfort but instead eject)
************
Sunday Dec 7, 2008. NO direct sets. just feeling lazy and I had fun at the reunion and met my fellow APB brothers. Tank, I owe you another 10 bucks (40 total)
I think, you killed it when you said you were single...
"My girlfriends differ in opinion." Could have been a better rejoinder.
Good with the hiredgun. I shall have to do that.
Apollo
Post subject: Re: Hank 30 day direct challenge
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 10:41
Hungry Ghost
Joined: 20 Dec 2008, 10:32 Posts: 2
hank wrote:
Me: see, i told ya, you'd be back...sorry I haven't called you lately Her: I know...you're such a prick Me: I must say, not only are you cute, you're feisty too Her: why thank you
Nice sh*t-test. Probably weren't expecting such a blunt crass answer
Woulda been hella funny if you said something like. "You like me because I'm a prick. There aren't enough pricks in your life."
Apollo
Post subject: Re: Hank 30 day direct challenge
Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 10:57
Hungry Ghost
Joined: 20 Dec 2008, 10:32 Posts: 2
hank wrote:
Sorry about not posting on a daily basis. I've just changed real estate companies.
For Thursday Dec 4, 2008. I went to the mall for lunch and as I left the mall thinking I wasn't gonna find anything, then as I leave, I see this girl outside smoking. I nervously go up to her and say: Me: What's up Her: not much (she looks away) Me: hey, I think you're cute Her: (turns around with a surprised look and smiles) thanks. Me: so did you see anything good today? Her: no Me: I mean, did you see anything you liked to buy? Her: well, i was looking for a jacket but they didn't have my size, well, I've got to go. Nice talking to you. (she kills her cigarette and leaves)
*************
For Friday Dec 5, 2008. I went clubbing with a few buddies.
Had 2 quick drinks at the bar and was ready to go. First set was a 4 set outside smoking patio. I walk up to these girls and without saying nothing, I just smile at the one who gave me eye contact. she smiles back and then I wave hi to her. she giggles but doesn't wave hi in return. so i go up to her and say,
Me: I thought it was just gonna be the two of us. Her: really? Me: yeah, why did you bring your friends Her: my bad, should I get them to leave right now? Me: nah, they look like they cool...so do what is the first thing you notice about a person when you first meet them? Her: their smile and their height Me: well, i'm glad you noticed I'm pretty tall for a 5 feet 6 guy right? Her: (laughing) you're funny Me: thanks, and i think you're really beautiful Her: awhh. thanks. you're so sweet Me: yup! I am.
So we talk about where we are originally from and what hobbies we enjoy. I go and number close her but she says she doesn't give out her number to guys she meets at clubs. of course she's lying to me but i realize it's all good. I really don't need anything from a chick and just wanna have fun. I had my fun with her and enjoyed our short lived encounter. I then go on to the next set, but for the rest of the night, nothing hooks. It's all good.
*************
For Saturday Dec 6, 2008. I go clubbing by myself.
I didn't have any good sets either. All three I opened indirect but then went direct once I felt the set hooked.
First Set Me: Ken and Barbie Opener Her: well, i think a girl has the right to help her boyfriend out because most guys have bad fashion sense Me: what do you think about my outfit Her: (she looks at it) it's good but nothing really catches my eye. Me: Oh, i see. you think i should look flashier? Her: i don't know, you should ask your friends
( i eject this set because the vibe wasn't good, she seemed like she had other stuff on her mind)
Second Set Me: ken and barbie opener Her: well, i don't care how my boyfriend dresses as long as he treats me good Me: cool. i think that's the right way to see it. so where are your girlfriends at? Her: they are inside dancing Me: you wanna introduce me to them? Her: if i find them inside Me: sooooooooo, that's a yes then? Her: i guess Me: are you girls celebrating anything tonight? Her: not really. just having fun Me: I see. you know what? Her: what? Me: I think you've got a really pretty smile Her: thanks. Me: really i truly mean it when i say it. Her: thanks.
(her emotional state stayed the same and my direct compliment didn't really get her in a better mood, so then i eject)
Third Set Me: ken and barbie opener Her: well, why don't you ask your girlfriend Me: i'm single Her: Oh I see. Me: well, i saw you earlier and didn't have a chance to talk to you but now that I do, i had to say you're very pretty. Her: (smiles and laughs) thank you Me: so you come here often? Her: not really, i was here a couple of months ago Me: i like the crowd here because it's got good energy Her: well, the last time i was here it was much more packed Me: really? the few times I here it's never packed and that's why I like it. I don't like packed clubs. it's hard to get a drink and everyone is pushing everyone for walking space. Her: yeah. (at this point, I don't know why I don't go into comfort but instead eject)
************
Sunday Dec 7, 2008. NO direct sets. just feeling lazy and I had fun at the reunion and met my fellow APB brothers. Tank, I owe you another 10 bucks (40 total)
I love the sh*t tests these chicks throw out. Nice work, dude. Courage requires action and you're taking action.
I'd say never repeat a compliment and never repeat an opener. So saying something like "When I say it I mean it" is approval seeking.
When she says, "why don't you ask your GF" you reply, "Their biased - they all do photo shoots for Versace"
I had one girl ask me, "where's your wife?" I replied, "Where's yours?"
Talk about a lame sh*t-test.
If you eject when the girl sh*t tests you, she thinks to herself, "this guy can't stand up to me, how can he stand up to anyone else?" Stand your ground, come up with some witty comeback or retort, and then eject on your own terms. There's no one standing next to her with a gun to her head forcing her to stay there and talk to you. She can leave at any time and so can you, just leave when YOU want to leave.
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