Ace's 30 day direct challenge

Ace,

Hey man. I know this is tough for you, but you have to realize that you have done direct approaches before. I want you to stop caring about the outcome and care more about expressing yourself and going for what you want -

You want her to know you think she's hot as hell so you tell her
You want her to know your name so you give it to her
You want to know her name so you ask for it
You want her to know who you are so you express it
You want to know who she is as a person so you find out
You want to be touchy with girls so you touch her

I could be completely wrong, and you could just want to sit in your room in front of your laptop. Maybe you want to think about approaching and how to approach rather than do it. Maybe you don't want girls in your life.

Or.... you can take the next 5 days and pay attention to the girls that cross your path, tell yourself that yes, you want a piece, and when a sexy girl walks by, you tell her that she is sexy as fuck, and not care how she, or anyone hears you, will respond.

Did not necessarily go "direct" today but approached a lot today.
Why?
There was an Earth day Festival and my friend and I went there. Tried a lot of situational openers there i. e how is the food. Talked to at least 10 people. Best set of the event:

Me (noticing an HB who was almost as peacocked as mystery): Hey, I like the way you are dressed. You have all the colors in your outfit.
HB: thank you.
We exchanged names, talked a lot about fashion. I invited her to the event that I am throwing with my student group. I got her facebook and upon ejecting told her to hug me, and she complied. Later on, it turns out she has a boyfriend. So many girls have boyfriends here. ARGH!!!!
Anyways I was pretty talkative today. One of my other friend was running for a student position so I approached whomever I could, promoting him lol. That was fun.
Best set # 2.
See a girl from my previous gym class by the stairs of the library.
Me: hi
Hb: Hey
Me: how is it going.
HB: good
Then I talked about my friend running and told her to vote for him.
HB: kool
then we talked about work
Me: hey, do you still swim? (she was in our swimming class)
HB: no not really it's kinda cold
Me: I know. I have stopped too. But do you want to swim together sometime
HB: yeah sure
ME: let me get your number
HB: sure.
We exchange numbers. SHE tells me to call her so she can save my number.
I will be honest she is probably a 7 at best, but she does have a good body and she also has a room mate who was also in our class (another HB 7). My plan is to not give a fuck and go hardcore direct =).

Also today two girls walked in our room. They are also running for a student position and they were going around promoting themselves. We talked for like 20 minutes. Joking around having fun. One of them was really hot like a 9. She has a boyfriend from my class. It's so funny, we were talking, and at one point I said to them that you guys should get going. But she replies: Why. this is fun lol. Idk if she was doing it to squeeze votes out of us or really meant it but we had a lot of fun.

Also, I amogged some guy today . Felt good. Brought back bootcamp memories. Basically an indian guy I kind of knew was sitting with a HOT blonde. I just went over to her, completely ignored him and started talking to her about voting for my friend. At one point I made her shake my hand and made her promise me that she would vote for my friend. I did not even acknowledge the guy even though I kinda knew him.
Successes:
approached a lot
Had fun
got a number
got a hug
I am getting experience with running conversations.
Things to work on:
going direct
I have a serious mental blockade about approaching on campus. I need to get over that.
Doing things alone. All my approaches were with my friend.

This is an approach that took over 2 days to complete and in the end left me feeling empty.
I will try to be as detailed as possible so maybe others can tell me what I am missing here as in my opinion this should have been a good pick up. I was getting dinner at my dining hall yesterday.

Me: while getting dinner see two girls in the line in front of me. They are laughing. The line is pretty long.
I said to them
Hey, why don't you guys go over to the other line (in a dominant voice). They turned around and COMPLIED. As they are getting on the other line, I said
Me: I am just too lazy to move, otherwise I would get on the other shorter line myself. I was not kidding here. I was really tired from pulling an all nighter the day before.
They start laughing and I tell them
Me: hey I made you guys get off the line. You guys can come back
Target HB:(laughing) no thats ok. Gets on the other line. Turns out they check out faster than me,
all in all a good indirect conversation and I considered it pretty successful since I was half sleepy.

Fast forward to today. I am on the library computer, typing my paper. As luck would have it, the target HB walks in and logs onto the computer next to me. I did not recognize her but she smiles at me (also note that today I was unshaved, was wearing glasses, and was looking really dorky).
Me: hey where have I seen you before
HB: (trying to remember) we were at the dining hall yesterday
ME: O yeah, I remember. I made you guys move to the other line.
We introduce names.
Me: so what do you study?
HB: SOM (school of management)
Me: Kool. I am a double major in history/Economics
HB: O ok.
Me; so where do you live?
HB: Lehman hall.
ME: No way, I live there too. I used to be the hall government President there but I stopped cuz it was too much work.
HB: laughing
Me: I am working on a paper right now.
HB: I don't like to write papers.
Me: then I told her how tired I was and I had just woken up when we first met in the dining hall.
HB: wow, no way... laughing
Then I go back to typing my paper and she starts working on her resume. I had the paper due in less than half an hour so I was working like a maniac. She gets up, prints her stuff, comes back, looks over it for a while and as she is about to leave says:
HB: says something along the lines of "good bye". But what was your name again
Me: At one point I was just gonna say bye and leave it at that but I was like fuck it, I want to get to know her since she lives in my building plus she is cute and I am attracted to her.
so I say
Me: We should keep in touch. Do you have facebook.
HB: (laughing) NO... then says yes. (weird answer).
Me: what's your name. She types it in my computer. Wow we have four friends in common. Then I add her and say, what are you doing later tonight.
Hb: nothing (laughing)
Me: do you have 8 dollars.
HB: yes
Me: well there is a banquet at place XXX sponsored by my student group and it's gonna be good food. You should come along
HB: I forgot her reaction there, but it was something along the lines of smiling
and I added:
I am working on a paper right now and am doing a lot of things, so maybe I am not asking you in the proper way so you can deny if you want (Idk why I said that) but she laughed anyways and said she might come.
So I sent her a facebook invitation with a Personalized invitation. The event was at 7 pm.
Later at night around 6:50 pm, I see her walking with her friends. I did not even recognize her. As we are walking she says Hi to me enthusiastically. I just said hi back. I could not remind her there about the event in front of her friends so I just kept walking.
Long story short she did not show up which kind of made me feel a bit deflated because I don't know what I am missing here. I think I built a good conversation. Made her laugh. She was showing some IOI's (laughing, asking for my name twice). Later on I wrote something funny on her facebook wall and she replied to me in a funny way too. So what possible reason could there be that she did not come. We live in the same building, are so close yet I can't seem to figure out what key ingredient I missed here. In my opinion, where my game is, this is probably the best I can do in terms of ability and if the girl that I am attracted to is not responding (like today) it made me feel a little sad inside. I know these are probably just AFC thoughts but it hurts when someone you are attracted to does not respond to your invitation despite your best effort and worse yet you can't figure out the reason why.
back to the drawing board (sigh)

Great work. I like that you were persistent, and even though you didn't like what you looked like at the time, you didn't let that stop you from moving forward.

She either has no idea that you like or are completely unsure of it. Ask yourself, did you truly express your interest in her to her (either verbally or non-verbally)? You talked quite a bit about surface level conversation, but did you ever find out why she chose to study management? Does she know why you are dual majoring in history and economics? Think about the emotional spikes in your conversation with her, and ask yourself, did you hit a range of them either with your tonality or verbal content of your words (fun, sad, excited, anxious...)?



I know you were time constricted, but your intent here was to get to know her, but what you actually did was get her facebook. There is a disconnect between who you were and what you did.

Remember that pickup skills don't get you every girl, what it actually does is increase your chances and lets you build yourself up to improve you chances with girls in the future. You are definitely getting there.

As far as the technical skills, you already have everything you need, either from your personal experiences or the bootcamp knowledge. It's just a matter of accessing them when you need them.

Good advice Tommy. However, something even MORE confusing happened today which is very similar to my previous experience.
There is a girl I know, met her very recently. She is about average looking. I was at a student event tonight. I see her there. She has two friends. I talked to all of them. They sat in the row behind me. I introduced myself to them. We spoke for quite a bit of time.
In the sort of intermission, we go to get ice cream which was given out. I had a good conversation with them while getting ice cream. The girl that I knew (let's call her girl A)... her two friends Girl B and Girl C (my target). So we start talking about what are their plans tonight. Girl B is going to a house party. I tell them I am not a big fan of house parties after partying in NYC. Girl B says she likes it in both places and says she has been to Webster hall. Anyways I mention a club party that is going to take place tonight. It is different from house parties. Now I tell them about it and how people from other campuses are going to be there as well and transportation will be provided. They ask me about the cover price and I tell them 10 bucks (which is a bit expensive by Binghamton standards). Now here comes the tricky part. I ask them if they want to come. Girl A says yeah ok. Girl B says she has to go to her friend's party and girl C my target also says yeah. Good so far. Then we go back to our conversation and as I am about to leave I ask them :
"So do you guys want to come to the party"
Girl B my target actually smiles and says Yeah.
I am like, ok what time.
They say 12.
I say ok see you guys at the bus stop and say bye and head my way.

Fast forward to 11 50 pm. I go to the bus stop. At 11 58. I see the three of them coming. I was like yes!!!
But they are in a hurry. I even look at them and say "hey guys" but either they did not hear me because they were in a rush (although I did say it pretty loud) or just ignored me. They got on the other bus (the one going to the house party). At this point, I am just wondering wtf is going on here. Are they being polite to me and just don't want to say no to me? This is just driving me nuts. I'd rather be rejected face to face than this way.
How can they say they will come and not do it. Now, girl A that I mentioned (although she is not attractive at all as she even said it herself) but she is VERY social and is always going to events and parties. So for her to do this is beyond me. What about girl B my target who said yes both times and I sensed excitement in her voice as well.
Afterward I could not go to the party AT ALL ALONE.Not only did this affect me, but everyone was in groups at the bus stop and I was the only one by myself. I know, I am supposed to hold my cool but when you are alone and got everyone staring at you, I cracked.

did not plan on doing this at all
see a tall girl in my dining hall...almost my height.
she lives in my building
i have said hi to her before
she was standing right next to me and waving hi at her friends, i turned to her and said:
Me: Well, hello
HB: smiling hi
talked a bit about how everything is going then out of the blue i told her that she looked nice today, she smiled and said thanks.

A girl that I cold approached earlier and flaked on my invitation (a couple of days ago) was walking past me today.
Sees me
HB: hey .. smiling
Me: hi.
HB: what are you up to
Me:trying to get dinner at place X but it's to crowded. But I am headed to place Y
HB: I just came from place Y but it's really crowded there too. I am headed to place X.
Me: Well, I am going to place Y. (the place where she actually came from). I look at her for a second and said "Let's go"
Hb: smiling...ok


So we go there and have dinner there. The food sucked so it gave me a lot of things to talk about. At one point, she left to go somewhere else (later on it turns out it was just to get a fork).... so while she is gone I am texting martyr... saying hey bro i am actually having dinner with one of the girls I cold approached earlier. His response message was pretty funny and as I am reading that (he basically said Desert wine on your bed afterwards to me lol) and as I am laughing, she walks in.
The dinner went pretty well. I felt nervous at times, even kinoing her. I think I joked around a lot (maybe a bit too much). Even called her a loser at which she was laughing hysterically. I think I went into C phase too. Asked her some comforting questions such as why do you study X what do you like about here blah blah blah.

She lives in the same building as me but she says she spends most of her time online chatting with friends all over the world. I told her that I was actually preparing for a global peace festival tomorrow and will be busy setting up for that. Given the fact that she flaked on me before, I half-heatedly invited her when departing.

All in all it was a good dinner. I could have gone into phase D but I was a bit nervous. I also need to stop making joke after joke in order to keep the convo going. I think I have to learn how to create attraction not just being clownish. The last time I saw her I was making very surface level convo with her but today I went deeper and created comfort. I need to go direct next time.

Have not gone direct in a long time so i went direct today.
Sitting in the cafe, a four sat walked in. 2 white HBS and 2 black HBs'
I went up to them. Picked one of them and
Me: hey you look adorable today
HB: what
Me: (voice projection) : you look adorable today
HB: thank you
Me: did you guys go out? cuz it's raining very hard and I did not think that many people would go out.
Black Hb : o no it was a semi-formal.
Me: o ok.


Then later on, my friend who was with me also approached a 3 set. It was one of his very first times opening so I gave him the who lies more opener to use. He did pretty well actually. I watched him from across the room and the girls were actually smiling. Mad props for trying. He came back and told me that he even kinoed the girl in the middle. Bonus points.


As he came back, there is an HB 9 that walks in. She is dressed up and is all by herself. Crap... I wanted to approach her but what the fuck is the problem with me approaching girls that I actually like and/or expressing direct interest in them. So, after some motivation from my friend, I approached her. She was on line checking out a drink.
Me: hey did you go out today? Were there a lot of people (again mad rain so it gave me an excuse to be curious)
Hb: No. I did not go out today. Walking away
Me: o ok cuz you are dressed up.
HB: said something i could not hear and walked away.
Approaching a HB 9 = priceless !!!!

Wen to a house party tonight. It was a friend of M that was holding the party. The gathering was really small. M was very drunk by the time and had to be taken to his room. We actually were on the bus stop when I girl I knew and her friend were also going to the same place. So we took the same cab.

The setting was really small.
Some observations that I made tonight included:
1) Social circle social circle social circle. Everything revolves around that in college parties.
A lot of people were asking us so who do you know here? How are you in this party? Good thing we actually did know someone.
2). Shit load of naturals all over.... but I got to observe their behavior. Looks like AMOGing is absolutely crucial. Any girl that is remotely even attractive is surrounded by them.
3). I got a lot to do to catch up to these naturals.... seeing them tonight made me realize that I have got a LONG way to go. I wish I had gone out every weekend and practiced more.
4). gotta work on beer pong skills.
5). I can't approach girls that are hot. This is becoming a reoccurring theme now and must resolve it.
6) the girl that I took the cab was an HB 7 and I think we had fun.I talked a lot with her and bantered/ran some comfort material. Played thumb wrestling, talked about school. But I think, I was a bit needy. Like I'd try to follow her sometimes. And she sat next to me on the same couch but had her back turned towards me. Even when I was talking she did not face me and was a bit cold which kinda affected my state even though it shouldn't.
Best set of the night was when there was an Indian girl that I approached. We only made small talk but I hugged her and also made her sit with me. We talked for a good 5 minutes before she had to leave.
Afterwords we tried going to the bars but my friend was underage so we could not get in. But, outside bars there were a lot of people. My friend and I went direct on two different sets. The girl that I went direct on was actually very nice and even said that she knew the owner and tried getting us in but did not work out but she tried her best.

Ace,

I want to read more FRs where you're enjoying the interaction and demonstrating who Ace is. Be conscious of eye contact, tonality, body language and explode AWESOMENESS. Try talking about activities/stories that interest YOU. Ultimately though, I also want to read you moving the interaction forward (#s, makeouts, getting laid, etc).

Quick tidbit on approaching hot girls- Stop referring to girls as HB(#). Try assigning characteristics to the girl, and mention what you liked about her based on the interaction. This way, you're establishing standards for yourself and not seeing girls as merely objects according to hotness.

You ARE progressing. Realize this, and remember why you dropped money on a BC- Not to just talk to girls, but to have them in your life. Give yourself permission to grab glory by the throat and never let go.