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 Post subject: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2009, 18:15 
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DAY 1

I decided to do this last night and was very enthusiastic about starting my day today.

I head out to work. No chicks I find attractive. I was very surprised because when the train stops around Union Square much more attractive girls usually get on...but not today...
So I didn't open anyone by the time I got to work, feeling disappointed I anticipated my departure from work.

I decided to get off Union Square and wander around looking for sets. Now there were a few girls I should have approached but AA kicked in. I ended up walking back home and on my way back, a few more girls I didn't open.

What I should do better tomorrow
I should say "Hi" to all the eye contact approach invitations. All the girls I wanted to open gave me such eye contact that lasted 3 seconds but I bitched out...

That's $10...

I could have started this thread on the first day I make a direct approach but why lie to myself?


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 Post subject: Re: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2009, 22:33 
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Do some warm up sets. I'm not talking about talking to strangers and asking for directions and having regular conversation with them. Do some warm up sets where your ONLY intention is to approach.

I've talked to old people on the bus and had great conversation with them. They are wise beyond the years. The last guy I talked to made me stop wanting to stay home because he was talking about how his 2 grand children and how differently they've grown up to be. One stays home all the time and one goes out and hangs out with friends. He says when you stay home, you make no new experiences and you have no fun. I'm digressing, but I felt touched speaking to this old Chinese man. But how did it affect my state for approaching girls? It had 0 effect. I still couldn't approach women for shit, but I was talkative with him. He's not what I wanted. I wanted some pussy!

I was out on Tuesday doing some day game with some friends. I did 2 sets total. The first set for me, was the HARDEST set. I think I was walking around for an hour and got something to eat, but I didn't want to do nothing. We see this girl by herself reading a book. I looked at my friends, they looked at me. In I go. Boy, did my mood lighten up! It was so easy. Why couldn't I do it 30 minutes ago? The next set was 100% easier. Cuz I had gotten the first one out of the way and realized, "Hey this bad at all. It's actually FUN!"

So, give it a shot. Get your first one out of the way and the subsequent ones will be a lot easier for you to approach. Just go up say, "Hi, I think you're absolutely gorgeous. I'm X."

Good Luck
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 Post subject: Re: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2009, 18:37 
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Hey Juggernaut, thanks for the advice! It's still hard for me to go direct because I've been very wired into indirect so it's a huge leap for me and I'm taking it one step at a time to convert over...while losing money in the process.

So...

Day 2
I'm pretty high energy today because I participated in a university orientation in the morning and it got my socializing engine rolling. So I hit up the South Street Seaport Mall...nada. I was like a vulture, scanning for HBs to go direct on. So a side question, does going direct on Hired Guns considered meeting the daily direct quota? Or do I get a deductible?

Anyway, I ended up walking over to Battery Park hoping for a higher HB population. Well apparently it's mostly children with their parents...

There were 2 notable HBs that I should have opened and could have while I was on my way to and from Battery Park. Here was my problem though, I totally froze, not expecting to meet a HB and they come up around a corner.

So it's getting later now and I need to start heading to my evening job and I get anxious and even close to desperate to open. When I got to work, I even stepped out for 15 minutes to walk around the block to find a girl to go direct on. Another side question, when does day game end? When the sun goes down? lol.

All in all, I failed.

I am designating FunLovingTeddyBear as my wingman, so dude, I owe you $20.

What I did well
-I said "Hi" to any girl that looked my way and most of them say "Hi" shyly and walk away. Also that's jsut opening and I didnt go direct so that doesnt count.
-I have now a very clear image of the type of girls I like, I have noticed the HBs that I failed to open today very chesty. I remember talking to FLTB about the type of girls we liked and I remember saying that body type didn't matter, as long as she was cute and had a good personality. But now, ever since switching to direct, I realized that I want chicks with big titties haha - huge leap I should say lol. So now it makes it easier to filter out the girls I am looking for.

What I can do better tomorrow
-For every girl I say "Hi" to, follow it up with something else and plow.
-I should turn back on missed HBs like I should have done today. Chase and open!

I also need some clarification...
-Does going direct on a friend of a friend count (someone you just met)?

I can't wait until tomorrow! I plan on heading to Union Square an hour before I have to get to work to get this shit poppin!


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 Post subject: Re: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 17 Jul 2009, 00:38 
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Edo,

Make me your designated wing so I can have $20!!!!!!! LOL
Sure go direct on a hired gun. They're absolutely a lot easier. I've never done the challenge. The challenge is for yourself and the success/improvement is your own. I guess it's up to you to decide.

Don't try to open direct by simply memorizing a line. FEEL IT. If she's gorgeous, then tell her she's fucking gorgeous. Girls smell it when you're being ingenuous and when you are being REAL.
I personally don't bother opening at all if she's not at least cute. And if she's cute, it should put a smile on your face. Go in there and express your intent.

Opening is the easy part. Think of how much fun you'll have AFTER the approach. So get the easy shit handled!

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 Post subject: Re: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 17 Jul 2009, 07:44 
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hey Edo, doing great, I'll do the same say hi to girl that looked at me.
if there's a 2+ sets, do you try to isolate the target and go direct on her ? or you just go direct to the girl in the group


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PostPosted: 17 Jul 2009, 12:20 
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edo wrote:
Another side question, when does day game end? When the sun goes down? lol.


I'm doing "day game" from 5.30pm to 8 or 9pm during the weekday. In my mind the distinction would be, night game is in a club/bar/lounge environment, and/or after 10pm.



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 Post subject: Re: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2009, 08:45 
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Day 3 Friday

So I failed at day game. AA is way too much in the day time.

Met up with FLTB and friend for some night game. We hit up this sports barsy/lounge which was dead but the place was awesome because it has a third floor terrace (too bad it was so humid and just rained), will definitely check out the place again.

Went to a restaurant/bar with target-rich Latina girls (FLTB's type haha and I can now understand why). We're chilling for a bit and I see a HB9 all the way at the end of the bar, of course I thought she was probably a lot lower since I seem to have bad long range vision...Do you guys ever see a chick and thought she was hot until you got closer? Well, this happened to me often...but anyway I go up to the end of the bar and take a closer look at her and she was still a HB9! So I went in direct...

Approach 1
Me: *kino turn her* Hi, you look absolutely gorgeous tonight.
HB9: Thank you *shy smile*
Me: Are you with the bachelorette party?
HB9: Oh no, I'm just with my friends. *introduces friends
Me: So what are you guys doing? Waiting for tables? (After the end of the bar, it becomes a dining area).
HB9: No, just hanging around.
Me: Well listen, me and my friends have a table in the front, why don't you guys join us later?
HB9: Ok.
Me: *Looks around* Would you happen to now where the restroom is? (I know! Lame way to eject but I really had to piss and I didn't know where it was lol)
HB9: *Points me to the restroom*

Approach 2
Two girls ended up sitting next to me with their back turned and I decided to open one as I noticed her friend left her.

Me: Hi, how are you tonight?
HBHonduran: Good.
Me: Are you and your friend having fun tonight?
HBH: Yeah.
Me: Hmm..really? Why did she leave you then?
HBH: She's at the bar getting us drinks *points me to her*
Me: Well I just have to say you look very cute tonight.
HBH: Thanks.
Me: Hey, when your friend comes back why don't you guys turn around and join us?
HBH: Ok.

Her friends come back and is introduced (HBPR), and I introduce FLTB and friend. After that, it went pretty much downhill from there for me because I had nothing else to say but luckily for me, I was with FLTB and he is awesome! He kept the girls talking, interested, and hooked. We ended up hanging out the rest of the night together but sadly I never saw my first approach again that night or when she left (our table was seated closed to the entrance/exit).

What I noticed was, after I started dancing with HBPR, all the girls in the proximity started checking me out! I guess one of the attraction switches for Latinas is dancing.

What I will do better next time
For daygame
-Walk less and stay in one area longer because I realize I walk a lot and I end up getting tired and losing state in the day time.

Nightgame
-PLOW BABY PLOW!

Day 4 Saturday

I was physically tired and exhausted from the previous day plus I woke up early for martial arts so I was physically out of it and this definitely affected my state. I pretty much skipped daygame and even though I was trying, AA bullied me out of it.

Night time rolls by...I ended up solo sarging. As I'm heading to a bar, I drop by one of my friend's restaurant where he bartends to get me in state (cus this guys is fucking awesome and is always high energy so I smooched some off of him as I was still tired from everything).

Back out on the streets I walk past this fucking gorgeous black girl, 9. She looks a little lost so...

Me: Hey, you lost?
HB9: *Turns to me* Uh..yea haha.
Me: Where are you headed?
HB9: XYZ place
Me: Oh! *kino turn while grabbing waist, point across that street* It's right over there! There's two big guys guarding it haha.
HB9: Oh! Thanks :)
Me: By the way, you look absolutely gorgeous tonight!
HB9: Thank you so much :)

We both walked off. This was my only approach tonight as the bar I went to was pretty dead and mostly Asian. I have higher standards in terms of physical attractiveness for Asians and none of these girls were meeting it. Walked around a bit, helped a drunk girl, sat at Union Sq, then headed back home.

What I noticed...
I was with friends earlier but I had to leave them, they were killing my state! Being unproductive and idling around this crappy bar. So I left them.

I am motivated by others lack of productivity!

What I did well and can continue to do
I never went to other bars on my own before but I felt comfortable and even made friends with another dude. The problem is, I didn't have anyone to rely on in terms of winging big sets and that made me hesitant about opening big sets. There was a mixed set with 2HB9s but they were in a huge group and I didn't open...these girls were fucking hot and Latina! I think I'm getting that spanish fever! hahaha.


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 Post subject: Re: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2009, 10:53 
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Night time solo has been fun for me. Cuz the last times I went out I practically had a bottle of wine before I set foot out the door! hahahaha. BIG up for going out sober. :)

Hey, when you go direct, don't ask that many questions in the beginning. You're question training her/interviewing her to death. Not to mention, they're all logical questions. She'll most likely get turned off and you're not going to go anywhere. Instead of asking, "Are you lost?" Tell her, "You look lost." Take it from there. They convey the same message, but do you notice the difference from how they come off and sound? See if that will work better for you.

And when you are winging some guy or you and your friend are chatting up 2 girls, and one of you guys stop talking where only 1 guy is talking to 1 girl. You're both basically blown out unless your friend is so smooth that he can woo his girl into staying and her friend has no choice but to either leave her alone or stand by her doing nothing. So, keep talking. It'll buy time for your wing.

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 Post subject: Re: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2009, 19:01 
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Day 5 Sunday

Didn't find any girls I'm attracted to. I did however walked around lower Manhattan and literally guys that I haven't seen in months/years scream out my name on the street and we shoot the shit. This was back to back and I was like..damn if only I was with a chick right now this is total social proof hahah.

Girls approached direct: 0.

Sundays blow around Tribeca/Battery Park. So I'm not going there anymore haha.

I was gonna do night game in LES but ended up playing basketball at night...in converses, got a huge blister..big no no.

Day 6 Monday

Physically exhausted, might be mental too but I am feeling shit tired even as I'm typing this up, this was all day for me.

Well, I was at South St. Seaport in the afternoon and AA kicked in. Didn't approach any girls at all.

Note to self: FUCKING NEED TO OPEN EVERY GIRL THAT EYEFUCKS ME EVEN IF THEY ARE HIRED GUNS!

Anyway...South St. Seaport is awesome for weekday afternoon game lol...

Then...

Coming home from work I could have went direct on two cute white hipster looking chicks on the subway but was reluctant to because I was tired and I didn't think I could match their energy...

Girls opened with direct: 0

So far this setback has cost me a total of $40...

What I will do tomorrow
-Back to Seaport and open every chick that eyefucks me.
-Stay grounded and stop walking so much because I am wasting a lot of energy.
-Fake high energy until I'm in state.


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 Post subject: Re: edo's direct 30 day challenge
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2009, 23:49 
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Hey Edo,

Stop pressuring yourself into opening direct. It's gonna feel like a huge burden on your shoulders. There's been times where I've been too scared to go out, cuz all I could do was think about sarging. I think ideally, you just want to go out without the notion of sarging and your mind will be so much more at ease and rested. Just be happy you went out. I applaud you for your efforts.

If you're too shy to open direct, try this, "Do you know where Jamba Juice(or whatever) is?" She'll say, "abcdefg." Cut her off midway and say, "Actually I just came here to flirt with you. You're absolutely adorable. I'm X." Or try to work your way up with indirect.

And... I don't believe you should be state dependent. You're not going to be feeling energetic all of the time. You're just going to have to acknowledge it and do it anyways. I think you'll feel much better knowing that you can do it in any circumstance.

Juggernaut

PS OH shit. I just remember this new opener I came up with while sarging Union Square in SF. It's such a huge tourist spot that there will be tons of HB's taking photos. So all I said was, "Hey guys. I see that you're taking photos of NY, but you're missing the best part of the city. ME *big smile on face*" Grab her and take a photo. Afterwards say, "Actually I came over cuz I thought you were REALLY cute." It's guaranteed a laugh when I've done it. I've only done it like 4x though.

Good luck. Keep going strong.


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